US Midterm Election 2018 Megathread- It's Kavanaugh

[Washington Resistance Army]

If the red state Dems don't vote for Kavanaugh I can't see them winning in November.

[Telconi]

If the red state Dems don't vote for Kavanaugh I can't see them winning in November.

I think SCOTUS is gonna be as big of an issue now as it was in '16. Maybe more so.

[Corrian]

https://www.axios.com/poll-democrats-2018-midterms-senate-5eb4075f-4325-46aa-bda5-699b814d9dd7.html

A poll update right there that I refuse to type out

Yikes, that Florida one.

Also I remember when Tennessee was a possible pickup

[Oldenfranck]

If the red state Dems don't vote for Kavanaugh I can't see them winning in November.

I think most of them besides McCaskill will.

[Oldenfranck]

https://www.axios.com/poll-democrats-2018-midterms-senate-5eb4075f-4325-46aa-bda5-699b814d9dd7.html

A poll update right there that I refuse to type out

Yikes, that Florida one.

Also I remember when Tennessee was a possible pickup

While Republicans are favored in TN and could carry FL, I hope you know that SurveyMonkey is a junk pollster.

[Washington Resistance Army]

On the topic of Florida I have a real feeling that the GOP is going to take the seat. I don't see the Dems willing to blow so much money on that one seat.

[Oldenfranck]

On the topic of Florida I have a real feeling that the GOP is going to take the seat. I don't see the Dems willing to blow so much money on that one seat.

Dems will be outspent in FL for sure, but Nelson has some money, and the national dems have pledged in excess of 20 million dollars to help Nelson. I have heard rumors of that, but I have also people say that if Nelson can't pull ahead again by labor day, the dems will give him a goodluck and goodbye wave and leave him to fend for himself.

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Me: I refuse to vote for right-wing Democrats like Manchin and Heitkamp.

Establishment Dems: You have to vote Dem no matter what! You always have to vote for the Democrat even if it's Joe Manchin.

Me: Why?

Establishment Dems: Because if you don't vote for the Democrats then Trump will get his agenda done, like putting another conservative on the Supreme Court!

Me: *Watches corporate Dems vote to confirm Trump's nominee, smirks with satisfaction*


In my humble opinion, the 2018 midterms are unwinnable for the Democrats. Oh, sure, they may not literally be unwinnable, I can see a small chance of the Dems ending up with a 51 - 49 majority. But then a handful of those Senate Democrats will still rubber stamp most of what Trump wants, making the situation little different than if Republicans keep their majority.

Personally, I'm hoping every right-wing Dem loses their seat to a Republican, maybe then the party will finally learn their lesson.

[Corrian]

And above we still have a petty voter.

[Telconi]

Me: I refuse to vote for right-wing Democrats like Manchin and Heitkamp.

Establishment Dems: You have to vote Dem no matter what! You always have to vote for the Democrat even if it's Joe Manchin.

Me: Why?

Establishment Dems: Because if you don't vote for the Democrats then Trump will get his agenda done, like putting another conservative on the Supreme Court!

Me: *Watches corporate Dems vote to confirm Trump's nominee, smirks with satisfaction*


In my humble opinion, the 2018 midterms are unwinnable for the Democrats. Oh, sure, they may not literally be unwinnable, I can see a small chance of the Dems ending up with a 51 - 49 majority. But then a handful of those Senate Democrats will still rubber stamp most of what Trump wants, making the situation little different than if Republicans keep their majority.

Personally, I'm hoping every right-wing Dem loses their seat to a Republican, maybe then the party will finally learn their lesson.

I also hope they learn this lesson, losing seats to purity tests is a stellar idea.

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And above we still have a petty voter.

I vote for candidates whose policy positions match mine.

[San Lumen]

And above we still have a petty voter.

I vote for candidates whose policy positions match mine.

So if in your district the or state the Republican candidate was a literal Nazi or Neo Confederate like in Illinois 3rd or Virginia you'd sit out the election because the Democrat isn't liberal enough for you? This is why democrats lose elections. Republicans fall in line like sheep whereas Democrats don't unify and wont vote if their candidate doesnt win the primary or isn't far enough to the left for the,.

[Fahran]

I vote for candidates whose policy positions match mine.

That's fair enough. However, planning a purity test as a national political party when a bit of flexibility would help you to pick up seats and thus better implement your agenda probably isn't the most prudent strategy.

Republicans fall in line like sheep...

Given elections in the past couple decades, I'd argue that they fall in line like wolves going to the feast.

Then again, the snark on that is a bit much for my tastes.

[Aeken]

Me: I refuse to vote for right-wing Democrats like Manchin and Heitkamp.

Establishment Dems: You have to vote Dem no matter what! You always have to vote for the Democrat even if it's Joe Manchin.

Me: Why?

Establishment Dems: Because if you don't vote for the Democrats then Trump will get his agenda done, like putting another conservative on the Supreme Court!

Me: *Watches corporate Dems vote to confirm Trump's nominee, smirks with satisfaction*


In my humble opinion, the 2018 midterms are unwinnable for the Democrats. Oh, sure, they may not literally be unwinnable, I can see a small chance of the Dems ending up with a 51 - 49 majority. But then a handful of those Senate Democrats will still rubber stamp most of what Trump wants, making the situation little different than if Republicans keep their majority.

Personally, I'm hoping every right-wing Dem loses their seat to a Republican, maybe then the party will finally learn their lesson.

I also hope they learn this lesson, losing seats to purity tests is a stellar idea.

Oh please. As if political polarization doesn't already do that.

https://www.realclearscience.com/journa ... 09196.html

Both parties want consistent votes. You're not going to get that if you have a moderate.

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I also hope they learn this lesson, losing seats to purity tests is a stellar idea.

I dislike the term purity test. It implies being so rigid that you wouldn't vote for a candidate with one bad policy position and 99 good policy positions. When in reality, this term is thrown around by people criticizing those of us who won't vote for candidates who are nearly indistinguishable from the opposite political party.

[Telconi]

And above we still have a petty voter.

I vote for candidates whose policy positions match mine.

Exclusively?

[Valgora]

I vote for candidates whose policy positions match mine.

So if in your district the or state the Republican candidate was a literal Nazi or Neo Confederate like in Illinois 3rd or Virginia you'd sit out the election because the Democrat isn't liberal enough for you? This is why democrats lose elections. Republicans fall in line like sheep whereas Democrats don't unify and wont vote if their candidate doesnt win the primary or isn't far enough to the left for the,.

If there was a literal Nazi that was the Republican candidate, and if I don't like the Democrat, I'm going to vote third-party or I'm not going to vote.
I refuse to vote for candidates that I don't like.

[San Lumen]

I also hope they learn this lesson, losing seats to purity tests is a stellar idea.

I dislike the term purity test. It implies being so rigid that you wouldn't vote for a candidate with one bad policy position and 99 good policy positions. When in reality, this term is thrown around by people criticizing those of us who won't vote for candidates who are nearly indistinguishable from the opposite political party.

So you'd risk letting a literal Nazi or Neo Confederate win because the Democrat isn't liberal enough? You'd throw away a senate seat in West Virginia nominating someone like Alexandra Ocasio Cortez or Bernie Sanders for purity reasons? Dont cry to me when those people lose because someone like her would not win in West Virginia or North Dakota. I guarantee it

[San Lumen]

So if in your district the or state the Republican candidate was a literal Nazi or Neo Confederate like in Illinois 3rd or Virginia you'd sit out the election because the Democrat isn't liberal enough for you? This is why democrats lose elections. Republicans fall in line like sheep whereas Democrats don't unify and wont vote if their candidate doesnt win the primary or isn't far enough to the left for the,.

If there was a literal Nazi that was the Republican candidate, and if I don't like the Democrat, I'm going to vote third-party or I'm not going to vote.
I refuse to vote for candidates that I don't like.

And voting third party is how people like that win

[Valgora]

If there was a literal Nazi that was the Republican candidate, and if I don't like the Democrat, I'm going to vote third-party or I'm not going to vote.
I refuse to vote for candidates that I don't like.

And voting third party is how people like that win

Again, I refuse to vote for candidates that I don't like.
I'm not going to be a sheep for the Democrats. They've proven to me that they're shit just like the Republicans are.

[San Lumen]

And voting third party is how people like that win

Again, I refuse to vote for candidates that I don't like.
I'm not going to be a sheep for the Democrats. They've proven to me that they're shit just like the Republicans are.

Ok then dont cry or complain when a white supremacist/neo nazi or Neo Confederate gets elected.

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I vote for candidates whose policy positions match mine.

So if in your district the or state the Republican candidate was a literal Nazi or Neo Confederate like in Illinois 3rd or Virginia you'd sit out the election because the Democrat isn't liberal enough for you? This is why democrats lose elections. Republicans fall in line like sheep whereas Democrats don't unify and wont vote if their candidate doesnt win the primary or isn't far enough to the left for the,.

Depends on the circumstances. I did vote for Hillary Clinton, super bitterly and resentfully but I did. I'll vote for Nelson to keep his seat even though I'm positively disgusted with the fact that he voted to confirm a vile war criminal as CIA head, but I draw my lines when necessary.

Yes, Republicans do fall in line and I don't think general elections are the best place to get rid of Republicans with a D next to their name, primaries are. I want to see the Democratic Party taken over by real progressives like Alexandria-Ocasio Cortez, Bernie Sanders, and Tulsi Gabbard, just like the Tea Party seized control of the Republican Party (with resounding success, the GOP won a huge majority in 2010).

[Freezic Vast]

I vote for candidates whose policy positions match mine.

So if in your district the or state the Republican candidate was a literal Nazi or Neo Confederate like in Illinois 3rd or Virginia you'd sit out the election because the Democrat isn't liberal enough for you? This is why democrats lose elections. Republicans fall in line like sheep whereas Democrats don't unify and wont vote if their candidate doesnt win the primary or isn't far enough to the left for the,.

This is so false, I could spend 10 hours pointing out everything wrong with it, but I'm not gonna wast that much time.

I dislike the term purity test. It implies being so rigid that you wouldn't vote for a candidate with one bad policy position and 99 good policy positions. When in reality, this term is thrown around by people criticizing those of us who won't vote for candidates who are nearly indistinguishable from the opposite political party.

So you'd risk letting a literal Nazi or Neo Confederate win because the Democrat isn't liberal enough? You'd throw away a senate seat in West Virginia nominating someone like Alexandra Ocasio Cortez or Bernie Sanders for purity reasons? Dont cry to me when those people lose because someone like her would not win in West Virginia or North Dakota. I guarantee it

So then stop complaining the person you voted for lost then, none of us want to hear it.

[Valgora]

Again, I refuse to vote for candidates that I don't like.
I'm not going to be a sheep for the Democrats. They've proven to me that they're shit just like the Republicans are.

Ok then dont cry or complain when a white supremacist/neo nazi or Neo Confederate gets elected.

I can fuckin' complain if I want to.

[San Lumen]

So if in your district the or state the Republican candidate was a literal Nazi or Neo Confederate like in Illinois 3rd or Virginia you'd sit out the election because the Democrat isn't liberal enough for you? This is why democrats lose elections. Republicans fall in line like sheep whereas Democrats don't unify and wont vote if their candidate doesnt win the primary or isn't far enough to the left for the,.

Depends on the circumstances. I did vote for Hillary Clinton, super bitterly and resentfully but I did. I'll vote for Nelson to keep his seat even though I'm positively disgusted with the fact that he voted to confirm a vile war criminal as CIA head, but I draw my lines when necessary.

Yes, Republicans do fall in line and I don't think general elections are the best place to get rid of Republicans with a D next to their name, primaries are. I want to see the Democratic Party taken over by real progressives like Alexandria-Ocasio Cortez, Bernie Sanders, and Tulsi Gabbard, just like the Tea Party seized control of the Republican Party (with resounding success, the GOP won a huge majority in 2010).

In some areas of the country people like that are not going to win. I guarantee it.