Separating urban and rural America.

[Gig em Aggies]

Your just stalling now. Who says it has to effect you? I gave you an example of how it wouldn't work and that's all you have to say?

How wouldn't it work, they stop being married in the county that prevents them from being married. Really simple really.

How did we go from urban/city folk and rural/farming to talking about gay marriage? Y'all drinking too much moonshine or did you get into some really good stuff.

[San Lumen]

How wouldn't it work, they stop being married in the county that prevents them from being married. Really simple really.

How did we go from urban/city folk and rural/farming to talking about gay marriage? Y'all drinking too much moonshine or did you get into some really good stuff.

I was giving Telconi an example of how his policy of counties and towns choosing which state laws they will follow wouldn't work.

[San Lumen]

But certain votes count more than others which isnt fair.

so us urban folk get little to no representatives and some farms choice for governor always wins? Thats not democratic or fair. And if a farmer believes i shouldnt be allowed to marry or adopt children or date a black man oh well?

Of course it's not democratic, fair however is a matter of debate. You could easily avoid that fate by buying a farm and preventing that. This could all be avoided if you just give them those subsidies. The cities on the coasts are too affected by Nautical Materialism to be allowed to vote in the first place. Even coastal farms should be suspect.

Well I dont want to own a farm nor do I own property does that mean I and many others shouldnt be allowed to vote? You want dictatorship and the worst kind tyranny of the minority.

[The East Marches II]

Of course it's not democratic, fair however is a matter of debate. You could easily avoid that fate by buying a farm and preventing that. This could all be avoided if you just give them those subsidies. The cities on the coasts are too affected by Nautical Materialism to be allowed to vote in the first place. Even coastal farms should be suspect.

Well I dont want to own a farm nor do I own property does that mean I and many others shouldnt be allowed to vote? You want dictatorship and the worst kind tyranny of the minority.

Then that's on you when those things get passed. Even worse is your terrible characterization of them as 50s Southern segregationists. That was impressive.

[The Two Jerseys]

How did we go from urban/city folk and rural/farming to talking about gay marriage? Y'all drinking too much moonshine or did you get into some really good stuff.

I was giving Telconi an example of how his policy of counties and towns choosing which state laws they will follow wouldn't work.

Tell it to your urbanites and their sanctuary cities.

[San Lumen]

Well I dont want to own a farm nor do I own property does that mean I and many others shouldnt be allowed to vote? You want dictatorship and the worst kind tyranny of the minority.

Then that's on you when those things get passed. Even worse is your terrible characterization of them as 50s Southern segregationists. That was impressive.

And whose going to pass something like that only to get stuck down in court immediately?

[Oil exporting People]

And whose going to pass something like that only to get stuck down in court immediately?

Did we not go over this what, 45 minutes ago?

[Telconi]

How did we go from urban/city folk and rural/farming to talking about gay marriage? Y'all drinking too much moonshine or did you get into some really good stuff.

I was giving Telconi an example of how his policy of counties and towns choosing which state laws they will follow wouldn't work.

Easy peasy, just don't move to the no gay couples county if you're gay and married. Don't move to a county dowe stream from place's that use pesticides. There's no reason why it wouldn't work, there's all kinds of different laws in different jurisdictions.

[San Lumen]

I was giving Telconi an example of how his policy of counties and towns choosing which state laws they will follow wouldn't work.

Easy peasy, just don't move to the no gay couples county if you're gay and married. Don't move to a county dowe stream from place's that use pesticides. There's no reason why it wouldn't work, there's all kinds of different laws in different jurisdictions.

Why should a county be able to pick and choose what laws it follows?

I suggest you read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nullification_Crisis

[Telconi]

Easy peasy, just don't move to the no gay couples county if you're gay and married. Don't move to a county dowe stream from place's that use pesticides. There's no reason why it wouldn't work, there's all kinds of different laws in different jurisdictions.

Why should a county be able to pick and choose what laws it follows?

I suggest you read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nullification_Crisis

Because awful people write laws.

And I'm fully aware of what happened, I don't see a problem with that.

[San Lumen]

Why should a county be able to pick and choose what laws it follows?

I suggest you read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nullification_Crisis

Because awful people write laws.

And I'm fully aware of what happened, I don't see a problem with that.

Then vote them out. Its called an election.

Why don't you see a problem with it?

[Telconi]

Because awful people write laws.

And I'm fully aware of what happened, I don't see a problem with that.

Then vote them out. Its called an election.

Why don't you see a problem with it?

Awful people make up the majority of the voter base...

Because nothing bad happened?

[The Great-German Empire]

Because awful people write laws.

And I'm fully aware of what happened, I don't see a problem with that.

Well, there are also times when a succession of awful people "disregard" sensible laws - like Californian politicians with immigration laws.

[San Lumen]

Then vote them out. Its called an election.

Why don't you see a problem with it?

Awful people make up the majority of the voter base...

Because nothing bad happened?

Oh so its the people fault now? Only the people you like should be allowed to vote got it. Better why not just have a government like Eritrea where there are no elections at all and there is one party rule.

[The Great-German Empire]

Awful people make up the majority of the voter base...

Because nothing bad happened?

Exactly what's wrong with today's society. People have the gall to think that everyone else is wrong and immoral when it comes to subjective political opinions.

[Gig em Aggies]

Easy peasy, just don't move to the no gay couples county if you're gay and married. Don't move to a county dowe stream from place's that use pesticides. There's no reason why it wouldn't work, there's all kinds of different laws in different jurisdictions.

Why should a county be able to pick and choose what laws it follows?

I suggest you read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nullification_Crisis

To be fair isn't that what a lot of counties and cities in blue states are doing by defying federal authorities when they requested people to be held for immigration authorities or the fact that blue state leaders continue doing things to spite the Feds?

[Telconi]

Awful people make up the majority of the voter base...

Because nothing bad happened?

Oh so its the people fault now? Only the people you like should be allowed to vote got it. Better why not just have a government like Eritrea where there are no elections at all and there is one party rule.

Only the people that are going to leave me alone. But that doesn't happen, instead he people elect bigots that force their prejudiced stupidity upon people who just want to be left alone.

So remind me again why this system is good?

[Telconi]

Awful people make up the majority of the voter base...

Because nothing bad happened?

Exactly what's wrong with today's society. People have the gall to think that everyone else is wrong and immoral when it comes to subjective political opinions.

If you force other people to practice your subjective opinions, you are wrong and immoral.

[San Lumen]

Why should a county be able to pick and choose what laws it follows?

I suggest you read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nullification_Crisis

To be fair isn't that what a lot of counties and cities in blue states are doing by defying federal authorities when they requested people to be held for immigration authorities or the fact that blue state leaders continue doing things to spite the Feds?

Do you even know the definition of sanctuary city?

Oh so its the people fault now? Only the people you like should be allowed to vote got it. Better why not just have a government like Eritrea where there are no elections at all and there is one party rule.

Only the people that are going to leave me alone. But that doesn't happen, instead he people elect bigots that force their prejudiced stupidity upon people who just want to be left alone.

So remind me again why this system is good?

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Well when you reside in a democracy thats the trade off. But i wouldn't say the people are electing bigots forcing their prejudiced stupidity on you. In what way are you being oppressed by the federal and state and local government ?

[Telconi]

To be fair isn't that what a lot of counties and cities in blue states are doing by defying federal authorities when they requested people to be held for immigration authorities or the fact that blue state leaders continue doing things to spite the Feds?

Do you even know the definition of sanctuary city?

Only the people that are going to leave me alone. But that doesn't happen, instead he people elect bigots that force their prejudiced stupidity upon people who just want to be left alone.

So remind me again why this system is good?

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Well when you reside in a democracy thats the trade off. But i wouldn't say the people are electing bigots forcing their prejudiced stupidity on you. In what way are you being oppressed by the federal and state and local government ?

Trade offs require that I gain something...

That's how...

[San Lumen]

Do you even know the definition of sanctuary city? '
Well when you reside in a democracy thats the trade off. But i wouldn't say the people are electing bigots forcing their prejudiced stupidity on you. In what way are you being oppressed by the federal and state and local government ?

Trade offs require that I gain something...

That's how...

So its all about your guns right? That's all you care about? Pathetic.

[Oil exporting People]

Why, then, should rural districts be entitled to urban money after screwing over urban America? Is there any way to rearrange the USA so as to treat rural America as a new country and urban America as a collection of city-states?

An interesting suggestion; perhaps Federalizing the cities? I.e. they get treated like D.C.?

[Telconi]

Trade offs require that I gain something...

That's how...

So its all about your guns right? That's all you care about? Pathetic.

Says the guy who wants to marry another dude...

[San Lumen]

Why, then, should rural districts be entitled to urban money after screwing over urban America? Is there any way to rearrange the USA so as to treat rural America as a new country and urban America as a collection of city-states?

An interesting suggestion; perhaps Federalizing the cities? I.e. they get treated like D.C.?

No its not possible. D.C is unique as specified in the constitution as federal district not part of of any state. Their ability to pass laws is subject to approval by Congress but rarely are they overturned. Trying to do something like that for other places would probably violate state sovereignty and more likely the constitution.

[Oil exporting People]

No its not possible. D.C is unique as specified in the constitution as federal district not part of of any state. Their ability to pass laws is subject to approval by Congress but rarely are they overturned. Trying to do something like that for other places would probably violate state sovereignty and more likely the constitution.

Hence why we would do a Constitutional movement; we've already been over this and this discussion is about policy ideas.