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Who are your preferred potential 2020 Democratic contenders?

Bernie Sanders
150
29%
Joe Biden
99
19%
Elizabeth Warren
77
15%
Martin O'Malley
32
6%
Cory Booker
34
7%
Kirsten Gillibrand
23
4%
Kamala Harris
42
8%
Andrew Cuomo
15
3%
Chris Murphy
13
3%
Sherrod Brown
28
5%
 
Total votes : 513

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Postby Kramanica » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:37 am

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Telconi wrote:
There's a simple procedure to avoiding that. Don't come for me.


They're going to come for you anyway tho.

Plus, if we're going down, you're going down with us, so we'd report you anyway for the lulz.

So, they're coming for you no matter what.

You don't know who he is, though. :')
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Postby The Rich Port » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:38 am

Kramanica wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
They're going to come for you anyway tho.

Plus, if we're going down, you're going down with us, so we'd report you anyway for the lulz.

So, they're coming for you no matter what.

You don't know who he is, though. :')


The NSA is bad enough at violating people's privacy, God knows what the SS NSA is like.

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Postby Corrian » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:38 am

Major-Tom wrote:My biggest grievance with Biden, with everything said, would be his age. He would be 78 upon election.

Corrian is right too. Biden is no stranger to tragedy, but with his son's death in 2015, it really handicapped his willingness to run in 2016 (something he now says he sorta regrets not doing).

And with it, we'd be in a completely different state of things, I am pretty sure, with Biden or Sanders as President of the United States and probably a Democratic Senate in the least.
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Postby Kramanica » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:39 am

The Rich Port wrote:
Kramanica wrote:You don't know who he is, though. :')


The NSA is bad enough at violating people's privacy, God knows what the SS NSA is like.

Probably even more incompetent than the NSA.
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Postby The Rich Port » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:40 am

Kramanica wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
The NSA is bad enough at violating people's privacy, God knows what the SS NSA is like.

Probably even more incompetent than the NSA.


I'm reporting your ass too.

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Postby Valrifell » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:40 am

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Likely Biden. He's popular enough among registered Dems, and memey enough to win over less serious leftists.

I often do wonder how large of a role memes will play in future elections.


Minimal. Memes only appeal to a certain subset of a subset of internet users on the scale necessary to make a dent on opinion.
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Postby Corrian » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:41 am

See, there is a point where I can get it. I am pretty much "Anyone but Republicans" right now, besides maybe a few Republicans. But literally going with a Nazi is just insane to me. But hey, I'm used to people voting themselves into likely shit situations, so I guess I shouldn't be shocked.
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Postby Telconi » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:41 am

The Rich Port wrote:
Telconi wrote:
There's a simple procedure to avoiding that. Don't come for me.


They're going to come for you anyway tho.

Plus, if we're going down, you're going down with us, so we'd report you anyway for the lulz.

So, they're coming for you no matter what.


If they're coming for me anyway, what else do I have to worry about?
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Postby The Rich Port » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:41 am

Kramanica wrote:
Post War America wrote:
Likely Biden. He's popular enough among registered Dems, and memey enough to win over less serious leftists.

I often do wonder how large of a role memes will play in future elections.


Judging by the fact Clinton won the popular vote, not at all.

The only reason Trump won was because of cronyism and because the electoral college is awful.

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Postby Kramanica » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:42 am

The Rich Port wrote:
Kramanica wrote:Probably even more incompetent than the NSA.


I'm reporting your ass too.

I'm a Jew so I'd go down either way. :')
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Postby The Rich Port » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:42 am

Kramanica wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
I'm reporting your ass too.

I'm a Jew so I'd go down either way. :')


Even better, I might get amnesty.

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Postby Kramanica » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:43 am

Valrifell wrote:
Kramanica wrote:I often do wonder how large of a role memes will play in future elections.


Minimal. Memes only appeal to a certain subset of a subset of internet users on the scale necessary to make a dent on opinion.

Perhaps. But it would be cool to see some polling done to see how many people had their votes influenced by memes.
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Postby The Rich Port » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:43 am

Telconi wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
They're going to come for you anyway tho.

Plus, if we're going down, you're going down with us, so we'd report you anyway for the lulz.

So, they're coming for you no matter what.


If they're coming for me anyway, what else do I have to worry about?


You're right, why worry about how your idiocy got you punted.

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Postby Kramanica » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:43 am

The Rich Port wrote:
Kramanica wrote:I'm a Jew so I'd go down either way. :')


Even better, I might get amnesty.

You'll get nothing.

I'll just tell them you stole my stash of shekels and are keeping it for yourself.
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Postby The Rich Port » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:45 am

Kramanica wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
Even better, I might get amnesty.

You'll get nothing.

I'll just tell them you stole my stash of shekels and are keeping it for yourself.


Why would they believe a Jew?

Besides, they'll see that as cunning, because then other Jews can't steal it from me or them.

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Postby Valrifell » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:46 am

Kramanica wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Minimal. Memes only appeal to a certain subset of a subset of internet users on the scale necessary to make a dent on opinion.

Perhaps. But it would be cool to see some polling done to see how many people had their votes influenced by memes.


See, this is just an absurd concept to me because basing an opinion on memes is less than stupid.

It's literally brainless.
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Postby Kramanica » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:46 am

The Rich Port wrote:
Kramanica wrote:You'll get nothing.

I'll just tell them you stole my stash of shekels and are keeping it for yourself.


Why would they believe a Jew?

Besides, they'll see that as cunning, because then other Jews can't steal it from me or them.

Because I'm dirt poor, which they would see as impossible since we all know every Jew has a secret stash of shekels hidden away somewhere.

So I'll just tell them that you took it.
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Postby Kramanica » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:47 am

Valrifell wrote:
Kramanica wrote:Perhaps. But it would be cool to see some polling done to see how many people had their votes influenced by memes.


See, this is just an absurd concept to me because basing an opinion on memes is less than stupid.

It's literally brainless.

Much of the public is brainless.

What's your point?
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Postby Telconi » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:48 am

Corrian wrote:See, there is a point where I can get it. I am pretty much "Anyone but Republicans" right now, besides maybe a few Republicans. But literally going with a Nazi is just insane to me. But hey, I'm used to people voting themselves into likely shit situations, so I guess I shouldn't be shocked.


People who vote for gun grabbers are as insane to me as people who vote for literal Nazis. In the end, if those are my two choices, I'm picking the bigot not intent on destroying my way of life.

I can understand the idea making you uncomfortable, it makes me uncomfortable thinking about it. But I think it would be readily understandable. I would understand a Jewish person voting for literally anyone over Nehlen.
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PRO:
-Weapons Rights
-Gender Equality
-LGBTQ Rights
-Racial Equality
-Religious Freedom
-Freedom of Speech
-Freedom of Association
-Life
-Limited Government
-Non Interventionism
-Labor Unions
-Environmental Protections
ANTI:
-Racism
-Sexism
-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

"The Constitution is NOT an instrument for the government to restrain the people,it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government-- lest it come to dominate our lives and interests." ~ Patrick Henry

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Postby Corrian » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:50 am

Telconi wrote:
Corrian wrote:See, there is a point where I can get it. I am pretty much "Anyone but Republicans" right now, besides maybe a few Republicans. But literally going with a Nazi is just insane to me. But hey, I'm used to people voting themselves into likely shit situations, so I guess I shouldn't be shocked.


People who vote for gun grabbers are as insane to me as people who vote for literal Nazis. In the end, if those are my two choices, I'm picking the bigot not intent on destroying my way of life.

I can understand the idea making you uncomfortable, it makes me uncomfortable thinking about it. But I think it would be readily understandable. I would understand a Jewish person voting for literally anyone over Nehlen.

I guess let's just hope we don't get to that sort of shitty decision.
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Postby Telconi » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:50 am

Corrian wrote:
Telconi wrote:
People who vote for gun grabbers are as insane to me as people who vote for literal Nazis. In the end, if those are my two choices, I'm picking the bigot not intent on destroying my way of life.

I can understand the idea making you uncomfortable, it makes me uncomfortable thinking about it. But I think it would be readily understandable. I would understand a Jewish person voting for literally anyone over Nehlen.

I guess let's just hope we don't get to that sort of shitty decision.


I hope that every day of my life.
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PRO:
-Weapons Rights
-Gender Equality
-LGBTQ Rights
-Racial Equality
-Religious Freedom
-Freedom of Speech
-Freedom of Association
-Life
-Limited Government
-Non Interventionism
-Labor Unions
-Environmental Protections
ANTI:
-Racism
-Sexism
-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

"The Constitution is NOT an instrument for the government to restrain the people,it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government-- lest it come to dominate our lives and interests." ~ Patrick Henry

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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:52 am

Telconi wrote:
Corrian wrote:See, there is a point where I can get it. I am pretty much "Anyone but Republicans" right now, besides maybe a few Republicans. But literally going with a Nazi is just insane to me. But hey, I'm used to people voting themselves into likely shit situations, so I guess I shouldn't be shocked.


People who vote for gun grabbers are as insane to me as people who vote for literal Nazis. In the end, if those are my two choices, I'm picking the bigot not intent on destroying my way of life.

I can understand the idea making you uncomfortable, it makes me uncomfortable thinking about it. But I think it would be readily understandable. I would understand a Jewish person voting for literally anyone over Nehlen.


So what are gun strokers then?
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Postby Kramanica » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:53 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Telconi wrote:
People who vote for gun grabbers are as insane to me as people who vote for literal Nazis. In the end, if those are my two choices, I'm picking the bigot not intent on destroying my way of life.

I can understand the idea making you uncomfortable, it makes me uncomfortable thinking about it. But I think it would be readily understandable. I would understand a Jewish person voting for literally anyone over Nehlen.


So what are gun strokers then?

Better than gun grabbers, I'd say.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:56 am

Kramanica wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
So what are gun strokers then?

Better than gun grabbers, I'd say.


Until one is pointing one at you.
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
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Postby Crockerland » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:56 am

Telconi wrote:
Corrian wrote:See, there is a point where I can get it. I am pretty much "Anyone but Republicans" right now, besides maybe a few Republicans. But literally going with a Nazi is just insane to me. But hey, I'm used to people voting themselves into likely shit situations, so I guess I shouldn't be shocked.


People who vote for gun grabbers are as insane to me as people who vote for literal Nazis. In the end, if those are my two choices, I'm picking the bigot not intent on destroying my way of life.

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