Separating urban and rural America.

[Oil exporting People]

You make the claim, you back it up.

I did, to which your responded to with the personal incredulity fallacy. Regardless of such, here you go:

'Exercise-in-a-pill' boosts athletic endurance by 70 percent, by Science Daily (Materials provided by the Salk Institute)
'Exercise-in-a-pill' steps closer with new study, by Medical News Today
"Exercise In A Pill" Makes Mice Run For 70 Percent Longer, by IFLscience
Exercise in a Pill Just Took a Step Closer to Reality, by NBC News

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

You make the claim, you back it up.

I did, to which your responded to with the personal incredulity fallacy. Regardless of such, here you go:

'Exercise-in-a-pill' boosts athletic endurance by 70 percent, by Science Daily (Materials provided by the Salk Institute)
'Exercise-in-a-pill' steps closer with new study, by Medical News Today
"Exercise In A Pill" Makes Mice Run For 70 Percent Longer, by IFLscience
Exercise in a Pill Just Took a Step Closer to Reality, by NBC News

All right, now that's better. Even so, it's still presented as a "we're getting there" story, not "we're already there."

In any case, it was not wrong to be skeptical, nor to hold you to the standard burden of proof. On the contrary, it is a prerequisite to reason itself.

[Oil exporting People]

All right, now that's better. Even so, it's still presented as a "we're getting there" story, not "we're already there."

Which is what I said.

In any case, it was not wrong to be skeptical, nor to hold you to the standard burden of proof. On the contrary, it is a prerequisite to reason itself.

Indeed, if that was what had occurred; I posted a link in a post, to which you responded with personal incredulity instead of asking for further proof. Regardless, this is a pedantic point.

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

All right, now that's better. Even so, it's still presented as a "we're getting there" story, not "we're already there."

Which is what I said.

In any case, it was not wrong to be skeptical, nor to hold you to the standard burden of proof. On the contrary, it is a prerequisite to reason itself.

Indeed, if that was what had occurred; I posted a link in a post, to which you responded with personal incredulity instead of asking for further proof. Regardless, this is a pedantic point.

No, it's a microcosm of the way our apparent attitudes toward skepticism.

I posted perfectly reasonable skepticism of "miracle breakthrough" articles that often turn out to be BS; you left it up to me to look for it instead of further bolstering the case for your own claim.

[Oil exporting People]

I posted perfectly reasonable skepticism of "miracle breakthrough" articles that often turn out to be BS; you left it up to me to look for it instead of further bolstering the case for your own claim.

That would be a valid charge if it wasn't for the fact your skepticism and claim of me shifting the burden of proof thereafter didn't immediately follow after me having already posted a source for my claim. An accurate claim of shifting the burden would be making the claim of a miracle drug, you asking for a source, and me then telling you to look it up for yourself.

As I said though, this whole tangent is pedantic anyway.

[The Lone Alliance]

DNC used to be the party of the working class ( it's logo was a donkey for a reason ). After the 1960's and the rampant social justice agenda which infested the party though, it just no longer appealed to the working class American ( outside of labor ).

Pap. The DNC still is the party of the working class, they no longer appeal to a certain segment of the white working class, because that segment is angry that the DNC works for the interest of working class people of color as well,not just the white "real Americans".

More like the wishes of "PoC" and urban poor versus the Rural white poor, (And on a lesser note some segments of the White Blue Collar class) are different.

It's why they blubber about being 'abandoned' and struggling...

Which they are by both Parties.

and then go and consistently vote GOP, the party whose economic policy is overwhelming aimed at benefiting the urban rich, but while they're openly fucking those working class whites over they pat them on the head and tell them that they're the real patriots and hard-working Americans, not like those all those shiftless minorities and lazy city folk, and that's all they need to hear.

Whining about "SJW's" is just the fig leaf they use to justify the fact that in spite of insisting that they're motivated by economic concerns, they will take every opportunity to shoot themselves in the foot economically in exchange for the chance to shit on minorities and other 'undesirables'.

They are motivated by economic concerns, the problem is what they want is quite frankly impossible to deliver, and the Democrats are the only ones honest enough to say so.

The Rural white poor and the White Blue Collar "Rust belt" class want their old jobs and their old lives back.... which is literally and utterly impossible to have happen because of the way the world is now thanks to outsourcing and automation.

The only thing the Democrats can realistically offer them is welfare money and maybe retraining, something that's completely unattractive to them, meanwhile people like Trump just lies to their face and says "Sure we'll bring all those jobs back, Trust me!"

Quite frankly the truth is both parties literally do not give a fuck about the above because both parties see that neither class has much of a future in the US, especially the Blue Collar class.

The Democrats don't want there to be a future for Coal miners and other dirty polluting factory jobs in the US because that hurts the earth, and the Republicans don't want those because if those jobs are in the US they're going to want things like a "Living wage" and "Safety standards" and it's much easier for the rich to outsource to China or some other country for something like that.

[San Lumen]

Your last point if ever becomes true would just make people lazier as they'd never have to leave their house. Maybe we will have no stores or even offices someday everything will be online and we will have an even more obese society.

That ignores people would still get out of their houses for social events, the odd work thing that still requires in person events, school and such; as well, this also presumes that many won't, with the free time now available, turn to things like exercise. This also ignores the fact science already has provided a solution to this issue anyway.

What did i say that makes me a Luddite?

This:

I dont want a reality like the film Surrogates and if it ever did I'd break every robot in the street.

Well that pill is dumb too. Im sorry if not wanting people to lazy and actually be with other people makes me luddite.

[The East Marches II]

DNC used to be the party of the working class ( it's logo was a donkey for a reason ). After the 1960's and the rampant social justice agenda which infested the party though, it just no longer appealed to the working class American ( outside of labor ).

Pap. The DNC still is the party of the working class, they no longer appeal to a certain segment of the white working class, because that segment is angry that the DNC works for the interest of working class people of color as well,not just the white "real Americans".

Really? Why are they anti-Union and pro- (one way) free trade? Perhaps you could help me with that

[Oil exporting People]

Well that pill is dumb too. Im sorry if not wanting people to lazy and actually be with other people makes me luddite.

This is Poe's Law, isn't it?

[San Lumen]

Well that pill is dumb too. Im sorry if not wanting people to lazy and actually be with other people makes me luddite.

This is Poe's Law, isn't it?

what's poe's law?

[The Lone Alliance]

This is Poe's Law, isn't it?

what's poe's law?

Poe's law is if someone sees something that they can't tell isn't satire or really what someone believes. It was originally based on the fact that a person parodying a young earth creationist and the views of a real life young earth creationists are impossible to tell the difference because the views are just so unrealistically in denial of logic that it's impossible to know if they're really serious or not.

Basically they claim that some of your post's positions are so extreme people could quote your posts as satire and people would laugh at them thinking it was a joke.

[San Lumen]

what's poe's law?

Poe's law is if someone sees something that they can't tell isn't satire or really what someone believes. It was originally based on the fact that a person parodying a young earth creationist and the views of a real life young earth creationists are impossible to tell the difference because the views are just so unrealistically in denial of logic that it's impossible to know if they're really serious or not.

Basically they claim that some of your post's positions are so extreme people could quote your posts as satire and people would laugh at them thinking it was a joke.

I dont really see how what I said is extreme

[Bakery Hill]

DNC used to be the party of the working class ( it's logo was a donkey for a reason ). After the 1960's and the rampant social justice agenda which infested the party though, it just no longer appealed to the working class American ( outside of labor ).

Pap. The DNC still is the party of the working class, they no longer appeal to a certain segment of the white working class, because that segment is angry that the DNC works for the interest of working class people of color as well,not just the white "real Americans"

Imagine actually thinking like this.

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

Pap. The DNC still is the party of the working class, they no longer appeal to a certain segment of the white working class, because that segment is angry that the DNC works for the interest of working class people of color as well,not just the white "real Americans"

Imagine actually thinking like this.

Is he wrong? A lot of Democrats voted Trump during the primaries right after he outdid 16 other Republican candidates on the racism.

[Beutarch]

If the part of America responsible for the lion's share of the bad foreign policy decisions were removed, would people even WANT to attack the city-states?

TIL the Capitol and the Pentagon are located in the countryside.

You gotta be kidding me, right?

The Capitol is in the heart of DC, a city with the population of relatively small state. The Pentagon even has its own little wealthy subset of DC, befittingly named Pentagon City.

[Proctopeo]

TIL the Capitol and the Pentagon are located in the countryside.

You gotta be kidding me, right?

The Capitol is in the heart of DC, a city with the population of relatively small state. The Pentagon even has its own little wealthy subset of DC, befittingly named Pentagon City.

do you know how the "TIL" meme works or do you need a refresher

[Wansul]

You gotta be kidding me, right?

The Capitol is in the heart of DC, a city with the population of relatively small state. The Pentagon even has its own little wealthy subset of DC, befittingly named Pentagon City.

do you know how the "TIL" meme works or do you need a refresher

Hey Proctopeo? Have you ever looked at a density map? Like population density? Becuase there is something called BosWash. It's a line of heavy urban development from Boston to D.C. Through major cities. D.C. is a major city. It has a greater area, like other big cities, a large population, and is in no way countryside. Have you been there?

The Pentagon is surrounded by a city in Arlington, called Pentagon city. Near it is Alexandria, part of the Greater Washington Area. All around it are suburbs. Northern Virginiaand Southern Maryland is a giant suburb, leeching of D.C. If there was no D.C., those areas would be countryside, maybe Georgetown and Alexandria being relitivley, nice towns, but small.

Go past Georgetown, away from DC, and yes, you find your self in a wooded area. Similar if you go away from Arlington/Pentagon Area, and Maryland. They serve as parks. D.C. has natural areas. Good hikes and more tourism. But past all cities, isn't there a natural landscape?

Check out land value. That's a good indicator of if it's a city. In inner city D.C., schools are pretty bad, but nearby places like Arlington and Alexandria? They have great schools. Attracting people to the suburb.

Where ever you heard that D.C. is countryside is BS.

My thoughts about rural-urban split:

No. The trade is to interconnected, to many city people rely on going through countryside, to many rural people depend on cities for stuff made or services done, and families would be split. It makes about as much sense as dividing any state with to prominent political parties that rely on each other's members for survival, which is a recipe for a war by one, or just joining back together, which would lead you with either a state without a good democratic processnot that the US has one or back where you started.

[Proctopeo]

do you know how the "TIL" meme works or do you need a refresher

Hey Proctopeo? Have you ever looked at a density map? Like population density? Becuase there is something called BosWash. It's a line of heavy urban development from Boston to D.C. Through major cities. D.C. is a major city. It has a greater area, like other big cities, a large population, and is in no way countryside. Have you been there?

The Pentagon is surrounded by a city in Arlington, called Pentagon city. Near it is Alexandria, part of the Greater Washington Area. All around it are suburbs. Northern Virginiaand Southern Maryland is a giant suburb, leeching of D.C. If there was no D.C., those areas would be countryside, maybe Georgetown and Alexandria being relitivley, nice towns, but small.

Go past Georgetown, away from DC, and yes, you find your self in a wooded area. Similar if you go away from Arlington/Pentagon Area, and Maryland. They serve as parks. D.C. has natural areas. Good hikes and more tourism. But past all cities, isn't there a natural landscape?

Check out land value. That's a good indicator of if it's a city. In inner city D.C., schools are pretty bad, but nearby places like Arlington and Alexandria? They have great schools. Attracting people to the suburb.

Where ever you heard that D.C. is countryside is BS.

My thoughts about rural-urban split:

No. The trade is to interconnected, to many city people rely on going through countryside, to many rural people depend on cities for stuff made or services done, and families would be split. It makes about as much sense as dividing any state with to prominent political parties that rely on each other's members for survival, which is a recipe for a war by one, or just joining back together, which would lead you with either a state without a good democratic processnot that the US has one or back where you started.

What

[Zanera]

Hey Proctopeo? Have you ever looked at a density map? Like population density? Becuase there is something called BosWash. It's a line of heavy urban development from Boston to D.C. Through major cities. D.C. is a major city. It has a greater area, like other big cities, a large population, and is in no way countryside. Have you been there?

The Pentagon is surrounded by a city in Arlington, called Pentagon city. Near it is Alexandria, part of the Greater Washington Area. All around it are suburbs. Northern Virginiaand Southern Maryland is a giant suburb, leeching of D.C. If there was no D.C., those areas would be countryside, maybe Georgetown and Alexandria being relitivley, nice towns, but small.

Go past Georgetown, away from DC, and yes, you find your self in a wooded area. Similar if you go away from Arlington/Pentagon Area, and Maryland. They serve as parks. D.C. has natural areas. Good hikes and more tourism. But past all cities, isn't there a natural landscape?

Check out land value. That's a good indicator of if it's a city. In inner city D.C., schools are pretty bad, but nearby places like Arlington and Alexandria? They have great schools. Attracting people to the suburb.

Where ever you heard that D.C. is countryside is BS.

My thoughts about rural-urban split:

No. The trade is to interconnected, to many city people rely on going through countryside, to many rural people depend on cities for stuff made or services done, and families would be split. It makes about as much sense as dividing any state with to prominent political parties that rely on each other's members for survival, which is a recipe for a war by one, or just joining back together, which would lead you with either a state without a good democratic processnot that the US has one or back where you started.

What

The sarcasm has been lost somewhere in translation.

[Proctopeo]

What

The sarcasm has been lost somewhere in translation.

Sarcasm is a dying language, and it's our collective duty to keep it alive.

[Zanera]

The sarcasm has been lost somewhere in translation.

Sarcasm is a dying language, and it's our collective duty to keep it alive.

That's a great idea

[Hurdergaryp]

Sarcasm is a dying language, and it's our collective duty to keep it alive.

That's a great idea

The true reason sarcasm is suffering, is because legions of toxic edgelords pretend to be sarcastic while being insulting little bastards. Just another example of how the internet brings ruin.

[Trumptonium]

Or that both urban and rural America would be screwed over without the other. Farm land doesn't do you any good when you have nobody to sell your product to

Well one's more important than the other really. If the supply of manufactured goods, petrol etc. got cut off farmers would have to turn Amish and that would be pretty fucking annoying. But if food got cut off...

Most manufacturing in the US is in the 'rural' counties.

[Hurdergaryp]

Well one's more important than the other really. If the supply of manufactured goods, petrol etc. got cut off farmers would have to turn Amish and that would be pretty fucking annoying. But if food got cut off...

Most manufacturing in the US is in the 'rural' counties.

It's cheaper to build production halls in those areas, that's true.

[San Lumen]

Well one's more important than the other really. If the supply of manufactured goods, petrol etc. got cut off farmers would have to turn Amish and that would be pretty fucking annoying. But if food got cut off...

Most manufacturing in the US is in the 'rural' counties.

Um no thats not true