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Postby Greater Cesnica » Fri Dec 22, 2017 10:13 pm

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Mhm...where was this?

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Postby Liriena » Fri Dec 22, 2017 10:14 pm

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Kubumba Tribe wrote:Criticism of zionism/Israel =/= anti-Judaism/anti-Jewish.


I've been around too many Neo Nazis to know that "Anti-Zionism" is more often than not a mask for Anti-Semitism to hide behind. It's the same with Muslim students on campus.

I do agree that it's a very, very fine line, given the history behind the use of the term Zionism.
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Postby Zanera » Fri Dec 22, 2017 10:22 pm

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Mhm...where was this?

Hamilton, Ontario.


Move Canada up one on the list then...

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Postby Petrasylvania » Fri Dec 22, 2017 10:37 pm

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Kubumba Tribe wrote:Criticism of zionism/Israel =/= anti-Judaism/anti-Jewish.


I've been around too many Neo Nazis to know that "Anti-Zionism" is more often than not a mask for Anti-Semitism to hide behind. It's the same with Muslim students on campus.

So complaining that the Israeli government looks the other way when Jewish settlers ethnically cleanse Palestinians from fertile lands is the same as getting a hardon from Holocaust documentaries now?
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Postby Nouveau Yathrib » Fri Dec 22, 2017 10:41 pm

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Kubumba Tribe wrote:Criticism of zionism/Israel =/= anti-Judaism/anti-Jewish.


I've been around too many Neo Nazis to know that "Anti-Zionism" is more often than not a mask for Anti-Semitism to hide behind. It's the same with Muslim students on campus.


Shame the professor resorted to slurs and name-calling at 3:14, he had the moral high ground up until then.
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Postby Shikihara » Fri Dec 22, 2017 10:47 pm

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I've been around too many Neo Nazis to know that "Anti-Zionism" is more often than not a mask for Anti-Semitism to hide behind. It's the same with Muslim students on campus.

So complaining that the Israeli government looks the other way when Jewish settlers ethnically cleanse Palestinians from fertile lands is the same as getting a hardon from Holocaust documentaries now?


That same rhetoric that you use can be seen on Stormfront and other white nationalist boards to try and assert that the Jews are the real racists for persecuting the poor Palestinians, or by Islamists who think that Israel shouldn't exist.
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Postby Shikihara » Fri Dec 22, 2017 10:50 pm

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I've been around too many Neo Nazis to know that "Anti-Zionism" is more often than not a mask for Anti-Semitism to hide behind. It's the same with Muslim students on campus.


Shame the professor resorted to slurs and name-calling at 3:14, he had the moral high ground up until then.


Most people aren't cold rational machines who can ignore the fact that the extremist in front of them wants them and their loved ones "slaughtered," in the words that she agreed with. He had the moral high ground both before and after.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Fri Dec 22, 2017 10:57 pm

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Petrasylvania wrote:So complaining that the Israeli government looks the other way when Jewish settlers ethnically cleanse Palestinians from fertile lands is the same as getting a hardon from Holocaust documentaries now?


That same rhetoric that you use can be seen on Stormfront and other white nationalist boards to try and assert that the Jews are the real racists for persecuting the poor Palestinians, or by Islamists who think that Israel shouldn't exist.

Like white nationalists give a shit about darkies beyond useful talking points to rant against Jews.
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Postby USS Monitor » Sat Dec 23, 2017 1:08 am

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Pugglandia wrote:i am glad this is happening again. the people need to wake up before the white race is destroyed

wakey wakey eggs and anti-semitism


Can I have some pancakes instead of the antisemitism? :unsure:
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Postby USS Monitor » Sat Dec 23, 2017 1:20 am

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Pugglandia wrote:i am glad this is happening again. the people need to wake up before the white race is destroyed

I would claim white sub species, as when you go through history unfortunately. Most ethnicities is only a name or label for the sub species of modern man, as all modernized man mixed with a different group of homosapiens. Like white people mixed with neanderthals and etc. So in truth most humans are sub species of the modern man. However in the end, when you consider it. No sub species of man, whether white or black or for asians tan colored should be entirely killed off. After all, like it or not. Historically we are all connected by the fact of modernized man.

Added in: Though if we wanna get more historical and scientific, then white is not truly white but a peach color to the skin. J/S.


Human races aren't genetically different enough to be "subspecies" the way that word is normally used.
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Postby USS Monitor » Sat Dec 23, 2017 1:25 am

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Kubumba Tribe wrote:...Muslims are not anti-Jewish...


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Depends on the Muslim. I've met some Muslims who were fine, but then you see the idiots that go around killing each other in the Middle East and it's a whole other story.
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Principality of the Raix wrote:I would claim white sub species, as when you go through history unfortunately. Most ethnicities is only a name or label for the sub species of modern man, as all modernized man mixed with a different group of homosapiens. Like white people mixed with neanderthals and etc. So in truth most humans are sub species of the modern man. However in the end, when you consider it. No sub species of man, whether white or black or for asians tan colored should be entirely killed off. After all, like it or not. Historically we are all connected by the fact of modernized man.

Added in: Though if we wanna get more historical and scientific, then white is not truly white but a peach color to the skin. J/S.


Human races aren't genetically different enough to be "subspecies" the way that word is normally used.

If we are being technical, there are no human races either. Homo Sapiens Idaltu died out a while ago.
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Depends on the Muslim. I've met some Muslims who were fine, but then you see the idiots that go around killing each other in the Middle East and it's a whole other story.


Considering "jew" is often used as an expletive by western muslims... not just there.
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Depends on the Muslim. I've met some Muslims who were fine, but then you see the idiots that go around killing each other in the Middle East and it's a whole other story.


Considering "jew" is often used as an expletive by western muslims... not just there.

Anti semitism isn't a muslim thing and in the past Christians were intolerant of Jews and Muslims were tolerant

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Postby Minoa » Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:32 am

I thoughts is exactly as follows:

I want to know, when will the politics of hate retreat again? I thought we were done with the politics of racism and hate, given the impact of the Holocaust.
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Postby Fascesia » Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:37 am

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Considering "jew" is often used as an expletive by western muslims... not just there.

Anti semitism isn't a muslim thing and in the past Christians were intolerant of Jews and Muslims were tolerant

Yes in the past
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Senegalboy wrote:Anti semitism isn't a muslim thing and in the past Christians were intolerant of Jews and Muslims were tolerant

Yes in the past


>implying that Christians don't do intolerance of Jews and Muslims now
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Postby Senegalboy » Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:41 am

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Senegalboy wrote:Anti semitism isn't a muslim thing and in the past Christians were intolerant of Jews and Muslims were tolerant

Yes in the past

So why do people blame Muslims for anti-semitism
Some Muslims are intolerant and anti-semitic but so are some White Germans.

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Vassenor wrote:
Fascesia wrote:Yes in the past


>implying that Christians don't do intolerance of Jews and Muslims now


It‘s about intolerance against jews actually.
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Fascesia wrote:Yes in the past

So why do people blame Muslims for anti-semitism
Some Muslims are intolerant and anti-semitic but so are some White Germans.


I don‘t even f*cking know. Western media thinks anti-zionism = anti-semitism, but it isn‘t
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Minoa wrote:I thoughts is exactly as follows:

I want to know, when will the politics of hate retreat again? I thought we were done with the politics of racism and hate, given the impact of the Holocaust.

When the hatemongers will be scared into hiding again. Until then, they aren't going to stop. The only thing they understand is fear.
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Senegalboy wrote:So why do people blame Muslims for anti-semitism
Some Muslims are intolerant and anti-semitic but so are some White Germans.


Are Muslims and non-muslim germans anti-semitic to about the same extent? Is antisemitism, proportionally, as common among non-muslims as it is among muslims?
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:16 am

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Kubumba Tribe wrote:Criticism of zionism/Israel =/= anti-Judaism/anti-Jewish.


I've been around too many Neo Nazis to know that "Anti-Zionism" is more often than not a mask for Anti-Semitism to hide behind. It's the same with Muslim students on campus.

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Postby Senegalboy » Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:29 am

Des-Bal wrote:
Senegalboy wrote:So why do people blame Muslims for anti-semitism
Some Muslims are intolerant and anti-semitic but so are some White Germans.


Are Muslims and non-muslim germans anti-semitic to about the same extent? Is antisemitism, proportionally, as common among non-muslims as it is among muslims?

No Germans who are not muslims are less anti-semitic but due to guilt of the Genocide of 6-8 million Jews in the Gas chambers funded by the Nazi government of Germany known as the Holocaust

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Postby Des-Bal » Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:03 am

Senegalboy wrote:No Germans who are not muslims are less anti-semitic but due to guilt of the Genocide of 6-8 million Jews in the Gas chambers funded by the Nazi government of Germany known as the Holocaust


I'm going to ignore the parts of that that didn't matter. You're saying that muslim germans are more anti-semetic than non muslim germans. I don't understand why earlier you were confused that people are attributing anti-semitism to muslims.
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