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Who wins the AL-2 GOP Runoff on July 17th?

Rep. Martha Roby
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Bobby Bright
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Total votes : 38

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:58 pm

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What did the poor 20s ever do to you. They were roaring after all, do you not like roaring things?


African americans couldn't vote in many states, abortion was illegal, LGBT people had no rights, just to name a few. But i gather you'd have no issue with any that as long as you have your precious bullets.

African Americans were given the right to vote nation wide with the Fifteenth Amendment, and LGBT had all the rights in the Constitution.
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Postby Telconi » Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:02 pm

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Recently, yeah. Congratulations on that I suppose.

What do you mean?


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Postby Arlenton » Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:13 pm

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Gooooooooooood

Keep the Senate GOP, I want those sweet sweet SCOTUS nominations.

Yeah so you can return to the glorious 1920s.

Back when both major parties could nominate conservatives. :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1924

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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:13 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
African americans couldn't vote in many states, abortion was illegal, LGBT people had no rights, just to name a few. But i gather you'd have no issue with any that as long as you have your precious bullets.

African Americans were given the right to vote nation wide with the Fifteenth Amendment, and LGBT had all the rights in the Constitution.

And yet in many Southern States you had things like poll taxes and literacy tests to prevent them from voting

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Postby Arlenton » Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:14 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
African americans couldn't vote in many states, abortion was illegal, LGBT people had no rights, just to name a few. But i gather you'd have no issue with any that as long as you have your precious bullets.

African Americans were given the right to vote nation wide with the Fifteenth Amendment, and LGBT had all the rights in the Constitution.

Not in the South. Not until the mid 1960s.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:47 pm

Arlenton wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Yeah so you can return to the glorious 1920s.

Back when both major parties could nominate conservatives. :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1924


Too bad people learned to read. :D

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Postby Corrian » Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:46 pm

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Gooooooooooood

Keep the Senate GOP, I want those sweet sweet SCOTUS nominations.

Nothing good about corporations shoveling a shit ton of money into candidates.
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Postby Arlenton » Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:03 pm

Corrian wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Gooooooooooood

Keep the Senate GOP, I want those sweet sweet SCOTUS nominations.

Nothing good about corporations shoveling a shit ton of money into candidates.

Voters say otherwise, given those with more money tend to be more likely to win.

Unless they are against Trump.

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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:09 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
African americans couldn't vote in many states, abortion was illegal, LGBT people had no rights, just to name a few. But i gather you'd have no issue with any that as long as you have your precious bullets.

African Americans were given the right to vote nation wide with the Fifteenth Amendment, and LGBT had all the rights in the Constitution.

Uh huh, and certain states took note of that and actively enforced the Fifteenth Amendment in a campaign called Jim Crow.
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Postby Sovaal » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:15 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:African Americans were given the right to vote nation wide with the Fifteenth Amendment, and LGBT had all the rights in the Constitution.

Uh huh, and certain states took note of that and actively enforced the Fifteenth Amendment in a campaign called Jim Crow.

And nation wide a group dressed in white robes appeared to help the blacks vote right, if they voted at all.
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Postby Hakons » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:26 pm

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Petrasylvania wrote:Uh huh, and certain states took note of that and actively enforced the Fifteenth Amendment in a campaign called Jim Crow.

And nation wide a group dressed in white robes appeared to help the blacks vote right, if they voted at all.


Not in every state, but the KKK did see a resurgence in the early 20s. It focused more on nativism (Anglo-Protestant) than southern revanchism. Indiana sadly became a hub of clan activity during this period.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:37 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:African Americans were given the right to vote nation wide with the Fifteenth Amendment, and LGBT had all the rights in the Constitution.

Uh huh, and certain states took note of that and actively enforced the Fifteenth Amendment in a campaign called Jim Crow.

I don't think Jim Crow laws denied the right to vote, but correct me if I'm wrong.
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Postby Sovaal » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:45 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Arlenton wrote:Back when both major parties could nominate conservatives. :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1924


Too bad people learned to read. :D

*shrugs* I would vote for a conservative if he had some decent ideas. But you guys keep giving choices like the shrub, donnie, Cruz, and Rubio.

I mean if you want to vote in this country you kinda have to give up on good ideas.
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Postby Sovaal » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:46 pm

Hakons wrote:
Sovaal wrote:And nation wide a group dressed in white robes appeared to help the blacks vote right, if they voted at all.


Not in every state, but the KKK did see a resurgence in the early 20s. It focused more on nativism (Anglo-Protestant) than southern revanchism. Indiana sadly became a hub of clan activity during this period.

Oh, I know. Just wanted to point out that the racial problems of the twentieth where hardly exclusive to the South.
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Postby Sovaal » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:46 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Uh huh, and certain states took note of that and actively enforced the Fifteenth Amendment in a campaign called Jim Crow.

I don't think Jim Crow laws denied the right to vote, but correct me if I'm wrong.

De facto they infringed upon them heavily.
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:49 pm

Arlenton wrote:
Corrian wrote:Nothing good about corporations shoveling a shit ton of money into candidates.

Voters say otherwise, given those with more money tend to be more likely to win.

Unless they are against Trump.


It's more like that money allows candidates to spam ads, and getting your name out there and ruthlessly dragging the other schmuck through the mud. People don't really make the connection between the money they know is being donated and the ads they see on TV, it's a very abstract kind of thing, really.
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:50 pm

Sovaal wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:I don't think Jim Crow laws denied the right to vote, but correct me if I'm wrong.

De facto they infringed upon them heavily.


Actually they didn't even hide their attempts to restrict voting to "de facto." So-called literacy tests were widespread, after all.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:32 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Uh huh, and certain states took note of that and actively enforced the Fifteenth Amendment in a campaign called Jim Crow.

I don't think Jim Crow laws denied the right to vote, but correct me if I'm wrong.

There were things called literacy tests and poll taxes.

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:38 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Arlenton wrote:Voters say otherwise, given those with more money tend to be more likely to win.

Unless they are against Trump.


It's more like that money allows candidates to spam ads, and getting your name out there and ruthlessly dragging the other schmuck through the mud. People don't really make the connection between the money they know is being donated and the ads they see on TV, it's a very abstract kind of thing, really.

Granted spamming ads can go the other way as was seen in the GA-6th with Ossoff. Who basically made peope desensitized and not really caring
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Postby Guy » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:01 am

Corrian wrote:Speaking of, what the fuck are these districts?

The funny thing about Maryland redistricting is that Democrats could've gotten an 8-0 map, with quite normal-looking districts, if they were willing to draw one district that jumped the Chesaspeake Bay. They weren't, and we're left with this really quite weird-looking map that's only 7-1.

If federal courts hold partisan gerrymandering to be unconstitutional, that'll be a very good day. An even better day will be when a federal law is passed requiring independent commissions, partisan-blindness and consideration only of relevant factors in redistricting -- or even better, proportional representation (multi-member districts).

The issue is that Democrats have been the 'losers' in this gerrymandering-fest. Democratic states are more likely to vote for independent commissions, VRA tends to hurt Democrats over more than help them, and sometimes they simply haven't grasped opportunities presented to them.

So I'd really rather not get to a situation where Maryland and Illinois are somehow overturned, but NC/Wisconsin/Ohio/Michigan/Utah/PA are upheld.
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Postby Bakery Hill » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:07 am

Corrian wrote:Speaking of, what the fuck are these districts?

That's the dumbest shit.
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Postby Saiwania » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:31 am

Trump is on track to try to rig the 2020 census, his potential pick to run it is Thomas Brunell, who has a history of gerrymandering for Republicans' benefit. If there is no blue wave this year, it'll be far easier for the country to regress even more.

The "Kansas experiment" in Trickle Down economics, will be applied on a national basis among many more bad and devastating economic policies. The nation's treasure and resources will be absolutely looted and when everything goes to hell, the people responsible will be long gone; having disappeared but taking their ill gotten gains with them.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:37 am

Corrian wrote:Speaking of, what the fuck are these districts?

Fucking hell, burn it with fire.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:51 am

Saiwania wrote:Trump is on track to try to rig the 2020 census, his potential pick to run it is Thomas Brunell, who has a history of gerrymandering for Republicans' benefit. If there is no blue wave this year, it'll be far easier for the country to regress even more.

The "Kansas experiment" in Trickle Down economics, will be applied on a national basis among many more bad and devastating economic policies. The nation's treasure and resources will be absolutely looted and when everything goes to hell, the people responsible will be long gone; having disappeared but taking their ill gotten gains with them.

He wrote a book saying free and fair elections were bad. I would have to think someone like that would be so controversial that even some Republicans would vote against the pick but considering how they've rubber stamped almost every other pick i have my doubts.

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Postby Corrian » Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:03 am

San Lumen wrote:
Saiwania wrote:Trump is on track to try to rig the 2020 census, his potential pick to run it is Thomas Brunell, who has a history of gerrymandering for Republicans' benefit. If there is no blue wave this year, it'll be far easier for the country to regress even more.

The "Kansas experiment" in Trickle Down economics, will be applied on a national basis among many more bad and devastating economic policies. The nation's treasure and resources will be absolutely looted and when everything goes to hell, the people responsible will be long gone; having disappeared but taking their ill gotten gains with them.

He wrote a book saying free and fair elections were bad. I would have to think someone like that would be so controversial that even some Republicans would vote against the pick but considering how they've rubber stamped almost every other pick i have my doubts.

Does that guy even go through a vote process to pick him, though?
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