Anti-Semitism in Germany again

[Uxupox]

Primarily I’m talking just about the attitude of Muslims toward Jews, and comparing their attitudes in Europe and in the Middle East. Definitely most Middle Eastern countries seem to hate Israel, but I’m sure it’s not all lumpable into “anti-Zionism”.

Interesting point actually. Was there a strong history of jew hating in the middle east before the formation of Israel?

I don't think at the scale of today though but pogroms did regularly occur against the Jews in the Arab world.

[Oil exporting People]

I'm not sure how prevalent it was, but the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem during World War II, for one, was a sympathizer of Hitler.

Outside the Middle East, but there was Bosniak SS units as well as some Tarter formations, IIRC.

[Proctopeo]

Interesting point actually. Was there a strong history of jew hating in the middle east before the formation of Israel?

I'm not sure how prevalent it was, but the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem during World War II, for one, was a sympathizer of Hitler.

Very sympathetic, mind.

[Oil exporting People]

The rise in unfavorable views has occurred mostly among less educated and older Western Europeans. Those on both the political left and right in Europe voice more negative opinions of Jews than those in the center.” So here we have both a.) proof that anti-Semitism is endemic among Muslims, and b.) that anti-Semitism is growing on both sides of the fence, for those on the right and left, mostly due to a lack of education.

More or less, they didn't go to College and get brainwashed into Philo-semitism.

[Fartsniffage]

Interesting point actually. Was there a strong history of jew hating in the middle east before the formation of Israel?

I'm not sure how prevalent it was, but the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem during World War II, for one, was a sympathizer of Hitler.

But did he love Hitler or hate the British?

[Proctopeo]

I'm not sure how prevalent it was, but the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem during World War II, for one, was a sympathizer of Hitler.

But did he love Hitler or hate the British?

Both, I think.
And wasn't fond of the Jews, either.

[Fartsniffage]

Interesting point actually. Was there a strong history of jew hating in the middle east before the formation of Israel?

I don't think at the scale of today though but pogroms did regularly occur against the Jews in the Arab world.

That's a European word to describe wiping out Jews. I want you to think about that for a second.

[Oil exporting People]

That's a European word to describe wiping out Jews. I want you to think about that for a second.

And this proves what, exactly?

[Fartsniffage]

That's a European word to describe wiping out Jews. I want you to think about that for a second.

And this proves what, exactly?

I'm not sure it proves anything. But it's certainly food for thought.

[Parti Ouvrier]

All fine and well, provided anti-Zionism isn't conflated with anti-Semitism. Worth noting, whilst anti-Semitic anti-Zionists are not unheard of*, there are many Zionist anti-Semites among right-wingers, including world leaders, eg, Victor Orban.

* Many BDS supporters are left (includes Moshé Machover, Tony Greenstein, [UK] Max Blumenthal [US] and a Jewish Israeli - Jeff Halper ), I do hope they're not deemed as anti-Semites too.
** https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/statu ... 0622782464

Primarily I’m talking just about the attitude of Muslims toward Jews, and comparing their attitudes in Europe and in the Middle East. Definitely most Middle Eastern countries seem to hate Israel, but I’m sure it’s not all lumpable into “anti-Zionism”.

Ok.

[Trumptonium]

Probably all of it.
It's just another reason to deport all Muslims.

In other words, "All Muslims are anti-Semitic" aka textbook "All X are Y" type trolling. Which you have been smacked for repeatedly. The ice is growing thin beneath your feet. If you do not shape up and figure out how to argue within the bounds of the site rules soon, it is quite likely deletion is in your not-too-distant future.

*** Donut section, 7-day ban for trolling. ***


~Evil Forum Empress Rep Prod the Ninja Mod
~She who wields the Banhammer; master of the mighty moderation no-dachi Kiritateru Teikoku

Are you unable to distinguish between "all issues of x come from group y" from "all in group y cause issue x"?

All UK cases of Islamic extremism & arrests were on Muslims.

This is a different statement than "all Muslims are Islamic extremists in the UK"

[Liriena]

You mean the same "Berniebros" who tend to consider the "alt-light" to be a bunch of chuds

That might be the way you view it, but on the macro level, the similarities are astounding.

[Trumptonium]

That might be the way you view it, but on the macro level, the similarities are astounding.

[spoiler]

I like how in 'women should return to traditional roles', the bar for Trump is higher than Cruz even though the % is the same.

I had a perfect website representing Trump voters' views and demographics illustrated to no end, but I lost it.

[Greater Germany]

I mean, self-determination is cool, and Rojava seems to have turned out well, all things considered, but ethnonationalism seems to be nigh incapable of avoiding authoritarian and genocidal shenanigans.

I think it's hard to find an ideology that hasn't directly or indirectly killed millions. Maybe it would be best to leave humans out of the political system.

[Liriena]

I mean, self-determination is cool, and Rojava seems to have turned out well, all things considered, but ethnonationalism seems to be nigh incapable of avoiding authoritarian and genocidal shenanigans.

I think it's hard to find an ideology that hasn't directly or indirectly killed millions. Maybe it would be best to leave humans out of the political system.

Clearly, Posadism is the only rational answer here.

[Greater Germany]

I think it's hard to find an ideology that hasn't directly or indirectly killed millions. Maybe it would be best to leave humans out of the political system.

Clearly, Posadism is the only rational answer here.

I was thinking more a supercomputer, but aliens might work. Our Benefactors could uplift the entire species into a new dimension.

[Proctopeo]

I think it's hard to find an ideology that hasn't directly or indirectly killed millions. Maybe it would be best to leave humans out of the political system.

Clearly, Posadism is the only rational answer here.

No, anarcho-transhumanism is.

[Kubumba Tribe]

In other words, "All Muslims are anti-Semitic" aka textbook "All X are Y" type trolling. Which you have been smacked for repeatedly. The ice is growing thin beneath your feet. If you do not shape up and figure out how to argue within the bounds of the site rules soon, it is quite likely deletion is in your not-too-distant future.

*** Donut section, 7-day ban for trolling. ***


~Evil Forum Empress Rep Prod the Ninja Mod
~She who wields the Banhammer; master of the mighty moderation no-dachi Kiritateru Teikoku

Are you unable to distinguish between "all issues of x come from group y" from "all in group y cause issue x"?

All UK cases of Islamic extremism & arrests were on Muslims.

This is a different statement than "all Muslims are Islamic extremists in the UK"

DS said "deport all Muslims". Both your scenarios have nothing to do with what he said.

[Kubumba Tribe]

This is the background of what happened, Trumptonium:

How much of this Anti-Semitism comes from Muslims tho? If the situation in Germany is similar to the one in France, then I would say most of it.

Probably all of it.
It's just another reason to deport all Muslims.

[Baltenstein]

I don't think at the scale of today though but pogroms did regularly occur against the Jews in the Arab world.

That's a European word to describe wiping out Jews. I want you to think about that for a second.

Actually it is more used as a general word for when an incited mob turns violent on an ethnic minority, with the state authorities either looking the other way or actively encouraging it. Case in point, the 1955 Istanbul pogroms against the Greek minority, the pogroms against the Rohingya in Myanmar etc.

[Trumptonium]

This is the background of what happened, Trumptonium:

Probably all of it.
It's just another reason to deport all Muslims.

Actually if you read the ruling it is clear that the warning is due to the fact that he said that all of it [crimes of antisemitism] come from Muslims, and Mr. Important Blue Name treating it as the equivalent of saying that all Muslims cause the problem, which is illogical or grammatically incoherent.

The warning quite clearly wasn't for the deport comment.

[Oil exporting People]

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> Picks just one issue
> Believes that I said they were the same on all issues, instead of similar on a fair amount
> Confusing all Trump voters with the Alt-Light

[Greater Germany]

Clearly, Posadism is the only rational answer here.

No, anarcho-transhumanism is.

All for transhumanism.

[Ostroeuropa]

No, anarcho-transhumanism is.

All for transhumanism.

Friendship is optimal tho.

Beware the oncoming grey goo consciousness.