Roman History General Discussion

[The Parkus Empire]

Most ancient literature must have been good, since 99.999% did not get the copius, continuous copying necessary to preserve it until the Renaissance.

Nice work on completely missing the point of my clarification to TEM who made the exact same accusation. Is it fun being deliberately obtuse?

Also, 99.99%? Most estimates have only 90% lost at most.

Estimates which factor out writing that did not get many copies to begin with.

[The Parkus Empire]

I like Caesar. Its an entirely subjective view - I just find him pretty damn charismatic.

Basically the Andrew Jackson of Rome if Jackson used the military to make himself dictator for life.

[Thaioggdol]

My favorite Holy Roman Emperor was Fredrick 1, he's better than Charlemagne in my opinion


Wait... I am thinking of the wrong Rome, aren't I?

[The East Marches II]

"I didn't copy this because it was too good and caused people to doubt the lerd."

"You're just saying it was good because it no longer exists. =^)"

Clearly it was perceived as good (or rather, evil) even by his opponents.

See what I mean, teenager logic. "If it's banned it must be good!"

It was more likely that he sucked as an Emperor, sucked at generaling and people thought a loser wasn't worth recording for the future.

That's his only attraction to those not fond of the influence of Christanity. You could at least choose somebody who doesn't Rambo legions as your champion. That's his main attraction.

Ten years of more or less continuous combat experience before his campaign v. Sixteen scattered across twenty-five years? Come now, TEM, be reasonable.

>10 years

I don't think so Tim. 6 if we are being generous and more like 4 of any fighting. You are desperate to defend a man with a trash record. I am being reasonable by treating a garbage argument comparing Caesar and Julian of being close to each other in military experience when first starting out seriously instead laughing it off.

[The Parkus Empire]

My favorite Holy Roman Emperor was Fredrick 1, he's better than Charlemagne in my opinion


Wait... I am thinking of the wrong Rome, aren't I?

No, just the wrong empire

[The East Marches II]

My favorite Holy Roman Emperor was Fredrick 1, he's better than Charlemagne in my opinion


Wait... I am thinking of the wrong Rome, aren't I?

No, just the wrong empire

It's a well known fact the HRE was the true successors of Rome

[The Parkus Empire]

No, just the wrong empire

It's a well known fact the HRE was the true successors of Rome

They were a Republic?

[Thaioggdol]

It's a well known fact the HRE was the true successors of Rome

They were a Republic?

After the Habsburgs came to power no.

[Astrolinium]

It's a well known fact the HRE was the true successors of Rome

They were a Republic?

Rome was a Republic?

[The East Marches II]

It's a well known fact the HRE was the true successors of Rome

They were a Republic?

The fusion of both sides of Rome :^)

Also please don't believe Voltaire's slander thank you

[Thaioggdol]

They were a Republic?

The fusion of both sides of Rome :^)

Also please don't believe Voltaire's slander thank you

Well, I agree with 1/3

The Holy Roman Empire was NOT holy

[The Parkus Empire]

They were a Republic?

The fusion of both sides of Rome :^)

Also please don't believe Voltaire's slander thank you

Anything Voltaire says I presume is bs until it's exonerated. All his work should be printed in green

[The Parkus Empire]

The fusion of both sides of Rome :^)

Also please don't believe Voltaire's slander thank you

Well, I agree with 1/3

The Holy Roman Empire was NOT holy

Outlawed, or tried to outlaw, slavery in the new world.

[The East Marches II]

The fusion of both sides of Rome :^)

Also please don't believe Voltaire's slander thank you

Anything Voltaire says I presume is bs until it's exonerated. All his work should be printed in green

Finally somebody who gets it. His shitposts still make it into reputable sources and books unfortunately.

[The Parkus Empire]

Anything Voltaire says I presume is bs until it's exonerated. All his work should be printed in green

Finally somebody who gets it. His shitposts still make it into reputable sources and books unfortunately.

Reputable, heh heh.

Although let us be frank. The HRE was the EU of its time.

[The East Marches II]

Finally somebody who gets it. His shitposts still make it into reputable sources and books unfortunately.

Reputable, heh heh.

Although let us be frank. The HRE was the EU of its time.

The HRE was a bad joke, I agree entirely

[Thaioggdol]

Reputable, heh heh.

Although let us be frank. The HRE was the EU of its time.

The HRE was a bad joke, I agree entirely

I second this

[Imperial Valaran]

I like Caesar. Its an entirely subjective view - I just find him pretty damn charismatic.

Basically the Andrew Jackson of Rome if Jackson used the military to make himself dictator for life.

Naturally, this wouldn't be my view of him.

[The Transhuman Union]

Reputable, heh heh.

Although let us be frank. The HRE was the EU of its time.

The HRE was a bad joke, I agree entirely

HRE was good in theory, but seriously bad in practice to be honest.

[The Parkus Empire]

Reputable, heh heh.

Although let us be frank. The HRE was the EU of its time.

The HRE was a bad joke, I agree entirely

And it exalted a comedian to be considered a philosopher.

"What's the deal with the Holy Roman Empire?"

[Conserative Morality]

See what I mean, teenager logic. "If it's banned it must be good!"

"If the argument used to ban it is that it was too good, that means that it was recognized, even by the people who wanted to ban it, as being good, which suggests that it was probably good by a contemporary standard."

Come now TEM you're better than this.

It was more likely that he sucked as an Emperor, sucked at generaling and people thought a loser wasn't worth recording for the future.

That's his only attraction to those not fond of the influence of Christanity. You could at least choose somebody who doesn't Rambo legions as your champion. That's his main attraction.

>> man of the common people
>> primus inter pares even after Constantine and Diocletian's attempts to make Rome into a proper-style eastern monarchy
>> spoke among the Senate as though they still had power
>> championed reform of coinage to restore the monetary economy
>> witty
>> beloved by his men
>> "Y-you only like him because he countered Christianity"

get out

[Pope Joan]

Some say that elements of the Roman Empire live on in the Catholic Church

https://www.bja.gov/evaluation/guide/do ... _evalu.htm

and I agree

[Shikihara]

Where are those tracts? All hype and fanboyism over nothing with proofs. It's teenager logic. "If it wasn't copied it must be good!"

The fact that Julian's stuff only survives today because it was transcribed by Christian scholars is probably one of the greatest ironies of all time.

[The Parkus Empire]

Some say that elements of the Roman Empire live on in the Catholic Church

https://www.bja.gov/evaluation/guide/do ... _evalu.htm

and I agree

Though pagan morality is coming out of liberal theology

[Shikihara]

Some say that elements of the Roman Empire live on in the Catholic Church

https://www.bja.gov/evaluation/guide/do ... _evalu.htm

and I agree

Though pagan morality is coming out of liberal theology

No, it's not. Pagan morality was heavily patriarchal and warlike.