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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:16 pm

Gotta admit the SCOTUS news has pleased me greatly, I'd probably be voting GOP for the Senate if I didn't live in such a safely blue state.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:30 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Gotta admit the SCOTUS news has pleased me greatly, I'd probably be voting GOP for the Senate if I didn't live in such a safely blue state.


Gee I am surprised. Anybody who supports guns eh?

As mentioned won't vote for any republican this time.

Even wrote my reps and a few others to oppose any candidates till after November. After all it was the Republicans who said we need to wait for the will of the people.....
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:32 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Gotta admit the SCOTUS news has pleased me greatly, I'd probably be voting GOP for the Senate if I didn't live in such a safely blue state.


Gee I am surprised. Anybody who supports guns eh?

As mentioned won't vote for any republican this time.

Even wrote my reps and a few others to oppose any candidates till after November. After all it was the Republicans who said we need to wait for the will of the people.....


He's about everything I want from a Justice tbh. His support of the 4th Amendment isn't great but both sides have been gutting the 4A for at least a decade so there's not a ton you can hope for on that.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:32 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Gotta admit the SCOTUS news has pleased me greatly, I'd probably be voting GOP for the Senate if I didn't live in such a safely blue state.


Gee I am surprised. Anybody who supports guns eh?

As mentioned won't vote for any republican this time.

Even wrote my reps and a few others to oppose any candidates till after November. After all it was the Republicans who said we need to wait for the will of the people.....

Nuclear option, baby!
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:33 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Gee I am surprised. Anybody who supports guns eh?

As mentioned won't vote for any republican this time.

Even wrote my reps and a few others to oppose any candidates till after November. After all it was the Republicans who said we need to wait for the will of the people.....

Nuclear option, baby!


I am already expecting it considering the fucking liar said he wouldn't use it so easily the next time.
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* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:58 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Nuclear option, baby!


I am already expecting it considering the fucking liar said he wouldn't use it so easily the next time.

Steamrolling now, yes sir! Can't wait for Kavanaugh. Once he's in, no man alive or dead commands him, he answers to the Lord.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:59 pm

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The Black Forrest wrote:
I am already expecting it considering the fucking liar said he wouldn't use it so easily the next time.

Steamrolling now, yes sir! Can't wait for Kavanaugh. Once he's in, no man alive or dead commands him, he answers to the Lord.


What are you going on about?
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
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* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:01 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Steamrolling now, yes sir! Can't wait for Kavanaugh. Once he's in, no man alive or dead commands him, he answers to the Lord.


What are you going on about?

Our judge. I'm psyched.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:04 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
What are you going on about?

Our judge. I'm psyched.


*shrugs* the process of ideologues will continue. RBG's replacement may be more liberal then her. After all she was a liberal and the seat must be filled by a liberal. What's that Mitch? You told a lie again?
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Corrian » Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:05 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Gotta admit the SCOTUS news has pleased me greatly, I'd probably be voting GOP for the Senate if I didn't live in such a safely blue state.

He seems better than I expected from what I've heard. I was expecting a god awful pick.

I mean, I doubt I approve of him, but hey.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:06 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Our judge. I'm psyched.


*shrugs* the process of ideologues will continue. RBG's replacement may be more liberal then her. After all she was a liberal and the seat must be filled by a liberal. What's that Mitch? You told a lie again?

Progress stood still the day Trump beat Clinton. We are now in reactionary gear.
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Postby Corrian » Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:07 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Nuclear option, baby!


I am already expecting it considering the fucking liar said he wouldn't use it so easily the next time.

Oh, we should flaunt him saying that everywhere we can. Because I definitely remember him saying that.

The Parkus Empire wrote:Steamrolling now, yes sir! Can't wait for Kavanaugh. Once he's in, no man alive or dead commands him, he answers to the Lord.

Okay, now I'm worried.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:10 pm

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The Black Forrest wrote:
*shrugs* the process of ideologues will continue. RBG's replacement may be more liberal then her. After all she was a liberal and the seat must be filled by a liberal. What's that Mitch? You told a lie again?

Progress stood still the day Trump beat Clinton. We are now in reactionary gear.


It's been building that way since Nixon-Warren.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/ ... 180962614/
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol » Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:41 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
I am already expecting it considering the fucking liar said he wouldn't use it so easily the next time.

Steamrolling now, yes sir! Can't wait for Kavanaugh. Once he's in, no man alive or dead commands him, he answers to the Lord.

The Bible is not our Constitution, Parkus.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:42 pm

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The Black Forrest wrote:
I am already expecting it considering the fucking liar said he wouldn't use it so easily the next time.

Steamrolling now, yes sir! Can't wait for Kavanaugh. Once he's in, no man alive or dead commands him, he answers to the Lord.


The Bible is not the basis for the law. The constitution is.

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:46 pm

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The Parkus Empire wrote:Steamrolling now, yes sir! Can't wait for Kavanaugh. Once he's in, no man alive or dead commands him, he answers to the Lord.

The Bible is not our Constitution, Parkus.

However

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
-John Adams
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:48 pm

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Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol wrote:The Bible is not our Constitution, Parkus.

However

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
-John Adams


The definition of what was considered moral then is not the same now. As much as I admire John Adams he would not have considered someone whose LGBT to be equal to him. That being said to take todays standards and apply them to people of the past is not fair.

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Postby Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol » Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:48 pm

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Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol wrote:The Bible is not our Constitution, Parkus.

However

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
-John Adams


“The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.”
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:49 pm

San Lumen wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Steamrolling now, yes sir! Can't wait for Kavanaugh. Once he's in, no man alive or dead commands him, he answers to the Lord.


The Bible is not the basis for the law. The constitution is.

Neither is "progress" the basis of the law, and any judge who repurposes the Constitution to support his idea of it is no better than one who repurposes it to suit the Bible. Repurposing the Constitution must stop
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:51 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
The Bible is not the basis for the law. The constitution is.

Neither is "progress" the basis of the law, and any judge who repurposes the Constitution to support his idea of it is no better than one who repurposes it to suit the Bible. Repurposing the Constitution must stop


And How was the 14th amendment repurposed to give LGBT people equal rights for example? I should have just accepted I would never be equal under the law in some states and never be able to be recognized as a family if I adopted children or had a surrogate mother.

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:52 pm

Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:However

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
-John Adams


“The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.”
—John Adams

These are both true. The (Federal) government was founded as a secular one. But presuming it was over a religious people. As multiple Founding Fathers have said. And, as Adams said, it is not adequate for a nonreligious people.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:54 pm

San Lumen wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Neither is "progress" the basis of the law, and any judge who repurposes the Constitution to support his idea of it is no better than one who repurposes it to suit the Bible. Repurposing the Constitution must stop


And How was the 14th amendment repurposed to give LGBT people equal rights for example? I should have just accepted I would never be equal under the law in some states and never be able to be recognized as a family if I adopted children or had a surrogate mother.

Your stays as legal guardian is Federal. If you want to force all states to recognize same-sex marriage or polygamy, amend the Constitution, don't repurpose it.
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Postby Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol » Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:55 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol wrote:
“The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.”
—John Adams

These are both true. The (Federal) government was founded as a secular one. But presuming it was over a religious people. As multiple Founding Fathers have said. And, as Adams said, it is not adequate for a nonreligious people.


I’m a deist and a Libertarian, not a secular progressive, Parkus. You’re going to have to stop using the same talking points you use for secular progressives. I share the same religious opinions as Thomas Paine, Ben Franklin and Thomas Jefferson....
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:56 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol wrote:The Bible is not our Constitution, Parkus.

However

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
-John Adams

If it was “made only for a moral and religion people” then they should’ve included more of that religion and morality stuff outside of the Establishment/Free Exercise Clause and the No Religious Test Clause when drafting the constitution.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:58 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
And How was the 14th amendment repurposed to give LGBT people equal rights for example? I should have just accepted I would never be equal under the law in some states and never be able to be recognized as a family if I adopted children or had a surrogate mother.

Your stays as legal guardian is Federal. If you want to force all states to recognize same-sex marriage or polygamy, amend the Constitution, don't repurpose it.

You don’t need to amend the constitution for every nitpick, the 14th amendment explicitly applies all of this to the states.
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- Due process
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