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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:44 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Pugglandia wrote:i am glad this is happening again. the people need to wake up before the white race is destroyed

Ah yes, the white race victim complex.

No one wants to destroy the white race, and no one should ever want to destroy any race.


I wouldn't say no one wants to. Just look at all the articles that get posted here every other week where people say being white is horrible or it's not okay to be white etc etc. Never underestimate how silly some people can be.
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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Does it matter?
Anti-Semitism in Germany is still Anti-Semitism in Germany.

I said It was coming from a source and wanted to hold the alt-rights feet to the fire for it.

Why just the Alt-Rights? Why do Muslims get off scot-free while the AltRight are made to pay?

Article gives them part of the blame, I might as well emphasize the Alt rights contribution.
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Postby Principality of the Raix » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:45 pm

Kramania wrote: Antisemitism is antisemitism, regardless of where it comes from. Jew-hating is the same shit at the end of the day.


Only wanna look at those lines and say, that this is all true. No matter how you toss the coin, or change parties to be "justified". This rings true at the end of the day.
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Kramania wrote: Antisemitism is antisemitism, regardless of where it comes from. Jew-hating is the same shit at the end of the day.


Only wanna look at those lines and say, that this is all true. No matter how you toss the coin, or change parties to be "justified". This rings true at the end of the day.

Antisemitism always ends the same way. Jews being tortured, exiled, or killed.
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Postby Kennlind » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:48 pm

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Kennlind wrote:Nope. I'm calling them out over their politicization of an issue like this.

Seems more like you're nitpicking. Antisemitism is antisemitism, regardless of where it comes from. Jew-hating is the same shit at the end of the day.

You're echoing exactly what I've been saying. Hopefully since it's you saying it, your friend will listen.

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Kennlind wrote:Why just the Alt-Rights? Why do Muslims get off scot-free while the AltRight are made to pay?

Article gives them part of the blame, I might as well emphasize the Alt rights contribution.

So you're admitting to using the hatred and discrimination of the Jewish people for your own political gain? How do you benefit from the AltRight's anti-semitism being called out and how do you lose from Islamic Radical's/Islamist's anti-semitism being called out?
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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Ah yes, the white race victim complex.

No one wants to destroy the white race, and no one should ever want to destroy any race.


I wouldn't say no one wants to. Just look at all the articles that get posted here every other week where people say being white is horrible or it's not okay to be white etc etc. Never underestimate how silly some people can be.

Well this is true, there is a sole hatred against the white sub species of man. However, why this is can not be truly thought out beyond the fact of war and religion. I mean look at these two things, this is what fuels it for the most part. While I do admit a lot of the wars, that were not white on white basically meaning anything before 10 A.D in Europe. Religions and Nations hate us, due to wars that we brought to them after the birth of christ basically and the fall of rome. After all for some reason everyone loved rome, except the slaves of course. However the more we delve into the history, the more blurred the lines are. After all, you got white traits all over the world and removing them will do nothing from killing the species as we seeing as I am white will live on. In the blue eyes of every asian, african and arabian. Seeing as Blue eyes is actually an evolved trait within the last 1,000 years. However at the same time, it came first to ironically white people whom tend to spread it.
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Postby Kramania » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:49 pm

Kennlind wrote:
Kramania wrote:Seems more like you're nitpicking. Antisemitism is antisemitism, regardless of where it comes from. Jew-hating is the same shit at the end of the day.

You're echoing exactly what I've been saying. Hopefully since it's you saying it, your friend will listen.

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Article gives them part of the blame, I might as well emphasize the Alt rights contribution.

So you're admitting to using the hatred and discrimination of the Jewish people for your own political gain? How do you benefit from the AltRight's anti-semitism being called out and how do you lose from Islamic Radical's/Islamist's anti-semitism being called out?

Herp isn't ignoring it, dude. He's just making note of Alt-Right contributions to antisemitism. You're trying to make something out of nothing.
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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Ah yes, the white race victim complex.

No one wants to destroy the white race, and no one should ever want to destroy any race.


I wouldn't say no one wants to. Just look at all the articles that get posted here every other week where people say being white is horrible or it's not okay to be white etc etc. Never underestimate how silly some people can be.

I don't really see that here?

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Article gives them part of the blame, I might as well emphasize the Alt rights contribution.

So you're admitting to using the hatred and discrimination of the Jewish people for your own political gain? How do you benefit from the AltRight's anti-semitism being called out and how do you lose from Islamic Radical's/Islamist's anti-semitism being called out?


No, just saying that the alt right did some Anti-Semitism in Germany again, and that pisses me off.

I don't and I don't.

If I didn't want the Islamic Radical's to get away Scot free, then why did I not edit the op to make it seem like the alt right who was doing all of the blaming when I copy and pasted the entire article?
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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Kennlind wrote:Why just the Alt-Rights? Why do Muslims get off scot-free while the AltRight are made to pay?

Article gives them part of the blame, I might as well emphasize the Alt rights contribution.


But that means people not virtue signalling as hard about the evils of Islam.
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Postby Kennlind » Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:12 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I wouldn't say no one wants to. Just look at all the articles that get posted here every other week where people say being white is horrible or it's not okay to be white etc etc. Never underestimate how silly some people can be.

I don't really see that here?

Kennlind wrote:

So you're admitting to using the hatred and discrimination of the Jewish people for your own political gain? How do you benefit from the AltRight's anti-semitism being called out and how do you lose from Islamic Radical's/Islamist's anti-semitism being called out?


No, just saying that the alt right did some Anti-Semitism in Germany again, and that pisses me off.

I don't and I don't.

If I didn't want the Islamic Radical's to get away Scot free, then why did I not edit the op to make it seem like the alt right who was doing all of the blaming when I copy and pasted the entire article?

You spoiled the article and

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Article gives them part of the blame, I might as well emphasize the Alt rights contribution.


But that means people not virtue signalling as hard about the evils of Islam.

I literally just said it shouldn't be specified whether they're Muslim or AltRight but hey, you are the most intelligent and superior poster on NSG, and you must be allowed to make smug/pretentious comments about people no matter the accuracy of them!
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:26 pm

Al-Islam is not a warrior's religion, Muslims are not anti-Jewish, white people are not being genocided, and Herp is doing just fine as he is. He is not anti-Jewish.
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Vassenor wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Article gives them part of the blame, I might as well emphasize the Alt rights contribution.


But that means people not virtue signalling as hard about the evils of Islam.

Tbf it was a bit weird to say "anti-semitism is in Germany again" and then focus on only one source of it in the non-quoted part of the OP.
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Postby Kramania » Fri Dec 22, 2017 4:13 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:Al-Islam is not a warrior's religion

Really?

Muslims are not anti-Jewish

Have you seen the statistics on antisemitism in the Muslim world?

and Herp is doing just fine as he is. He is not anti-Jewish.

Agreed.
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Kubumba Tribe wrote:...Muslims are not anti-Jewish...


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Kubumba Tribe wrote:Al-Islam is not a warrior's religion

Maybe not, but Mohammed was a warlord, to put it bluntly.

Muslims are not anti-Jewish

Not intrinsically, but you can't deny the prevalence of antisemitism in the Muslim world, especially in the Middle East and the surrounding region.
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Liriena wrote:Or maybe we genuinely, legitimately see something really wrong with the Israeli state's behavior?


Maybe. But I see such ferverent criticism of the most pluralistic and tolerant state in the whole Middle East, which shows extraordinary restraint in the face of regular terrorist attacks, as surely very ideologically biased rather than based on the real.

That Israel is comparatively better than Saudi Arabia does not mean Israel cannot be harshy criticized for its own human rights violations.
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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Sause

BERLIN — When telecommunications manager Mikhail Tanaev emigrated to Germany in 1998 from his native Russia as a teen, his Jewish faith didn't matter to classmates or neighbors.

That's because Germany has taken extraordinary steps since the end of World War II to atone for the Holocaust and prevent anti-Semitism from taking hold again. The country has paid reparations to Jewish victims of Nazi persecution, erected dozens of memorials to those murdered and turned anti-Semitic speech into a crime.

Yet Chancellor Angela Merkel’s decision in 2015 to open the nation's arms to 1 million mostly Muslim refugees has created a double threat for Germany's roughly 120,000 Jews: rising anti-Semitism from the newcomers and a resurgent right-wing nationalist movement spawned by the arrival of so many immigrants.

The anti-Semitic sentiment has become more pubic and virulent, said Tanaev, 32. "When I arrived in Germany ... I never saw such displays."

Last week, thousands of protesters in Berlin burned Israeli flags to protest President Trump's controversial decision on Dec. 7 to recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital. The flag-burning prompted a national outcry.


"I never thought that could happen in the middle of Berlin. That's something you see in other parts of the world. It's really disturbing," Tanaev said. "It feels like we're being threatened because you never know how people will react further when something like this occurs."

Other instances of anti-Semitism in Germany have become more common and brazen recently. Last month, thieves in Berlin made off with more than a dozen cobblestone-sized plaques embedded in sidewalks memorializing victims of the Holocaust. And the German military found Nazi memorabilia in soldiers' barracks over the summer.

In 2016, Germany recorded 1,468 anti-Semitic incidents, an increase from previous years that has put Germany's Jewish community on edge, According to a recent survey by the University of Bielefeld in western Germany, 62% of Jewish respondents said they experience anti-Semitism in their everyday lives, while 28% said they were victims of verbal attacks or harassment in the past year.

The survey points to increased anti-Semitism by Muslim newcomers and a strengthened right-wing nativist movement, said Andreas Zick, who led the study.

Underscoring that trend is the rise of the anti-immigrant Alternative for Germany (AfD), now the third-largest political party in parliament four years after its founding. The AfD drums up support with nationalist and anti-Semitic rhetoric.

"Germans are the only people in the world who plant a monument of shame in the heart of the capital," senior AfD member Björn Höcke said this year about the Memorial to the Murdered Jews of Europe in Berlin.

Other party members want Nazi soldiers remembered as patriots.

Zick also noted anti-Semitic remarks posted on social media by right-wing groups. The comments fuel misconceptions among new immigrants that Germany tolerates such behavior, despite strict laws requiring social media giants such as Facebook to delete posts categorized as hate speech, he said.

"There's a lot of evidence from our studies that the Internet and young Muslim men in public are threatening (Jews),” Zick said. “Refugees coming in don't perceive that there's a strong norm against anti-Semitism.”

Such sentiments prompted a Jewish community center in Berlin to launch an initiative to combat anti-Semitism.

"Here, we put in concrete terms that 'the Jew' is actually a normal person — that he looks like you and is someone you can have a normal conversation with," said Rabbi Daniel Fabian of the Kahal Adass Jisroel Jewish community center and synagogue.

Members of the community center have been spit on and harassed in predominately Muslim neighborhoods since 2014, Fabian said. And his synagogue recently received a bomb threat from right-wing radicals. The compound housing the synagogue and community center are now under 24-hour police surveillance.

Jewish leaders are pushing for changes in the education system to head off anti-Semitism, including history lessons with visits to concentration camps. Bavaria is the only German state that now requires such visits.

"We are looking for modern means to convey what has happened and to keep the memory alive," said Josef Schuster, president of Germany's Central Council of Jews.

Tanaev said it also is important to draw parallels between the history of Jewish immigration and the current influx of newcomers. "That's the history of our people, and it's important to show others that fact," he said.

Fabian, whose grandmother was in the Auschwitz concentration camp during World War II, called for support from Muslim groups as well as the government to fight anti-Semitism.

“We can't be the only ones who are constantly reminding everyone else to look at what's happening right under your noses," he said.


Oh for fuck's sake Alt right, this shit again?


And yes, lets get this out of the way, yes, not everyone in the alt right is a raciest, sexiest, homophobe, whatever.


But you have to admit theirs at least some of them who are that way. And there very vocal about it.


But what do you think NSG?

Gee, it's almost like importing people from a famously anti-Semitic part of the world will breed anti-semitism.

Merkel's a fucking twit. Importing people and acting surprised when Jew-hating makes a comeback.

People are not trade goods, so this "importing people" cliché is nothing but dehumanization.
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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Ah yes, the white race victim complex.

No one wants to destroy the white race, and no one should ever want to destroy any race.


I wouldn't say no one wants to. Just look at all the articles that get posted here every other week where people say being white is horrible or it's not okay to be white etc etc. Never underestimate how silly some people can be.

That doesn't sound like good sampling. :P
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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:And yes, lets get this out of the way, yes, not everyone in the alt right is a raciest, sexiest, homophobe, whatever.

Umm... yes, they are. Almost by definition.
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Postby Proctopeo » Fri Dec 22, 2017 4:56 pm

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Maybe. But I see such ferverent criticism of the most pluralistic and tolerant state in the whole Middle East, which shows extraordinary restraint in the face of regular terrorist attacks, as surely very ideologically biased rather than based on the real.

That Israel is comparatively better than Saudi Arabia does not mean Israel cannot be harshy criticized for its own human rights violations.

I'm personally disappointed that the UN doesn't condemn Saudi Arabia or any other country in the Middle East nearly as much as they condemn Israel.

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:And yes, lets get this out of the way, yes, not everyone in the alt right is a raciest, sexiest, homophobe, whatever.

Umm... yes, they are. Almost by definition.

Racist, maybe, but I'd say that not all of them are sexist or homophobic or whatever.
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Proctopeo wrote:I'm personally disappointed that the UN doesn't condemn Saudi Arabia or any other country in the Middle East nearly as much as they condemn Israel.

Ironically enough, it seems to be all our allies that seem to condemn Israel. I just look at it as the U.N basically being the new Nazi in a manner, when you consider how they knit pick issues that only help themselves and not (oh i don't know) the world. We can say the same thing about any country though with any hint of antisemitism, however these are not a nation. But a group of nations in one council more or less. :ugeek:
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Liriena wrote:That Israel is comparatively better than Saudi Arabia does not mean Israel cannot be harshy criticized for its own human rights violations.

I'm personally disappointed that the UN doesn't condemn Saudi Arabia or any other country in the Middle East nearly as much as they condemn Israel.

Same.

Proctopeo wrote:Racist, maybe, but I'd say that not all of them are sexist or homophobic or whatever.

I'd say they are sexist and homophobic, etc., as well. Sure, they are happy to virtue signal when it's Muslims being sexist or homophobic, or prop up a token person (like the notoriously untalented former token gay of Breitbart) to deflect from the substance of their ideas... but scratch the surface and their underlying worldview is just as hostile to "degenerates" and non-traditional womanhood as it is to other races. Even their token people will inevitably crack now and then and reveal that, yes, they do in fact oppose LGBT+ rights and women's rights... just not in a "Muslim" way *wink wink*.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:08 pm

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:I don't really see that here?



No, just saying that the alt right did some Anti-Semitism in Germany again, and that pisses me off.

I don't and I don't.

If I didn't want the Islamic Radical's to get away Scot free, then why did I not edit the op to make it seem like the alt right who was doing all of the blaming when I copy and pasted the entire article?

You spoiled the article and

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But that means people not virtue signalling as hard about the evils of Islam.

I literally just said it shouldn't be specified whether they're Muslim or AltRight but hey, you are the most intelligent and superior poster on NSG, and you must be allowed to make smug/pretentious comments about people no matter the accuracy of them!



Yes I spoiled it beacuse I don't want the OP to be a million miles long.

If it shouldn't be specified, then why are you calling me a antisemitic?
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Postby Proctopeo » Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:11 pm

Principality of the Raix wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:I'm personally disappointed that the UN doesn't condemn Saudi Arabia or any other country in the Middle East nearly as much as they condemn Israel.

Ironically enough, it seems to be all our allies that seem to condemn Israel. I just look at it as the U.N basically being the new Nazi in a manner, when you consider how they knit pick issues that only help themselves and not (oh i don't know) the world. We can say the same thing about any country though with any hint of antisemitism, however these are not a nation. But a group of nations in one council more or less. :ugeek:

I wouldn't go so far as to call them "the new Nazi", but it's certainly curious.
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Liriena wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:I'm personally disappointed that the UN doesn't condemn Saudi Arabia or any other country in the Middle East nearly as much as they condemn Israel.

Same.

Good thing we're on the same page here.

Proctopeo wrote:Racist, maybe, but I'd say that not all of them are sexist or homophobic or whatever.

I'd say they are sexist and homophobic, etc., as well. Sure, they are happy to virtue signal when it's Muslims being sexist or homophobic, or prop up a token person (like the notoriously untalented former token gay of Breitbart) to deflect from the substance of their ideas... but scratch the surface and their underlying worldview is just as hostile to "degenerates" and non-traditional womanhood as it is to other races. Even their token people will inevitably crack now and then and reveal that, yes, they do in fact oppose LGBT+ rights and women's rights... just not in a "Muslim" way *wink wink*.

Eh, well, remember: the "alt-right" is loosely defined, and within the scope of "far-rightists that reject modern conservatism in favor of white nationalism", there's much possibility for variance. Much like how "far-left internationalism" has a wide degree of variance.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:14 pm

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Kubumba Tribe wrote:Al-Islam is not a warrior's religion

Maybe not, but Mohammed was a warlord, to put it bluntly.

He (SAWS) was a prophet, a businessman, a father, a husband, a leader, a hafiz, a diplomat, a giver, a leader and a veteran. The Prophet Muhammad (SAWS) was not a warlord.
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Kubumba Tribe wrote:Al-Islam is not a warrior's religion

Really?

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