Separating urban and rural America.

[San Lumen]

So anyone who holds different views should have no say in the government. Those evil people in King County and the coast of Washington should be denied representation in the state legislature including your town?

Given that you don't want them evil farmers to have say in government, it's only fair.

Never said that.

[Proctopeo]

Given that you don't want them evil farmers to have say in government, it's only fair.

Never said that.

You've heavily implied it multiple times.

[San Lumen]

Never said that.

You've heavily implied it multiple times.

No I did not.

[Proctopeo]

You've heavily implied it multiple times.

No I did not.

You definitely consider farmers evil, and other comments imply you don't want them to be involved in government, so...

[Telconi]

I'm open to it if said party is close to my ideals and beliefs.

So anyone who holds different views should have no say in the government. Those evil people in King County and the coast of Washington should be denied representation in the state legislature including your town?

I mean, that is sort of how one party states work...

[San Lumen]

So anyone who holds different views should have no say in the government. Those evil people in King County and the coast of Washington should be denied representation in the state legislature including your town?

I mean, that is sort of how one party states work...

Well im sorry you think that only your views should matter and that anyone who disagrees with you should be denied representation or perhaps even the right to vote.

[Washington Resistance Army]

So anyone who holds different views should have no say in the government.

They could join the party and attempt to influence things from within. There's no reason there couldn't be policy debate within the party itself and changes to things as needed if ageed upon by a large majority of the party reps.

Those evil people in King County and the coast of Washington should be denied representation in the state legislature including your town?

They shouldn't be denied representation, they should just vote for candidates from a single party.

[San Lumen]

So anyone who holds different views should have no say in the government.

They could join the party and attempt to influence things from within. There's no reason there couldn't be policy debate within the party itself and changes to things as needed if ageed upon by a large majority of the party reps.

Those evil people in King County and the coast of Washington should be denied representation in the state legislature including your town?

They shouldn't be denied representation, they should just vote for candidates from a single party.

So be forced to vote for people they dont agree with as long as it benefits you? How is that not the definition of tyranny?

[Telconi]

I mean, that is sort of how one party states work...

Well im sorry you think that only your views should matter and that anyone who disagrees with you should be denied representation or perhaps even the right to vote.

And I'm sorry that your views and opinions shouldn't be allowed even remotely close to a ballot box.

[Telconi]

They could join the party and attempt to influence things from within. There's no reason there couldn't be policy debate within the party itself and changes to things as needed if ageed upon by a large majority of the party reps.



They shouldn't be denied representation, they should just vote for candidates from a single party.

So be forced to vote for people they dont agree with as long as it benefits you? How is that not the defitnion of tyranny?

I would point out that you said it wasn't tyranny when I pointed out that California did it...

[San Lumen]

Well im sorry you think that only your views should matter and that anyone who disagrees with you should be denied representation or perhaps even the right to vote.

And I'm sorry that your views and opinions shouldn't be allowed even remotely close to a ballot box.

And why is that? What views and opinions have i given that are so horrible that you would say that?

[Proctopeo]

They could join the party and attempt to influence things from within. There's no reason there couldn't be policy debate within the party itself and changes to things as needed if ageed upon by a large majority of the party reps.



They shouldn't be denied representation, they should just vote for candidates from a single party.

So be forced to vote for people they dont agree with as long as it benefits you? How is that not the definition of tyranny?

That's pretty close to what you seem to believe about Trump voters tbh

[Washington Resistance Army]

They could join the party and attempt to influence things from within. There's no reason there couldn't be policy debate within the party itself and changes to things as needed if ageed upon by a large majority of the party reps.



They shouldn't be denied representation, they should just vote for candidates from a single party.

So be forced to vote for people they dont agree with as long as it benefits you? How is that not the definition of tyranny?

It probably is, but I'm more and more starting to fall into the camp of democracy has failed and is actively harming the nation at this point.

[San Lumen]

So be forced to vote for people they dont agree with as long as it benefits you? How is that not the defitnion of tyranny?

I would point out that you said it wasn't tyranny when I pointed out that California did it...

the coast has more population therefore they get more representatives. Its that simple. That's not tyranny its called representative democracy

[Washington Resistance Army]

I would point out that you said it wasn't tyranny when I pointed out that California did it...

the coast has more population therefore they get more representatives. Its that simple. That's not tyranny its called representative democracy

Tyranny by majority/plurality is a thing.

[Senkaku]

So be forced to vote for people they dont agree with as long as it benefits you? How is that not the definition of tyranny?

It probably is, but I'm more and more starting to fall into the camp of democracy has failed and is actively harming the nation at this point.

Tbh can we just build a superintelligent benevolent AI and just let it deal with this shit

[San Lumen]

the coast has more population therefore they get more representatives. Its that simple. That's not tyranny its called representative democracy

Tyranny by majority/plurality is a thing.

So your solution is a one party dictatorship?

[Senkaku]

the coast has more population therefore they get more representatives. Its that simple. That's not tyranny its called representative democracy

Tyranny by majority/plurality is a thing.

The line we have to walk between tyranny by majority and disenfranchising the majority is a frustrating one, yes.

[San Lumen]

Tyranny by majority/plurality is a thing.

The line we have to walk between tyranny by majority and disenfranchising the majority is a frustrating one, yes.

No see only the rural votes of famers and small town matter. the votes of and views of urban folk dont.

[Telconi]

And I'm sorry that your views and opinions shouldn't be allowed even remotely close to a ballot box.

And why is that? What views and opinions have i given that are so horrible that you would say that?

You dismissed my values and beliefs as unimportant.

[San Lumen]

And why is that? What views and opinions have i given that are so horrible that you would say that?

You dismissed my values and beliefs as unimportant.

I did not. You only complained about not being able to buy your precious bullets for a few days. I did not dismiss your beliefs and values as unimportant.

[Telconi]

I would point out that you said it wasn't tyranny when I pointed out that California did it...

the coast has more population therefore they get more representatives. Its that simple. That's not tyranny its called representative democracy

More representatives is not the same as implementing single party elections.

[Washington Resistance Army]

It probably is, but I'm more and more starting to fall into the camp of democracy has failed and is actively harming the nation at this point.

Tbh can we just build a superintelligent benevolent AI and just let it deal with this shit

>wanting Skynet to nuke everything

Friendo no, go watch the Terminator documentaries

Tyranny by majority/plurality is a thing.

So your solution is a one party dictatorship?

Dictatorship is a bit of a harsh word. I have no problems with elections still being held and whatnot I just think having one party instead of several squabbling ones who hate each other more than they want to help the nation would lead to better end results.

[San Lumen]

the coast has more population therefore they get more representatives. Its that simple. That's not tyranny its called representative democracy

More representatives is not the same as implementing single party elections.

yeah so your values are the only ones represented and to me that seems be guns is the only thing you care about and that because the evil people in the state capital won't let you have bullets for a few days means we should have perpetual single party rule is completely utterly absurd.

[San Lumen]

Tbh can we just build a superintelligent benevolent AI and just let it deal with this shit

>wanting Skynet to nuke everything

Friendo no, go watch the Terminator documentaries

So your solution is a one party dictatorship?

Dictatorship is a bit of a harsh word. I have no problems with elections still being held and whatnot I just think having one party instead of several squabbling ones who hate each other more than they want to help the nation would lead to better end results.

one party rule has never worked anywhere. Its not a free and fair election if only party is on the ballot.