Separating urban and rural America.

[San Lumen]

oh so you dont believe in Democracy. You just want a dictatorship, Go ask someone from Eritrea, Sudan or Uzbekistan how wonderful dictatorship is.

Ah, because democracies never do bad things right? I'm sure all those black folks in the Jim Crow days didn't suffer because the oppressive laws sprang from one of your "fair" majorities...

And guess what that law was repealed by....wait for it... The Civil Rights Act of 1964.

[Telconi]

Ah, because democracies never do bad things right? I'm sure all those black folks in the Jim Crow days didn't suffer because the oppressive laws sprang from one of your "fair" majorities...

And guess what that law was repealed by....wait for it... The Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Do you have a relevant response or am I supposed to veer off on your tangent too?

[San Lumen]

And guess what that law was repealed by....wait for it... The Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Do you have a relevant response or am I supposed to veer off on your tangent too?

Do Democracies do bad things sometimes? Yes. But what you dont do is make it so certain votes count less than others or prevent certain people from voting at all.

[Telconi]

Do you have a relevant response or am I supposed to veer off on your tangent too?

Do Democracies do bad things sometimes? Yes. But what you dont do is make it so certain votes count less than others or prevent certain people from voting at all.

Why not?

Let's say, hypothetically, a homophobic majority came to power and managed to implement a referendum. If passed, it would make homosexuality a capital crime. Would you simply sit down and accept your fair democratic result if it passed?

[San Lumen]

Do Democracies do bad things sometimes? Yes. But what you dont do is make it so certain votes count less than others or prevent certain people from voting at all.

Why not?

Let's say, hypothetically, a homophobic majority came to power and managed to implement a referendum. If passed, it would make homosexuality a capital crime. Would you simply sit down and accept your fair democratic result if it passed?

That referendum would be unlikely to get to the ballot in the first place but it did and it passed it would be challenged in court and almost certainly overturned.

[Telconi]

Why not?

Let's say, hypothetically, a homophobic majority came to power and managed to implement a referendum. If passed, it would make homosexuality a capital crime. Would you simply sit down and accept your fair democratic result if it passed?

That referendum would be unlikely to get to the ballot in the first place but it did it would be challenged in court and almost certainly overturned.

So you're just going to dodge the question? Not unexpected.

[San Lumen]

That referendum would be unlikely to get to the ballot in the first place but it did it would be challenged in court and almost certainly overturned.

So you're just going to dodge the question? Not unexpected.

And you dodged my response. But no i would not accept it. But you'd be talking about a state referendum as national referendums do not exist in the United States.

the referendum in question would almost certainly be ruled unconstitutional.

[Telconi]

So you're just going to dodge the question? Not unexpected.

And you dodged my response. But no i would not accept it. But you'd be talking about a state referendum as national referendums do not exist in the United States.

But it was fair, isn't it important to you to have a fair election?

Also, constitutions are subject to change. It theoretically could happen.

[San Lumen]

And you dodged my response. But no i would not accept it. But you'd be talking about a state referendum as national referendums do not exist in the United States.

But it was fair, isn't it important to you to have a fair election?

but not a referendum that is illegal under the constitution.

[Telconi]

But it was fair, isn't it important to you to have a fair election?

but not a referendum that is illegal under the constitution.

As edited: The Constitutuon is subject to change, it could theoretically happen, and it's a hypothetical scenario, stop dodging it and answer.

[San Lumen]

but not a referendum that is illegal under the constitution.

As edited: The Constitutuon is subject to change, it could theoretically happen, and it's a hypothetical scenario, stop dodoing it and answer.

No i would not accept it. It would never happen as there are no national referendums in the United States. Even if i did i would join a lawsuit to overturn it as unconstitutional.

[Telconi]

As edited: The Constitutuon is subject to change, it could theoretically happen, and it's a hypothetical scenario, stop dodoing it and answer.

No i would not accept it. It would never happen as there are no national referendums in the United States. Even if i did i would join a lawsuit to overturn it as unconstitutional.

You'd join a lawsuit on your way to the intake concentration camp?

Also, do you understand the concept of hypotheticals?

[MGTOWia]

Ultra-extreme left-wingers have corrupted most large urban areas. And through them, much of the judiciary, academia and the entertainment industry. Want to see the future of blue urban America? Look at Baltimore, Detroit, Chicago, the Big Rotten Apple and LA for starters. Oh, and Denver, which just decriminalized public defecation.

Anything that would separate blue Congressional districts from red districts would be a good thing. I don't consider leftists to be fellow Americans at this point, and don't want them having any say over my life. And I'm sure many of them reciprocate. So it's time for a divorce.

[Oil exporting People]

Even if i did i would join a lawsuit to overturn it as unconstitutional.

That's not how that works.

[San Lumen]

No i would not accept it. It would never happen as there are no national referendums in the United States. Even if i did i would join a lawsuit to overturn it as unconstitutional.

You'd join a lawsuit on your way to the intake concentration camp?

Also, do you understand the concept of hypotheticals?

Its a ridiculous hypothetical as its impossible.

[San Lumen]

Even if i did i would join a lawsuit to overturn it as unconstitutional.

That's not how that works.

Proposition 8 in California was overturned as unconstitutional.

[Telconi]

You'd join a lawsuit on your way to the intake concentration camp?

Also, do you understand the concept of hypotheticals?

Its a ridiculous hypothetical as its impossible.

So you just refuse to answer? Why?

[Oil exporting People]

Proposition 8 in California was overturned as unconstitutional.

Yes, but that was at the State Level; if you're debating the Federal Constitution, no lawsuit can overturn an Amendment because it's literally Constitutional by virtue of existing.

[San Lumen]

Its a ridiculous hypothetical as its impossible.

So you just refuse to answer? Why?

I gave you an answer. Id probably seek asylum in Canada as well.

[San Lumen]

Proposition 8 in California was overturned as unconstitutional.

Yes, but that was at the State Level; if you're debating the Federal Constitution, no lawsuit can overturn an Amendment because it's literally Constitutional by virtue of existing.

Telconi was talking about a referendum which does not exist at the national level in the United States.

[Oil exporting People]

[Telconi was talking about a referendum which does not exist at the national level in the United States.

i.e. an Amendment or related process engendered by such; no lawsuit could overturn that.

[San Lumen]

[Telconi was talking about a referendum which does not exist at the national level in the United States.

i.e. an Amendment or related process engendered by such; no lawsuit could overturn that.

Referendums have been overturned by courts before. Prop 8 in California was.

[Oil exporting People]

Referendums have been overturned by courts before. Prop 8 in California was.

Which is why Telconi brought up a Constitutional Amendment, obviously. Should an Amendment be added to this effect to the Constitution, then such could never be overturned; this is basic Constitutional Law here.

[San Lumen]

Ultra-extreme left-wingers have corrupted most large urban areas. And through them, much of the judiciary, academia and the entertainment industry. Want to see the future of blue urban America? Look at Baltimore, Detroit, Chicago, the Big Rotten Apple and LA for starters. Oh, and Denver, which just decriminalized public defecation.

Anything that would separate blue Congressional districts from red districts would be a good thing. I don't consider leftists to be fellow Americans at this point, and don't want them having any say over my life. And I'm sure many of them reciprocate. So it's time for a divorce.

Go run for office and make that a central part of your platform.

[San Lumen]

Referendums have been overturned by courts before. Prop 8 in California was.

Which is why Telconi brought up a Constitutional Amendment, obviously. Should an Amendment be added to this effect to the Constitution, then such could never be overturned; this is basic Constitutional Law here.

No Telconi mentioned a referendum not a amendment.