Then dont cry or complain when someone like Arthur Jones wins the election
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by Washington Resistance Army » Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:48 pm

by Shrillland » Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:53 pm

by The Parkus Empire » Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:00 pm

by Shrillland » Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:04 pm

by The Parkus Empire » Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:07 pm
Shrillland wrote:The Parkus Empire wrote:Not anymore. No one who strongly supports open borders and living document will be voting Republican regardless
Not necessarily true. There are still old-style Republicans who believe in small government and unfettered free enterprise, and a lot of them voted Libertarian back in 2016. Remember, Gary Johnson did manage to get around 5 million votes, many of them from disaffected Republicans who stood on principles yet didn't want to be caught up in the Trump malaise. And who said that Libertarians believed in the living document?

by Valgora » Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:10 pm
The Parkus Empire wrote:Shrillland wrote:
Not necessarily true. There are still old-style Republicans who believe in small government and unfettered free enterprise, and a lot of them voted Libertarian back in 2016. Remember, Gary Johnson did manage to get around 5 million votes, many of them from disaffected Republicans who stood on principles yet didn't want to be caught up in the Trump malaise. And who said that Libertarians believed in the living document?
Libertarians believe in a bigger Federal regulation of state government. No paleolibertarian would touch the Libertarian Party
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by The Parkus Empire » Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:14 pm

by Shrillland » Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:28 pm

by The Parkus Empire » Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:32 pm
Shrillland wrote:The Parkus Empire wrote:The LP believes in retconning the Constitution to force same-sex marriage and abortion and so forth on the states. This is a complete break from paleolibertarians like Ron Paul.
No, to Libertarians, it means less federal interference and a restoration of 10th Amendment principles concerning states' rights since, as they see it, it is not in the federal government's purview to manage these kinds of things.

by Washington Resistance Army » Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:34 pm

by Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol » Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:36 pm
The Parkus Empire wrote:Shrillland wrote:
No, to Libertarians, it means less federal interference and a restoration of 10th Amendment principles concerning states' rights since, as they see it, it is not in the federal government's purview to manage these kinds of things.
The LP doesn't actually stand for that anymore, claiming they are more concerned with individual rights than states' rights. Right-libertarians, in other words, are not really represented by the LP

by The Parkus Empire » Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:37 pm

by The Parkus Empire » Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:37 pm
Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol wrote:The Parkus Empire wrote:The LP doesn't actually stand for that anymore, claiming they are more concerned with individual rights than states' rights. Right-libertarians, in other words, are not really represented by the LP
Wrong, the Libertarian party supports state rights in regards to gay marriage and abortion. Just because someone personally supports abortion rights and gay marriage does not mean they want to abolish state rights.

by Washington Resistance Army » Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:38 pm

by The Parkus Empire » Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:40 pm

by The Greater Ohio Valley » Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:44 pm

by The Parkus Empire » Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:47 pm
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Why are you so against the 14th amendment?
A lot of conservatives have historically despised the 14th amendment ever since it was ratified, probably because it's too pro-freedom, renders state-level oppression unconstitutional and something-something equal rights are bad.

by The Greater Ohio Valley » Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:53 pm
The Parkus Empire wrote:The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:A lot of conservatives have historically despised the 14th amendment ever since it was ratified, probably because it's too pro-freedom, renders state-level oppression unconstitutional and something-something equal rights are bad.
No one would have supported it if they knew it would be completely repurposed as it has been.

by San Lumen » Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:55 pm
The Parkus Empire wrote:The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:A lot of conservatives have historically despised the 14th amendment ever since it was ratified, probably because it's too pro-freedom, renders state-level oppression unconstitutional and something-something equal rights are bad.
No one would have supported it if they knew it would be completely repurposed as it has been.

by The Republic of Fore » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:16 pm

by San Lumen » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:17 pm
The Republic of Fore wrote:San Lumen wrote:
Then dont cry or complain when someone like Arthur Jones wins the election
Don't worry, he won't. Lipinski is going nowhere. Plus, It's a federal election so one person doesn't matter. You can probably count on one hand the number of times one vote has mattered.

by The Republic of Fore » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:32 pm
San Lumen wrote:The Republic of Fore wrote:Don't worry, he won't. Lipinski is going nowhere. Plus, It's a federal election so one person doesn't matter. You can probably count on one hand the number of times one vote has mattered.
If enough people decide not to vote because the Democrat isn't liberal enough for them thats how he could win. I do not view any election as written in stone anymore.
One vote decided control of the Virginia House of Delegates last year.

by San Lumen » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:58 pm
The Republic of Fore wrote:San Lumen wrote:If enough people decide not to vote because the Democrat isn't liberal enough for them thats how he could win. I do not view any election as written in stone anymore.
One vote decided control of the Virginia House of Delegates last year.
No, he won't win. This is a district no republican has held in over 40 years. Enough of the fear mongering. This happens everytime we get a candidate who's a terrible person. First comes the media coverage, then the endless freakouts and insistence he's totally going to win. Then he gets trashed. I seem to remember certain people on this forum insisting Don Blankenship would win. How'd that prediction work out? Also, I said federal election. Last time I checked the Virginia house of delegates is not a part of congress.

by The Republic of Fore » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:07 pm
San Lumen wrote:The Republic of Fore wrote:No, he won't win. This is a district no republican has held in over 40 years. Enough of the fear mongering. This happens everytime we get a candidate who's a terrible person. First comes the media coverage, then the endless freakouts and insistence he's totally going to win. Then he gets trashed. I seem to remember certain people on this forum insisting Don Blankenship would win. How'd that prediction work out? Also, I said federal election. Last time I checked the Virginia house of delegates is not a part of congress.
They said Trump would never win either.
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