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Postby Computer Lab » Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:59 am

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Petrasylvania wrote:So complaining that the Israeli government looks the other way when Jewish settlers ethnically cleanse Palestinians from fertile lands is the same as getting a hardon from Holocaust documentaries now?


That same rhetoric that you use can be seen on Stormfront and other white nationalist boards to try and assert that the Jews are the real racists for persecuting the poor Palestinians, or by Islamists who think that Israel shouldn't exist.

And I can dislike the Russian government without hating Russians.

There are racist Jews just as there are racist Palestinians. Complaining about the Israeli government is no more racist tham complaining about the leadership of the PLO.
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Postby Trumptonium » Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:13 pm

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Jhman wrote:Merkel should not have accepted those million refugees into Germany, it is nothing but a trick to create a voter base. This immigration is creating anti semitism

Asylum-recipients can vote in Germany?


Ask the 60 million Hispanics in the United States how they went from illegals to fully fledged Democrat propellants.

Not all of course, but then Reagan's amnesty gave Obama some 15 million Hispanic votes of about 22-25. Now add children to that and illegal Republican voters and pre-1986 amnesties, et al.

You think children of Jewish refugees, or first-generation Jewish refugees, in the UK today, or Vietnamese in the US, cannot vote, or what?

They'll get a vote sooner or later.
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Postby Nouveau Yathrib » Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:31 pm

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Liriena wrote:Asylum-recipients can vote in Germany?


Ask the 60 million Hispanics in the United States how they went from illegals to fully fledged Democrat propellants.

Not all of course, but then Reagan's amnesty gave Obama some 15 million Hispanic votes of about 22-25. Now add children to that and illegal Republican voters and pre-1986 amnesties, et al.

You think children of Jewish refugees, or first-generation Jewish refugees, in the UK today, or Vietnamese in the US, cannot vote, or what?

They'll get a vote sooner or later.


Most Vietnamese refugees became naturalized citizens long ago....
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Postby Trumptonium » Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:44 pm

Nouveau Yathrib wrote:
Trumptonium wrote:
Ask the 60 million Hispanics in the United States how they went from illegals to fully fledged Democrat propellants.

Not all of course, but then Reagan's amnesty gave Obama some 15 million Hispanic votes of about 22-25. Now add children to that and illegal Republican voters and pre-1986 amnesties, et al.

You think children of Jewish refugees, or first-generation Jewish refugees, in the UK today, or Vietnamese in the US, cannot vote, or what?

They'll get a vote sooner or later.


Most Vietnamese refugees became naturalized citizens long ago....


Well done, you got the point

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:45 pm

Trumptonium wrote:
Liriena wrote:Asylum-recipients can vote in Germany?


Ask the 60 million Hispanics in the United States how they went from illegals to fully fledged Democrat propellants.

Not all of course, but then Reagan's amnesty gave Obama some 15 million Hispanic votes of about 22-25. Now add children to that and illegal Republican voters and pre-1986 amnesties, et al.

You think children of Jewish refugees, or first-generation Jewish refugees, in the UK today, or Vietnamese in the US, cannot vote, or what?

They'll get a vote sooner or later.

Liriena asked about Germany, not the US.
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Postby Kramania » Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:46 pm

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I know that, I'm just wondering why you're so critical of Zionism/Israel you seem to deny Israel's right to exist.

A country founded on theft of someone else's land and persecution of the original inhabitants has no right to exist.

Jews have lived there for thousands of years.

Why do you hate the idea of a Jewish State?
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:39 pm

Kramania wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:A country founded on theft of someone else's land and persecution of the original inhabitants has no right to exist.

Jews have lived there for thousands of years.

So have Palestinians
Kramania wrote:Why do you hate the idea of a Jewish State?

When it involves oppression against non-Jews - especially my brothers and sisters - and theft of land with a sovereign state, yes. I hate it.
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Postby Kramania » Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:41 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Kramania wrote:Jews have lived there for thousands of years.

So have Palestinians

Well, they shouldn't have declared war on Israel the second it declared itself independent.
Kramania wrote:Why do you hate the idea of a Jewish State?

When it involves oppression against non-Jews - especially my brothers and sisters - and theft of land with a sovereign state, yes. I hate it.

Muslim citizens in Israel are given equal rights. It may be Jewish, but it's a secular state and people can practice their religion freely there, so I don't see your point.
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Postby Proctopeo » Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:44 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Kramania wrote:Jews have lived there for thousands of years.

So have Palestinians

Arabs have lived there for fourteen hundred years for certain; that's more than a thousand, but not plural "thousands".
Jews have lived there for at least thirty-two hundred years, over twice the time.

For the former I used the times of the conquests of the Levant, and the latter the earliest dates of Israel and Judah.

Kramania wrote:Why do you hate the idea of a Jewish State?

When it involves oppression against non-Jews - especially my brothers and sisters - and theft of land with a sovereign state, yes. I hate it.

Citing "oppression" in your argument falls flat when the surrounding states that contain your brothers and sisters are worse to their own than Israel is to them.
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Postby The Forsworn Knights » Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:48 pm

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Kubumba Tribe wrote:So have Palestinians

Arabs have lived there for fourteen hundred years for certain; that's more than a thousand, but not plural "thousands".
Jews have lived there for at least thirty-two hundred years, over twice the time.

For the former I used the times of the conquests of the Levant, and the latter the earliest dates of Israel and Judah.

When it involves oppression against non-Jews - especially my brothers and sisters - and theft of land with a sovereign state, yes. I hate it.

Citing "oppression" in your argument falls flat when the surrounding states that contain your brothers and sisters are worse to their own than Israel is to them.

Yes, but Palestine wasnt established a few decades ago when the US felt really guilty about not intervening quicker and helped an ethnic group conquer a region and begin a genocide of their own, though the situation got muddled when the Israelites then proceeded to have children who have spent their entire lives in Israel which means we cant exactly condone forcing them out either.
I mean, if any Judean group in the modern-day has any major claim to arab/egyptian lands simply for existing its the Eastern-African jews, and even that is flimsy.
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Postby Proctopeo » Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:49 pm

The Forsworn Knights wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Arabs have lived there for fourteen hundred years for certain; that's more than a thousand, but not plural "thousands".
Jews have lived there for at least thirty-two hundred years, over twice the time.

For the former I used the times of the conquests of the Levant, and the latter the earliest dates of Israel and Judah.


Citing "oppression" in your argument falls flat when the surrounding states that contain your brothers and sisters are worse to their own than Israel is to them.

Yes, but Palestine wasnt established a few decades ago when the US felt really guilty about not intervening quicker and helped an ethnic group conquer a region and begin a genocide of their own, though the situation got muddled when the Israelites then proceeded to have children who have spent their entire lives in Israel which means we cant exactly condone forcing them out either.

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Proctopeo wrote:
The Forsworn Knights wrote:Yes, but Palestine wasnt established a few decades ago when the US felt really guilty about not intervening quicker and helped an ethnic group conquer a region and begin a genocide of their own, though the situation got muddled when the Israelites then proceeded to have children who have spent their entire lives in Israel which means we cant exactly condone forcing them out either.

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Was the trail of tears not genocide? Cause that's pretty damn close to what Israel is attempting right now.
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The Forsworn Knights wrote:
Proctopeo wrote: :eyebrow:

Was the trail of tears not genocide? Cause that's pretty damn close to what Israel is attempting right now.

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Proctopeo wrote:
The Forsworn Knights wrote:Was the trail of tears not genocide? Cause that's pretty damn close to what Israel is attempting right now.

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See: Settlements and the non-stop spam of disputes of the border, with Islamic locals not exactly getting free candy and smallpox-free blankets when their lands are conquered. The Israeli government believe that god gave them that land and that therefore they have a right to use any means necessary to take the land, even if it spits in the face of victims of the holocaust.
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Postby Proctopeo » Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:56 pm

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Proctopeo wrote:(Image)

See: Settlements and the non-stop spam of disputes of the border, with Islamic locals not exactly getting free candy and smallpox-free blankets when their lands are conquered. The Israeli government believe that god gave them that land and that therefore they have a right to use any means necessary to take the land, even if it spits in the face of victims of the holocaust.

I think you're mistaking some parts of the Trail of Tears for the other parts.
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Postby MERIZoC » Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:58 pm

Kramania wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:A country founded on theft of someone else's land and persecution of the original inhabitants has no right to exist.

Jews have lived there for thousands of years.

Why do you hate the idea of a Jewish State?

Some Jews have. White-ass Ashkenazi colonialists have not.

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Proctopeo wrote:
The Forsworn Knights wrote:See: Settlements and the non-stop spam of disputes of the border, with Islamic locals not exactly getting free candy and smallpox-free blankets when their lands are conquered. The Israeli government believe that god gave them that land and that therefore they have a right to use any means necessary to take the land, even if it spits in the face of victims of the holocaust.

I think you're mistaking some parts of the Trail of Tears for the other parts.

They are doing a violent cleansing of opposing groups in the region they lay claim to. They then form Settlements, which is a common tactic in violent ethnic/religious conquest where the Settlers show up and build a homestead, one thing leads to another and the settlers are "Forced to defend themselves from the aggressive locals"™
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Postby Proctopeo » Sat Dec 23, 2017 7:02 pm

MERIZoC wrote:
Kramania wrote:Jews have lived there for thousands of years.

Why do you hate the idea of a Jewish State?

Some Jews have. White-ass Ashkenazi colonialists have not.

This is too funny to respond to seriously tbh

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Proctopeo wrote:I think you're mistaking some parts of the Trail of Tears for the other parts.

They are doing a violent cleansing of opposing groups in the region they lay claim to. They then form Settlements, which is a common tactic in violent ethnic/religious conquest where the Settlers show up and build a homestead, one thing leads to another and the settlers are "Forced to defend themselves from the aggressive locals"™

It's a very big stretch to compare it to the Trail of Tears.
It's not even a genocide, since you've failed to both properly explain how and give actual evidence for your claim.
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Postby Kramania » Sat Dec 23, 2017 7:03 pm

The Forsworn Knights wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Arabs have lived there for fourteen hundred years for certain; that's more than a thousand, but not plural "thousands".
Jews have lived there for at least thirty-two hundred years, over twice the time.

For the former I used the times of the conquests of the Levant, and the latter the earliest dates of Israel and Judah.


Citing "oppression" in your argument falls flat when the surrounding states that contain your brothers and sisters are worse to their own than Israel is to them.

Yes, but Palestine wasnt established a few decades ago when the US felt really guilty about not intervening quicker and helped an ethnic group conquer a region and begin a genocide of their own, though the situation got muddled when the Israelites then proceeded to have children who have spent their entire lives in Israel which means we cant exactly condone forcing them out either.
I mean, if any Judean group in the modern-day has any major claim to arab/egyptian lands simply for existing its the Eastern-African jews, and even that is flimsy.

Son, Israel isn't trying to genocide them. If Israel really wanted to kill them they'd already be dead. They've got more than enough military strength to do so. In fact, the Palestinians should consider themselves lucky they're facing Israel. Any other country with the kind of military capacity Israel has would have wiped them off the face of the earth by now rather than put up with their incessant bullshit.
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MERIZoC wrote:
Kramania wrote:Jews have lived there for thousands of years.

Why do you hate the idea of a Jewish State?

Some Jews have. White-ass Ashkenazi colonialists have not.

lol
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Postby Proctopeo » Sat Dec 23, 2017 7:04 pm

Kramania wrote:
MERIZoC wrote:Some Jews have. White-ass Ashkenazi colonialists have not.

lol

Wait, Ashkenazi... Nazi... it all makes sense now!
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Postby MERIZoC » Sat Dec 23, 2017 7:05 pm

Kramania wrote:
MERIZoC wrote:Some Jews have. White-ass Ashkenazi colonialists have not.

lol

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Proctopeo wrote:
MERIZoC wrote:Some Jews have. White-ass Ashkenazi colonialists have not.

This is too funny to respond to seriously tbh

The Forsworn Knights wrote:They are doing a violent cleansing of opposing groups in the region they lay claim to. They then form Settlements, which is a common tactic in violent ethnic/religious conquest where the Settlers show up and build a homestead, one thing leads to another and the settlers are "Forced to defend themselves from the aggressive locals"™

It's a very big stretch to compare it to the Trail of Tears.
It's not even a genocide, since you've failed to both properly explain how and give actual evidence for your claim.

How is Merizoc's statement too funny to respond to? Most of what we currently consider Israeli are Ashkenazis, meaning Jews whose ancestors have been in Europe/the americas for hundreds of years until they finally ended up back in Israel as conquering colonists.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Dec 23, 2017 7:06 pm

Kramania wrote:
The Forsworn Knights wrote:Yes, but Palestine wasnt established a few decades ago when the US felt really guilty about not intervening quicker and helped an ethnic group conquer a region and begin a genocide of their own, though the situation got muddled when the Israelites then proceeded to have children who have spent their entire lives in Israel which means we cant exactly condone forcing them out either.
I mean, if any Judean group in the modern-day has any major claim to arab/egyptian lands simply for existing its the Eastern-African jews, and even that is flimsy.

Son, Israel isn't trying to genocide them. If Israel really wanted to kill them they'd already be dead. They've got more than enough military strength to do so. In fact, the Palestinians should consider themselves lucky they're facing Israel. Any other country with the kind of military capacity Israel has would have wiped them off the face of the earth by now rather than put up with their incessant bullshit.


If that were true then Ireland would be far more sparsely populated....

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Postby Bakery Hill » Sat Dec 23, 2017 7:06 pm

Kramania wrote:
MERIZoC wrote:Some Jews have. White-ass Ashkenazi colonialists have not.

lol

Can you and others explain what you disagree with here? It looks like common sense to me, no matter what side of the argument you're on.
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