The State of the Democratic Party II

[Corrian]

Gabbard would be alright imo.

Gabbard/Brown or Biden/Gabbard. That’s who I’d want to see run.

I've talked about this with my dad recently, but I really don't see that big of a problem with someone old running for President, as long as we're not, you know, talking freaking Arpaio old. All they need is a young VP. Yes, it would be a sad state of things if our President died of old age in office, but so what? Just get them a young VP.

[Jordkloden]

I honestly don’t know much about Gilibrand. I would love for Gabbard to run though

I think she's a good senator and very anti-trump but that's also somewhat of a hindrance because she seems to oppose everything he does no matter what it is. And hell yes Gabbard, would love for that.

[Jordkloden]

Gabbard/Brown or Biden/Gabbard. That’s who I’d want to see run.

I've talked about this with my dad recently, but I really don't see that big of a problem with someone old running for President, as long as we're not, you know, talking freaking Arpaio old. All they need is a young VP. Yes, it would be a sad state of things if our President died of old age in office, but so what? Just get them a young VP.

That was often my response to people who criticized Bernie for being too old. The office of the Vice-President exists for a reason.

[Thermodolia]

Gabbard/Brown or Biden/Gabbard. That’s who I’d want to see run.

I've talked about this with my dad recently, but I really don't see that big of a problem with someone old running for President, as long as we're not, you know, talking freaking Arpaio old. All they need is a young VP. Yes, it would be a sad state of things if our President died of old age in office, but so what? Just get them a young VP.

And that’s why I think a Biden/Gabbard or a Biden/Booker ticket would work wonderfully.

[Jordkloden]

And that’s why I think a Biden/Gabbard or a Biden/Booker ticket would work wonderfully.

Biden/Booker rolls off the tongue marvelously. I like that quite a bit.

[USS Monitor]

I've talked about this with my dad recently, but I really don't see that big of a problem with someone old running for President, as long as we're not, you know, talking freaking Arpaio old. All they need is a young VP. Yes, it would be a sad state of things if our President died of old age in office, but so what? Just get them a young VP.

And that’s why I think a Biden/Gabbard or a Biden/Booker ticket would work wonderfully.

I really dislike Gabbard, even as a VP. She's flaky and obnoxious.

Biden/Booker isn't my dream ticket, but it's something I could vote for without any major reservations.

[Hakons]

If Democrats choose Joe Biden as their candidate, I might vote for them. I can't justify a vote for Trump. I'm either voting for the Democrat or not voting in the presidential category.

[Major-Tom]

And that’s why I think a Biden/Gabbard or a Biden/Booker ticket would work wonderfully.

I really dislike Gabbard, even as a VP. She's flaky and obnoxious.

Biden/Booker isn't my dream ticket, but it's something I could vote for without any major reservations.

Booker, given where he is at, would make a good VP as opposed to a POTUS I think. Biden/Warren too. I've said it before, Warren gets a lot of flak from the right and even some voices on the moderate left such as myself, but I really find myself admiring her persistence and willingness to look out for consumers.

[Telconi]

If Democrats choose Joe Biden as their candidate, I might vote for them. I can't justify a vote for Trump. I'm either voting for the Democrat or not voting in the presidential category.

Yeah, I like third party votes. Just because I see third party votes as basically an "I am dissatisfied with both parties".

[Hakons]

If Democrats choose Joe Biden as their candidate, I might vote for them. I can't justify a vote for Trump. I'm either voting for the Democrat or not voting in the presidential category.

Yeah, I like third party votes. Just because I see third party votes as basically an "I am dissatisfied with both parties".

To be honest, I view the Libertarian Party as worse than the Democratic Party. They have the selfish individualism of modern conservatism with the secularism of modern liberalism.

The Green Party doesn't even get on the ballot in Indiana.

[USS Monitor]

I really dislike Gabbard, even as a VP. She's flaky and obnoxious.

Biden/Booker isn't my dream ticket, but it's something I could vote for without any major reservations.

Booker, given where he is at, would make a good VP as opposed to a POTUS I think. Biden/Warren too. I've said it before, Warren gets a lot of flak from the right and even some voices on the moderate left such as myself, but I really find myself admiring her persistence and willingness to look out for consumers.

That persistence and willingness to look out for people is why I support Warren. She's a bit to the left of me on some stuff, but I can live with that because she's quite honorable and good at her work.

[Telconi]

Yeah, I like third party votes. Just because I see third party votes as basically an "I am dissatisfied with both parties".

To be honest, I view the Libertarian Party as worse than the Democratic Party. They have the selfish individualism of modern conservatism with the secularism of modern liberalism.

The Green Party doesn't even get on the ballot in Indiana.

I'm not a big fan of the LP either, I just tend to think of them as a "none of the above" option.

[Major-Tom]

Booker, given where he is at, would make a good VP as opposed to a POTUS I think. Biden/Warren too. I've said it before, Warren gets a lot of flak from the right and even some voices on the moderate left such as myself, but I really find myself admiring her persistence and willingness to look out for consumers.

That persistence and willingness to look out for people is why I support Warren. She's a bit to the left of me on some stuff, but I can live with that because she's quite honorable and good at her work.

If the Dems deem her to be "not electable enough for the top of the ticket" or some crap, I'd hope they consider her for VP.

[Thermodolia]

Speaking of Biden if the election was held today Biden would win big time. Current polling puts him at 59% to Trump’s 37% with a 1% undecided.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_ ... tion,_2020

[Major-Tom]

Speaking of Biden if the election was held today Biden would win big time. Current polling puts him at 59% to Trump’s 37% with a 1% undecided.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_ ... tion,_2020

Republicans I talk to seem to admire Biden, as well. He's certainly electable, I would be more concerned about his age and the potential for a cognitive decline as he finishes up his first term or so.

[Improved werpland]

Gabbard would be alright imo.

Gabbard/Brown or Biden/Gabbard. That’s who I’d want to see run.

*status quo shill mode activates*

I like Brown, but don't fall for Gabbard. She has outright praised Chris Butler (also known as Guru Dev Srila Siddhaswarupananda Paramahamsa) on a few occasions, but continues to keep quiet about her beliefs in public. If this were a Republican Congressperson, one who legitimized foreign far-right politicians and strongmen, and obscured their financial and spiritual ties to an estranged Christian group, would there be the same reaction?

[Major-Tom]

Gabbard/Brown or Biden/Gabbard. That’s who I’d want to see run.

*status quo shill mode activates*

I like Brown, but don't fall for Gabbard. She has outright praised Chris Butler (also known as Guru Dev Srila Siddhaswarupananda Paramahamsa) on a few occasions, but continues to keep quiet about her beliefs in public. If this were a Republican Congressperson, one who legitimized foreign far-right politicians and strongmen, and obscured their financial and spiritual ties to an estranged Christian group, would there be the same reaction?

I think those who give Gabbard adoration and those who hate Gabbard are both missing the point. She's a fairly good congresswoman, one with some weird ties to certain weird religious organizations. Honestly, I don't like that, but I don't dislike her for that alone. She has some bad policy positions, some really good ones, and some decent ones.

I think, though, we should keep Gabbard in the House, where she has the ability to get some good work done.

[Improved werpland]

*status quo shill mode activates*

I like Brown, but don't fall for Gabbard. She has outright praised Chris Butler (also known as Guru Dev Srila Siddhaswarupananda Paramahamsa) on a few occasions, but continues to keep quiet about her beliefs in public. If this were a Republican Congressperson, one who legitimized foreign far-right politicians and strongmen, and obscured their financial and spiritual ties to an estranged Christian group, would there be the same reaction?

I think those who give Gabbard adoration and those who hate Gabbard are both missing the point. She's a fairly good congresswoman, one with some weird ties to certain weird religious organizations. Honestly, I don't like that, but I don't dislike her for that alone. She has some bad policy positions, some really good ones, and some decent ones.

I think, though, we should keep Gabbard in the House, where she has the ability to get some good work done.

I dislike her very much for her foreign policy positions. We used to have Dennis Kucinich cozying up with the international crypto-fascist left and Iran, but imo it was clear what he was doing was genuine and caused by ideological blinders. Gabbard is not the same though. I think there's something fishy with her and her popularity is irritating.

[Senkaku]

*status quo shill mode activates*

I like Brown, but don't fall for Gabbard. She has outright praised Chris Butler (also known as Guru Dev Srila Siddhaswarupananda Paramahamsa) on a few occasions, but continues to keep quiet about her beliefs in public. If this were a Republican Congressperson, one who legitimized foreign far-right politicians and strongmen, and obscured their financial and spiritual ties to an estranged Christian group, would there be the same reaction?

I think those who give Gabbard adoration and those who hate Gabbard are both missing the point. She's a fairly good congresswoman, one with some weird ties to certain weird religious organizations. Honestly, I don't like that, but I don't dislike her for that alone. She has some bad policy positions, some really good ones, and some decent ones.

I think, though, we should keep Gabbard in the House, where she has the ability to get some good work done.

Gabbard has had weirder and weirder stuff come out about her since her time in the sun when everything thought she might be like the heir apparent/young female version of Bernie or whatever. Let's go with Booker as a safer alternative- or, if you want a female veteran of color, Duckworth.

[MERIZoC]

*status quo shill mode activates*

I like Brown, but don't fall for Gabbard. She has outright praised Chris Butler (also known as Guru Dev Srila Siddhaswarupananda Paramahamsa) on a few occasions, but continues to keep quiet about her beliefs in public. If this were a Republican Congressperson, one who legitimized foreign far-right politicians and strongmen, and obscured their financial and spiritual ties to an estranged Christian group, would there be the same reaction?

I think those who give Gabbard adoration and those who hate Gabbard are both missing the point. She's a fairly good congresswoman, one with some weird ties to certain weird religious organizations. Honestly, I don't like that, but I don't dislike her for that alone. She has some bad policy positions, some really good ones, and some decent ones.

I think, though, we should keep Gabbard in the House, where she has the ability to get some good work done.

lol in what way

[MERIZoC]

I dunno if this has been posted yet, but about a week ago Ryan Grim and Lee Fang dropped a piece about how Dem party establishment groups like DCCC and Emily's List stonewall new, progressive candidates, instead favoring much wealthier and more conservative candidates, many of whom have been failures in the past.

https://theintercept.com/2018/01/23/dccc-democratic-primaries-congress-progressives/

[Valrifell]

I dunno if this has been posted yet, but about a week ago Ryan Grim and Lee Fang dropped a piece about how Dem party establishment groups like DCCC and Emily's List stonewall new, progressive candidates, instead favoring much wealthier and more conservative candidates, many of whom have been failures in the past.

https://theintercept.com/2018/01/23/dccc-democratic-primaries-congress-progressives/

Okay

[Telconi]

I think those who give Gabbard adoration and those who hate Gabbard are both missing the point. She's a fairly good congresswoman, one with some weird ties to certain weird religious organizations. Honestly, I don't like that, but I don't dislike her for that alone. She has some bad policy positions, some really good ones, and some decent ones.

I think, though, we should keep Gabbard in the House, where she has the ability to get some good work done.

Gabbard has had weirder and weirder stuff come out about her since her time in the sun when everything thought she might be like the heir apparent/young female version of Bernie or whatever. Let's go with Booker as a safer alternative- or, if you want a female veteran of color, Duckworth.

Or we could avoid that path like the plague it is...

[Senkaku]

Gabbard has had weirder and weirder stuff come out about her since her time in the sun when everything thought she might be like the heir apparent/young female version of Bernie or whatever. Let's go with Booker as a safer alternative- or, if you want a female veteran of color, Duckworth.

Or we could avoid that path like the plague it is...

What's wrong with Duckworth? She's hardly an ideologue, and being a veteran is always a boost.

Oh, is it the "woman of color" bit you have an issue with? Makes sense.

[Telconi]

Or we could avoid that path like the plague it is...

What's wrong with Duckworth? She's hardly an ideologue, and being a veteran is always a boost.

Oh, is it the "woman of color" bit you have an issue with? Makes sense.

"W-Well you're the real racist and sexist for pointing out that racism and sexism is bad!"

Yeah, okay...