The State of the Democratic Party II

[Thermodolia]

I think those who give Gabbard adoration and those who hate Gabbard are both missing the point. She's a fairly good congresswoman, one with some weird ties to certain weird religious organizations. Honestly, I don't like that, but I don't dislike her for that alone. She has some bad policy positions, some really good ones, and some decent ones.

I think, though, we should keep Gabbard in the House, where she has the ability to get some good work done.

Gabbard has had weirder and weirder stuff come out about her since her time in the sun when everything thought she might be like the heir apparent/young female version of Bernie or whatever. Let's go with Booker as a safer alternative- or, if you want a female veteran of color, Duckworth.

I don’t want Gabbard because she’s a female veteran of color, way too much IdPol, I want her because I like her political stances.

[Thermodolia]

Or we could avoid that path like the plague it is...

What's wrong with Duckworth? She's hardly an ideologue, and being a veteran is always a boost.

Oh, is it the "woman of color" bit you have an issue with? Makes sense.

Right Telconi is the racist one here, not the poster wanting a woman to be president based on her skin color

[Valrifell]

What's wrong with Duckworth? She's hardly an ideologue, and being a veteran is always a boost.

Oh, is it the "woman of color" bit you have an issue with? Makes sense.

Right Telconi is the racist one here, not the poster wanting a woman to be president based on her skin color

It's not racist to want women of color in office.

[Senkaku]

What's wrong with Duckworth? She's hardly an ideologue, and being a veteran is always a boost.

Oh, is it the "woman of color" bit you have an issue with? Makes sense.

"W-Well you're the real racist and sexist for pointing out that racism and sexism is bad!"

Yeah, okay...

You're the one going on about racism and sexism, mate. But Duckworth is a veteran and she isn't a far-left ideologue (something I would've thought you'd be on board with), while her being a woman of color may get some of the progressive wing to shut the fuck up if Biden were the hypothetical nominee.

Gabbard has had weirder and weirder stuff come out about her since her time in the sun when everything thought she might be like the heir apparent/young female version of Bernie or whatever. Let's go with Booker as a safer alternative- or, if you want a female veteran of color, Duckworth.

I don’t want Gabbard because she’s a female veteran of color, way too much IdPol, I want her because I like her political stances.

She wouldn't be like a dealbreaker for me, I'm just not on board with all of her stuff.

[Major-Tom]

I think those who give Gabbard adoration and those who hate Gabbard are both missing the point. She's a fairly good congresswoman, one with some weird ties to certain weird religious organizations. Honestly, I don't like that, but I don't dislike her for that alone. She has some bad policy positions, some really good ones, and some decent ones.

I think, though, we should keep Gabbard in the House, where she has the ability to get some good work done.

lol in what way

Being behind some sensible ideas in regards to marijuana, civil liberties, and foreign policy. *shrugs.*

As I said, she isn't great, I wouldn't want her as Pres, hence why I say keep her in the House.

[Telconi]

Right Telconi is the racist one here, not the poster wanting a woman to be president based on her skin color

It's not racist to want women of color in office.

If any part of that want is based upon the 'of color' part, then yeah, it is. Just as it's sexist if any part of the want is based on the 'woman' part.

[Senkaku]

What's wrong with Duckworth? She's hardly an ideologue, and being a veteran is always a boost.

Oh, is it the "woman of color" bit you have an issue with? Makes sense.

Right Telconi is the racist one here, not the poster wanting a woman to be president based on her skin color

...I was suggesting she be a VP for Biden, and in what universe was I suggesting that the United States senator and military veteran's only qualification was her skin color...?

Jesus Christ, get some remedial reading comprehension people in here, stat

[MERIZoC]

What's wrong with Duckworth? She's hardly an ideologue, and being a veteran is always a boost.

Hardly.

Fuck Tammy Duckworth. Most shitty politicians supported the destruction of Iraq but she was so gung-ho about it she decided to actually participate in killing people. She's a piece of shit.

[Senkaku]

What's wrong with Duckworth? She's hardly an ideologue, and being a veteran is always a boost.

Hardly.

Maybe to you, but you're about as representative of the American electorate as the average ginkgo tree is.

Fuck Tammy Duckworth. Most shitty politicians supported the destruction of Iraq but she was so gung-ho about it she decided to actually participate in killing people. She's a piece of shit.

[Major-Tom]

I think those who give Gabbard adoration and those who hate Gabbard are both missing the point. She's a fairly good congresswoman, one with some weird ties to certain weird religious organizations. Honestly, I don't like that, but I don't dislike her for that alone. She has some bad policy positions, some really good ones, and some decent ones.

I think, though, we should keep Gabbard in the House, where she has the ability to get some good work done.

Gabbard has had weirder and weirder stuff come out about her since her time in the sun when everything thought she might be like the heir apparent/young female version of Bernie or whatever. Let's go with Booker as a safer alternative- or, if you want a female veteran of color, Duckworth.

Eh, as I said, don't want her as President.

Booker is fine, kinda fake and not top tier, but not terrible overall (yes, I know about the Wall Street ties, even I can recognize that's a fucking dead horse to beat).

Duckworth took office in 2017, I admire her, but keep her in the Senate for now.

[Thermodolia]

Right Telconi is the racist one here, not the poster wanting a woman to be president based on her skin color

It's not racist to want women of color in office.

Based off her race and sex alone it definitely is.

If someone said that they want a white male as president just because said person is a white male, I’m pretty sure that you would rightly call them a racist

[Senkaku]

Gabbard has had weirder and weirder stuff come out about her since her time in the sun when everything thought she might be like the heir apparent/young female version of Bernie or whatever. Let's go with Booker as a safer alternative- or, if you want a female veteran of color, Duckworth.

Eh, as I said, don't want her as President.

Booker is fine, kinda fake and not top tier, but not terrible overall (yes, I know about the Wall Street ties, even I can recognize that's a fucking dead horse to beat).

Duckworth took office in 2017, I admire her, but keep her in the Senate for now.

As people were discussing before that- I think even though he's old, Biden would make a solid choice for POTUS, so long as his VP is younger.

[The Rich Port]

Speaking of Biden if the election was held today Biden would win big time. Current polling puts him at 59% to Trump’s 37% with a 1% undecided.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_ ... tion,_2020

You know, at first, I wanted to kill myself, because obviously humanity has fallen to the machinations of Shub Niggurath.

But if you think about it, it actually makes perfect sense. Biden is basically all of Donald Trump's DarkSydePhil-isms without the stink of vodka, sexism, and condescension towards minorities.

[Major-Tom]

What's wrong with Duckworth? She's hardly an ideologue, and being a veteran is always a boost.

Hardly.

Fuck Tammy Duckworth. Most shitty politicians supported the destruction of Iraq but she was so gung-ho about it she decided to actually participate in killing people. She's a piece of shit.

"She was involved in the military, found herself deployed, and lost her legs, what a bitch oh my god."

[MERIZoC]

Hardly.

Maybe to you, but you're about as representative of the American electorate as the average ginkgo tree is.

Fuck Tammy Duckworth. Most shitty politicians supported the destruction of Iraq but she was so gung-ho about it she decided to actually participate in killing people. She's a piece of shit.

Damn, I forgot this was a forum where instead of posting our personal views, we pretend to have the views of the american electorate. I'll do better next time

[Major-Tom]

Speaking of Biden if the election was held today Biden would win big time. Current polling puts him at 59% to Trump’s 37% with a 1% undecided.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_ ... tion,_2020

You know, at first, I wanted to kill myself, because obviously humanity has fallen to the machinations of Shub Niggurath.

But if you think about it, it actually makes perfect sense. Biden is basically all of Donald Trump's DarkSydePhil-isms without the stink of vodka, sexism, and condescension towards minorities.

Ironically enough, both Trump and Biden are teetotalers. Trump just has the erratic personality of someone drowned in vodka.

[MERIZoC]

Hardly.

Fuck Tammy Duckworth. Most shitty politicians supported the destruction of Iraq but she was so gung-ho about it she decided to actually participate in killing people. She's a piece of shit.

"She was involved in the military, found herself deployed, and lost her legs, what a bitch oh my god."

You support murdering Iraqi civilians?

[Senkaku]

Hardly.

Fuck Tammy Duckworth. Most shitty politicians supported the destruction of Iraq but she was so gung-ho about it she decided to actually participate in killing people. She's a piece of shit.

"She was involved in the military, found herself deployed, and lost her legs, what a bitch oh my god."

Apparently so

Maybe to you, but you're about as representative of the American electorate as the average ginkgo tree is.

Damn, I forgot this was a forum where instead of posting our personal views, we pretend to have the views of the american electorate. I'll do better next time

We're discussing who would be viable?

It's not racist to want women of color in office.

Based off her race and sex alone it definitely is.

If someone said that they want a white male as president just because said person is a white male, I’m pretty sure that you would rightly call them a racist

I mean sure, and did I say that, no not remotely, so now that we've all learned to read I think we can move the fuck along lmao

[Major-Tom]

Eh, as I said, don't want her as President.

Booker is fine, kinda fake and not top tier, but not terrible overall (yes, I know about the Wall Street ties, even I can recognize that's a fucking dead horse to beat).

Duckworth took office in 2017, I admire her, but keep her in the Senate for now.

As people were discussing before that- I think even though he's old, Biden would make a solid choice for POTUS, so long as his VP is younger.

For sure, I was saying I find him to be a solid choice to help us win in 2020 at the moment, but I'm sure by 2019/2020, some folks may look closer at his age and I'm sure some dirt will come out on him.

Regardless, he has the potential to be a very solid candidate. Third time is a charm for Mr. Biden, I suppose?

[Major-Tom]

"She was involved in the military, found herself deployed, and lost her legs, what a bitch oh my god."

You support murdering Iraqi civilians?

Yeah fam, I see a woman shot down in combat because she was an army reserve, and like her because I have a sadistic love for murder or some shit. Give me a break.

[Senkaku]

"She was involved in the military, found herself deployed, and lost her legs, what a bitch oh my god."

You support murdering Iraqi civilians?

Remind me when Tammy Duckworth committed war crimes or advocated for them to be committed? If you have footage or smthn you should probs be sending that to the Hague

jfc lmao

[The Rich Port]

"She was involved in the military, found herself deployed, and lost her legs, what a bitch oh my god."

You support murdering Iraqi civilians?

Merizoc, I hate to admit it, but you're reaching on that.

Did she actually say she shot people personally and enjoyed it? Did she enlist specifically to go do that?

Source it, please.

[MERIZoC]

lol in what way

Being behind some sensible ideas in regards to marijuana, civil liberties, and foreign policy. *shrugs.*

As I said, she isn't great, I wouldn't want her as Pres, hence why I say keep her in the House.

I would not trust the "civil liberties" credentials of the woman who for several years was in bed with Fox News types, condemning the president for not using that oh so great buzzword, "radical islamic terrorism". Her legislative record is proof enough of these authoritarian and islamophobic positions. Her foreign policy lies slightly to the worse end of Obama, and of course, her friendship with Indian fascists is completely alarming.

[MERIZoC]

You support murdering Iraqi civilians?

Yeah fam, I see a woman shot down in combat because she was an army reserve, and like her because I have a sadistic love for murder or some shit. Give me a break.

No, I'm being serious. Answer the question honestly.

[Senkaku]

Yeah fam, I see a woman shot down in combat because she was an army reserve, and like her because I have a sadistic love for murder or some shit. Give me a break.

No, I'm being serious. Answer the question honestly.

And once more, provide proof that Tammy committed war crimes or advocated for such, or enlisted to do so