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Who wins the AL-2 GOP Runoff on July 17th?

Rep. Martha Roby
16
42%
Bobby Bright
22
58%
 
Total votes : 38

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Valgora
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Postby Valgora » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:40 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Valgora wrote:Yea, I know only one person sometimes runs.
Sometimes, only one person runs in an entire race.
I've literally seen some Republicans from AR run unopposed.

However, that shouldn't be an excuse to pick better candidates.
In fact, if someone runs unopposed in a primary and I don't like them, that's even more of a reason for me to not vote for them.


Why aren't you running then?


Because I'm in college.
Because I'm not interested in being in political office.
Also, I wouldn't run as a Democrat anyways.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:40 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
San Lumen wrote:And hes started a trade war that will only cause more hurt for them.


It's actually going quite well for us.


Perhaps according to Fox News.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:41 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
It's actually going quite well for us.


Perhaps according to Fox News.


According to the actual evidence. Hit up OEP, he's staying on top of the news on the trade war.
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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:41 pm

Valgora wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Why aren't you running then?


Because I'm in college.
Because I'm not interested in being in political office.
Also, I wouldn't run as a Democrat anyways.

Then dont complain about who runs and who the populous choses in a free and fair election something many Republicans see as an annoyance

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Postby Freezic Vast » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:42 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Valgora wrote:
Because I'm in college.
Because I'm not interested in being in political office.
Also, I wouldn't run as a Democrat anyways.

Then dont complain about who runs and who the populous choses in a free and fair election something many Republicans see as an annoyance

You are so fucking stubborn and ignorant.
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Fahran
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Postby Fahran » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:42 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:Take offense at assuming such motivations apply to the general populace; it takes away from my edge here.

I was simply stating that prejudice might not be the best response to an electoral defeat, at least not if you planning on gaining future electoral success by the widest possible margins. It reflects poorly on one's character as well general. Magnanimity is a virtue, one we've sorely neglected of late.

Freezic Vast wrote:You are so fucking stubborn and ignorant.

We should probably relax and not edge so close to flaming one another. Civility does have its merits, you know?
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Postby Oil exporting People » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:43 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Perhaps according to Fox News.


According to the actual evidence. Hit up OEP, he's staying on top of the news on the trade war.


Much appreciated, and aye.
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Postby Valgora » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:43 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Valgora wrote:
Because I'm in college.
Because I'm not interested in being in political office.
Also, I wouldn't run as a Democrat anyways.

Then dont complain about who runs and who the populous choses in a free and fair election something many Republicans see as an annoyance

Again, I can complain if I want to.
I don't have to fuckin' run for political officer and I don't have to vote for a Democrat that I don't like in order for me to complain.
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Oil exporting People
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Postby Oil exporting People » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:44 pm

Fahran wrote:
Oil exporting People wrote:Take offense at assuming such motivations apply to the general populace; it takes away from my edge here.

I was simply stating that prejudice might not be the best response to an electoral defeat, at least not if you planning on gaining future electoral success by the widest possible margins. It reflects poorly on one's character as well general. Magnanimity is a virtue, one we've sorely neglected of late.


I was making a joke at my expense.
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Postby Fahran » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:47 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:I was making a joke at my expense.

My funny bone is still out of commission due to my illness. I did have a sensible giggle after re-reading it.
"Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."

- Song of the Fallen Star

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Sovaal
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Postby Sovaal » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:48 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Valgora wrote:
Because I'm in college.
Because I'm not interested in being in political office.
Also, I wouldn't run as a Democrat anyways.

Then dont complain about who runs and who the populous choses in a free and fair election something many Republicans see as an annoyance

Free country Lumen, we can complain as much as we want. We can not vote if we want. And I sure as hell can not vote for either the dems or the gop if I want.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

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Postby Telconi » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:48 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Valgora wrote:
Because I'm in college.
Because I'm not interested in being in political office.
Also, I wouldn't run as a Democrat anyways.

Then dont complain about who runs and who the populous choses in a free and fair election something many Republicans see as an annoyance


I complain about the outcome of elections I didn't vote in. Lucky for me, your prejudices aren't law.
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Fahran
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Postby Fahran » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:50 pm

Sovaal wrote:Free country Lumen, we can complain as much as we want. We can not vote if we want. And I sure as hell can not vote for either the dems or the gop if I want.

There's nothing wrong with voting Libertarian. However, supporting Jon Snow is unforgivable. He knows nothing.
"Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."

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Postby Page » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:52 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Page wrote:
She is guaranteed to win the general election for that seat.

I keep hearing things like "They won't elect Democratic socialists in the midwest, only a moderate (corporate) Democrat can win". But my question is, if "moderate" Democrats are so viable in the midwest, why didn't Hillary Clinton take Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, and Iowa?

People voting out of anger, racism and sexism.


There are lots of racists and sexists out there, and there is no winning them over, the key to winning seats and states is winning the votes of people who want better lives. Between the ideologues and party loyalists on each side of the aisle is a small group of people - the people who want better lives and vote based on that, not ideology - and winning that group means winning the whole thing. Trump promised people better lives (an empty promise, but a convincing one) while Hillary Clinton campaigned on "isn't the status quo great?"

Progressive policies are extraordinarily popular when they are framed in the right way. If I pitch single-payer health care by saying "You're going to pay more taxes so we can have socialized medicine", that's not going to work. But if I pitch single-payer health care by saying "You are already paying for Medicare - now, you get to benefit from it before you're a senior citizen. Right now, if you have 'good insurance', and need a $25,000 surgery, you'll be on the hook for a $2500 copay. But with a Medicare for all system, there won't be a copay, that's money in your pocket!", it will sell.

People who want better lives. These are the ones who will vote for progressives when progressives who relate to the people explain the policies will and when that candidate grew up in the same neighborhood and worked the same jobs as they did.
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Postby The Lone Alliance » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:55 pm

Fahran wrote:
San Lumen wrote:People voting out of anger, racism and sexism.

Your lack of clarity regarding political realities and overt disdain for your fellow citizens is quite alarming, and probably not conducive to successful outreach efforts. Perhaps begin by not assuming that people who voted for Trump are racist or sexist?

Don't you know calling someone racist and sexist will magically make them agree with you and beg for your forgiveness in return for voting however you want them to vote? I mean the fact that it hasn't been working simply means reality hasn't caught up yet.

Calling people's names always works to get them to side with you.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:52 pm

The Lone Alliance wrote:Don't you know calling someone racist and sexist will magically make them agree with you and beg for your forgiveness in return for voting however you want them to vote? I mean the fact that it hasn't been working simply means reality hasn't caught up yet.

Calling people's names always works to get them to side with you.

Or maybe racists and sexists deserve to be called out and isolated from society and recent events have only reinforced why that's so important.
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Postby The Lone Alliance » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:01 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The Lone Alliance wrote:Don't you know calling someone racist and sexist will magically make them agree with you and beg for your forgiveness in return for voting however you want them to vote? I mean the fact that it hasn't been working simply means reality hasn't caught up yet.

Calling people's names always works to get them to side with you.

Or maybe racists and sexists deserve to be called out and isolated from society and recent events have only reinforced why that's so important.

Except under this current viewpoint nearly 50% of the voting population of the country is "racist and sexist" now if we use the "Everyone who voted for Trump = Racist and sexist" defintion.

So by this point those "racists and sexists" are such a large part of society that they don't need the acceptance of the people insulting them, their numbers are large enough to form their own society that doesn't need the approval of people who call them names... therefore they cannot be isolated any longer.

That's kind of what happening now, there's two parallel societies developing.
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:04 pm

The Lone Alliance wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:Or maybe racists and sexists deserve to be called out and isolated from society and recent events have only reinforced why that's so important.

Except under this current viewpoint nearly 50% of the voting population of the country is "racist and sexist" now if we use the "Everyone who voted for Trump = Racist and sexist" defintion.

So by this point those "racists and sexists" are such a large part of society that they don't need the acceptance of the people insulting them, their numbers are large enough to form their own society that doesn't need the approval of people who call them names... therefore they cannot be isolated any longer.

So you're doing absolutely nothing to actually hurt them. Just make them hate you even more. Yeah that's going to make them stop being "Racist and sexist".

And you base 50% on what exactly?
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Postby Fahran » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:05 pm

Genivaria wrote:And you base 50% on what exactly?

It's less than that honestly.

Of course, not everyone who voted for Trump is racist or sexist. We have no data to corroborate that.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:08 pm

The Lone Alliance wrote:Except under this current viewpoint nearly 50% of the voting population of the country is "racist and sexist" now if we use the "Everyone who voted for Trump = Racist and sexist" defintion.

46% of 55% turnout.

Now, my math isn't so good, but that sounds more like the 25% in every reliable poll that backs every word Trump says than 50%.
So by this point those "racists and sexists" are such a large part of society that they don't need the acceptance of the people insulting them, their numbers are large enough to form their own society that doesn't need the approval of people who call them names... therefore they cannot be isolated any longer.

That's kind of what happening now, there's two parallel societies developing.

Good. Let the fucks rot together.
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Postby Telconi » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:08 pm

Page wrote:
San Lumen wrote:People voting out of anger, racism and sexism.


There are lots of racists and sexists out there, and there is no winning them over, the key to winning seats and states is winning the votes of people who want better lives. Between the ideologues and party loyalists on each side of the aisle is a small group of people - the people who want better lives and vote based on that, not ideology - and winning that group means winning the whole thing. Trump promised people better lives (an empty promise, but a convincing one) while Hillary Clinton campaigned on "isn't the status quo great?"

Progressive policies are extraordinarily popular when they are framed in the right way. If I pitch single-payer health care by saying "You're going to pay more taxes so we can have socialized medicine", that's not going to work. But if I pitch single-payer health care by saying "You are already paying for Medicare - now, you get to benefit from it before you're a senior citizen. Right now, if you have 'good insurance', and need a $25,000 surgery, you'll be on the hook for a $2500 copay. But with a Medicare for all system, there won't be a copay, that's money in your pocket!", it will sell.

People who want better lives. These are the ones who will vote for progressives when progressives who relate to the people explain the policies will and when that candidate grew up in the same neighborhood and worked the same jobs as they did.


What Constitutes "better lives" for some is the opposite for others.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:09 pm

Fahran wrote:
Genivaria wrote:And you base 50% on what exactly?

It's less than that honestly.

Of course, not everyone who voted for Trump is racist or sexist. We have no data to corroborate that.

No, but it's a non-negligible demographic of 'very fine people'.
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:10 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The Lone Alliance wrote:Except under this current viewpoint nearly 50% of the voting population of the country is "racist and sexist" now if we use the "Everyone who voted for Trump = Racist and sexist" defintion.

46% of 55% turnout.

Now, my math isn't so good, but that sounds more like the 25% in every reliable poll that backs every word Trump says than 50%.
So by this point those "racists and sexists" are such a large part of society that they don't need the acceptance of the people insulting them, their numbers are large enough to form their own society that doesn't need the approval of people who call them names... therefore they cannot be isolated any longer.

That's kind of what happening now, there's two parallel societies developing.

Good. Let the fucks rot together.

2016 Trump voters and 2018 Trump supporters aren't the same thing.
Also, saying "half the country voted for him therefore you're calling half the country racist/sexist" is wrong.
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Postby Telconi » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:10 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The Lone Alliance wrote:Except under this current viewpoint nearly 50% of the voting population of the country is "racist and sexist" now if we use the "Everyone who voted for Trump = Racist and sexist" defintion.

46% of 55% turnout.

Now, my math isn't so good, but that sounds more like the 25% in every reliable poll that backs every word Trump says than 50%.
So by this point those "racists and sexists" are such a large part of society that they don't need the acceptance of the people insulting them, their numbers are large enough to form their own society that doesn't need the approval of people who call them names... therefore they cannot be isolated any longer.

That's kind of what happening now, there's two parallel societies developing.

Good. Let the fucks rot together.


46% is nearly 50% in most people's books.
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ANTI:
-Racism
-Sexism
-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

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Postby Sovaal » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:12 pm

Fahran wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Free country Lumen, we can complain as much as we want. We can not vote if we want. And I sure as hell can not vote for either the dems or the gop if I want.

There's nothing wrong with voting Libertarian. However, supporting Jon Snow is unforgivable. He knows nothing.

He’s the true heir to the iron throne, L+R=J fans unite!

Also being one of like three characters who aren’t total douches is nice.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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