Palm Springs removing racist trees

[Internationalist Bastard]

Keep the trees. That row is also filled with small shrubs and tall grasses. It's an established ecosystem and I'd imagine birds love to nest there. A tree can't be racist, but I guess California only cares about trees and preserving wildlife habitats when it doesn't get in the way of social policy.

Actually the trees are horrible for the local ecosystem, big water drainers

[MERIZoC]

MAD ONLINE AT THE BLACKS

And where are all the environmentalists?

Environmentalists are opposed to the removal of invasive species now?

If some rich ass WASP motherfucker wanted trees removed so their property value didn't go down, you wouldn't give two shits. Spare us your snowflake outrage.

[The Parkus Empire]

If some rich ass WASP motherfucker wanted trees removed so their property value didn't go down, you wouldn't give two shits.

I would. Tax dollars should not be used for that. Besides, Richard Nixon created the EPA, and Barry Goldwater strongly supported it.

[MERIZoC]

If some rich ass WASP motherfucker wanted trees removed so their property value didn't go down, you wouldn't give two shits.

I would. Tax dollars should not be used for that. Besides, Richard Nixon created the EPA, and Barry Goldwater strongly supported it.

what lol

[The Parkus Empire]

I would. Tax dollars should not be used for that. Besides, Richard Nixon created the EPA, and Barry Goldwater strongly supported it.

what lol

Weed should be banned.

[Kazarogkai]

Planting trees is actually a good thing last I checked so tearing them down is something I would oppose generally speaking. Good for the environment, helps lower carbon in the air, the trees based on my searching appear to be adapted to drier environments and hence should not be an issue in terms of being bad for this one, and heck there is even some research saying that trees lower crime rates which is nice. Also for me Lower property is good in my eyes. Affordable housing and allowing as many people as people to have a home has always been something Ive been deeply passionate about. Goes back to my Georgist/communitarian inclinations. That's just an opinion though.

https://www.citylab.com/equity/2012/05/ ... rime/2107/

[Internationalist Bastard]

Planting trees is actually a good thing last I checked so tearing them down is something I would oppose generally speaking. Good for the environment, helps lower carbon in the air, the trees based on my searching appear to be adapted to drier environments and hence should not be an issue in terms of being bad for this one, and heck there is even some research saying that trees lower crime rates which is nice. Also for me Lower property is good in my eyes. Affordable housing and allowing as many people as people to have a home has always been something Ive been deeply passionate about. Goes back to my Georgist/communitarian inclinations. That's just an opinion though.

https://www.citylab.com/equity/2012/05/ ... rime/2107/

Invasive species that draw lots of water in a drought frequent area.

[Senkaku]

Planting trees is actually a good thing

not all trees are created equal, tamarisks in a dry, drought-afflicted area are not a great plan

Keep the trees. That row is also filled with small shrubs and tall grasses. It's an established ecosystem and I'd imagine birds love to nest there. A tree can't be racist, but I guess California only cares about trees and preserving wildlife habitats when it doesn't get in the way of social policy.

not all trees are created equal, tamarisks in a dry, drought-afflicted area are not a great plan

Besides, Richard Nixon created the EPA, and Barry Goldwater strongly supported it.

wat

also the EPA wouldn't care lol, as everyone has said a million times, tamarisks are the worst

If some rich ass WASP motherfucker wanted trees removed so their property value didn't go down, you wouldn't give two shits. Spare us your snowflake outrage.

^

Someone can feel good about being progressive without actually doing anything, and someone can make a lot of money at public expense. Should please both liberals and conservatives, I like it, very bipartisan.

"a lot of money"
it's not even $170,000 lol, this is a piddling amount of cash

Keep the trees, tear down the neighborhood to expand the golf course.

What if we could reach a compromise by just carpet-bombing Palm Springs

[The Parkus Empire]

Planting trees is actually a good thing last I checked so tearing them down is something I would oppose generally speaking. Good for the environment, helps lower carbon in the air, the trees based on my searching appear to be adapted to drier environments and hence should not be an issue in terms of being bad for this one, and heck there is even some research saying that trees lower crime rates which is nice. Also for me Lower property is good in my eyes. Affordable housing and allowing as many people as people to have a home has always been something Ive been deeply passionate about. Goes back to my Georgist/communitarian inclinations. That's just an opinion though.

https://www.citylab.com/equity/2012/05/ ... rime/2107/

Invasive species that draw lots of water in a drought frequent area.

Animals find water through plants.

[Exxosia]

They're going to be thrilled when their property values do not improve thanks to the hail of golfballs pinging their cars and houses. From the looks of it, those are barrier trees; a high, aesthetic feature to keep golf balls from flying outside the course that's nicer to look at than massive nets.

[Urran]

They're going to be thrilled when their property values do not improve thanks to the hail of golfballs pinging their cars and houses. From the looks of it, those are barrier trees; a high, aesthetic feature to keep golf balls from flying outside the course that's nicer to look at than massive nets.

Or, you know, striking Little Johnny in the back of the head and giving him a concussion. That's a lawsuit.

[The Parkus Empire]

They're going to be thrilled when their property values do not improve thanks to the hail of golfballs pinging their cars and houses. From the looks of it, those are barrier trees; a high, aesthetic feature to keep golf balls from flying outside the course that's nicer to look at than massive nets.

A parishioner recently moved out of my town because of the bother of stray golfballs.

[Senkaku]

Invasive species that draw lots of water in a drought frequent area.

Animals find water through plants.

please, continue to argue at the level of a 3rd grader and explain to me why an invasive species that consumes tons of water is ACTUALLY amazing for the environment of a dry, drought stricken area, in contradiction of established science

[The Parkus Empire]

Animals find water through plants.

please, continue to argue at the level of a 3rd grader and explain to me why an invasive species that consumes tons of water is ACTUALLY amazing for the environment of a dry, drought stricken area, in contradiction of established science

Heh, yeah, let's scrap plants in dry enviroments because of utilitarian sentiment.

[Urran]

Animals find water through plants.

please, continue to argue at the level of a 3rd grader and explain to me why an invasive species that consumes tons of water is ACTUALLY amazing for the environment of a dry, drought stricken area, in contradiction of established science

Please, they keep golf courses green because they're rich. The water supply on the course isn't natural, it's man made. Just because a tree soaks up a lot of water doesn't mean it's not suitable habitat for native species.

[Senkaku]

please, continue to argue at the level of a 3rd grader and explain to me why an invasive species that consumes tons of water is ACTUALLY amazing for the environment of a dry, drought stricken area, in contradiction of established science

Heh, yeah, let's scrap plants in dry enviroments because of utilitarian sentiment.

>"scrap plants"

ok you literally have no idea what you're on about lmfao so let's start simple- different things have different properties, and plants are things, which means some have different properties than others

[San Lumen]

No, really.

PALM SPRINGS, Calif. - Complaints from longtime residents of a historically African-American neighborhood near a Palm Springs golf course have led to the removal of a line of trees they claim were planted for racists reasons in the 1960s, according to The Desert Sun.

At an informal meeting with neighborhood residents Sunday, Dec. 17, Palm Springs Mayor Robert Moon, along with other city officials, promised residents they would remove the trees and a chain-link fence along the Crossley Tract property lines as soon as possible.

In a previous Desert Sun report, residents of the neighborhood said the line of trees "remained a lasting remnant of the history of segregation in the city." Residents also claim the invasive tamarisks, which block views of the golf course and San Jacinto mountains, have depressed property values and prevented black families from accumulating wealth in their property for the past half century. Tamarisk trees, also known by the name "tamarix," range from large, evergreen trees to small, shrubby trees.

Palm Springs City Manager David Ready says the tree removal wouldn't be immediate because it needs full city council approval. Arborists also need to be consulted and the project needs to be put up for bid. Ready estimates that the trees could be down within three months.

The cost to remove the line of trees is estimated to cost the city of Palm Springs $169,000, according to the New York Post.

So, yeah. Apparently a black community thinks a row of trees separating them from a golf course is racist. So instead of being separated by a row of trees they will now instead be separated by a chain-link fence. So, uh, progress? And where are all the environmentalists? Removing trees because "muh feels" should be a bad thing. And in case it wasn't obvious, I think this is stupid and don't support it.

So, thoughts?

I thought id heard it all but this is just insane. How can trees be racist?

[Senkaku]

please, continue to argue at the level of a 3rd grader and explain to me why an invasive species that consumes tons of water is ACTUALLY amazing for the environment of a dry, drought stricken area, in contradiction of established science

Please, they keep golf courses green because they're rich.

...yeah, no one's arguing that's good for the environment or Cali's water problems either. would be far better if they'd let it go brown and only give it minimal water to prevent it from dying at the most (or put down artificial turf).

The water supply on the course isn't natural, it's man made.

No, it's extracted from the Colorado River and Cali's glaciers and aquifers lol, all of which are being crushed by existing demand and causing massive environmental problems, and that's even ignoring how much water is just getting wasted so some damn tamarisks can suck up 200 gallons a day

Just because a tree soaks up a lot of water doesn't mean it's not suitable habitat for native species.

Palm Springs is full of fucking trees. They'll find somewhere else. Or maybe they'll decide to replant the place with more water-efficient trees someday!

Furthermore, just since I suspect you also have only the vaguest idea of what you're on about, please discuss which "native species" that inhabit tamarisks you're so courageously advocating for here And yes, I'm sure you'll google a bunch of birds or smthn bc "they can sit in tamarisks" or make nests in them or whatever but come on lmao

if the EPA or state or city agencies get involved then they get involved and maybe there's some credibility here, but so far I see none, just the blithering of totally unqualified people discounting literal fact about tamarisks to support their silly racial resentment

[Revolutionary Equestria]

Welcome to the end of the multi-ethnic experiment bub, it's over and we need to stop fighting for it. Blacks go be blacks and whites be whites, also, why is a fence less racist? That seems almost cold, at the least the universe would be keeping us a part with trees! Damn progressives, never can tell when the universe itself is telling them segregation now or leave.

[Senkaku]

No, really.


So, yeah. Apparently a black community thinks a row of trees separating them from a golf course is racist. So instead of being separated by a row of trees they will now instead be separated by a chain-link fence. So, uh, progress? And where are all the environmentalists? Removing trees because "muh feels" should be a bad thing. And in case it wasn't obvious, I think this is stupid and don't support it.

So, thoughts?

I thought id heard it all but this is just insane. How can trees be racist?

I imagine it's some combo of "we don't want to see the blacks so let's plant trees there", "we don't want the blacks to stare at our wimminz (or smthn) so let's plant trees", and "we need a clear border that defines where we're allowed to get the cops to beat niggers after sundown." But I imagine you'd have to actually, you know, ask a community member about why they feel this way, since I don't imagine it just got included for fun but the article Kramania posted seems to overlook that bit.

But of course, that takes the fun out of stirring up racial resentment and right-wing outrage, so I would never expect the OP or the other outraged snowflakes here to bother doing anything like that.

[The Parkus Empire]

Heh, yeah, let's scrap plants in dry enviroments because of utilitarian sentiment.

>"scrap plants"

ok you literally have no idea what you're on about lmfao so let's start simple- different things have different properties, and plants are things, which means some have different properties than others

So let's scrap all plants which consume above x water?

[The Parkus Empire]

"a lot of money"
it's not even $170,000 lol, this is a piddling amount of cash

Yeah, thinking that way makes embezzlement and other forms of corruption very easy. Any time this sort of cash is being used for a project with no clear benefit by a city or business, it is something to be questioned. I know someone who was on a city council plagued with corruption, and paying associates money like this for pointless jobs was a favorite.

[Zanera]

I hear many whisperings amongst the trees, wind bringing word among them before sweeping their hidden language into the night...but I heard these trees once. Yes, did I hear them! They said," Cracker."

Confused me tbh but what do you expect from trees?

[Verlzonia]

The usual "I'm [INSERT MINORITY GROUP HERE] so anything I don't like obviously is racist and must be taken down!" situation.

[Arlenton]

Planting trees is actually a good thing

not all trees are created equal, tamarisks in a dry, drought-afflicted area are not a great plan

Keep the trees. That row is also filled with small shrubs and tall grasses. It's an established ecosystem and I'd imagine birds love to nest there. A tree can't be racist, but I guess California only cares about trees and preserving wildlife habitats when it doesn't get in the way of social policy.

not all trees are created equal, tamarisks in a dry, drought-afflicted area are not a great plan

Besides, Richard Nixon created the EPA, and Barry Goldwater strongly supported it.

wat

also the EPA wouldn't care lol, as everyone has said a million times, tamarisks are the worst

If some rich ass WASP motherfucker wanted trees removed so their property value didn't go down, you wouldn't give two shits. Spare us your snowflake outrage.

^

Someone can feel good about being progressive without actually doing anything, and someone can make a lot of money at public expense. Should please both liberals and conservatives, I like it, very bipartisan.

"a lot of money"
it's not even $170,000 lol, this is a piddling amount of cash

Keep the trees, tear down the neighborhood to expand the golf course.

What if we could reach a compromise by just carpet-bombing Palm Springs

What’s wrong with Palm Springs? Seems like a decent place.