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The State of the Democratic Party II

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Who are your preferred potential 2020 Democratic contenders?

Bernie Sanders
150
29%
Joe Biden
99
19%
Elizabeth Warren
77
15%
Martin O'Malley
32
6%
Cory Booker
34
7%
Kirsten Gillibrand
23
4%
Kamala Harris
42
8%
Andrew Cuomo
15
3%
Chris Murphy
13
3%
Sherrod Brown
28
5%
 
Total votes : 513

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:35 pm

San Lumen wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
Why do you think so?

She's smart, competent, an inspiring leader and has experience as state attorney general. That latter part makes her unique. No President has ever served as a state Attorney General.

Im not voting for the president based on that. Using that logic Mattis should be president because no Marine has been president before.

And I’d hardly say that she’s inspiring or competent. But as usual the DNC only cares about the east and west coast liberals and not the rest of us. Well I guess they will care when they get four more years of Trump or not.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:36 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:She's smart, competent, an inspiring leader and has experience as state attorney general. That latter part makes her unique. No President has ever served as a state Attorney General.

Im not voting for the president based on that. Using that logic Mattis should be president because no Marine has been president before.

And I’d hardly say that she’s inspiring or competent. But as usual the DNC only cares about the east and west coast liberals and not the rest of us. Well I guess they will care when they get four more years of Trump or not.


So who would your ideal candidate be then?

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:43 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Im not voting for the president based on that. Using that logic Mattis should be president because no Marine has been president before.

And I’d hardly say that she’s inspiring or competent. But as usual the DNC only cares about the east and west coast liberals and not the rest of us. Well I guess they will care when they get four more years of Trump or not.


So who would your ideal candidate be then?

Gabbard or Biden or Booker. Sherrod Brown is a maybe but definitely could be VP to one of the three
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:45 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
So who would your ideal candidate be then?

Gabbard or Biden or Booker. Sherrod Brown is a maybe but definitely could be VP to one of the three

Id be happy with all three of those.

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:48 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Gabbard or Biden or Booker. Sherrod Brown is a maybe but definitely could be VP to one of the three

Id be happy with all three of those.

In any case I want a democrat president a Republican senate and a democratic house. No party should control all of congress and no party should have control of both congress and the presidency.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:50 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Id be happy with all three of those.

In any case I want a democrat president a Republican senate and a democratic house. No party should control all of congress and no party should have control of both congress and the presidency.

So the Republican Senate can block everything they do? no thanks.
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Postby Telconi » Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:53 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
So who would your ideal candidate be then?

Gabbard or Biden or Booker. Sherrod Brown is a maybe but definitely could be VP to one of the three


Gabbard I could get behind. Biden would likely be pretty good too. IDK abut Brown, and I'm not a Booker fan.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:53 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:In any case I want a democrat president a Republican senate and a democratic house. No party should control all of congress and no party should have control of both congress and the presidency.

So the Republican Senate can block everything they do? no thanks.

No so that there’s balance. It’s either the senate or the house. One has to be controlled by the republicans and I choose the senate.

No party should have complete control over the government. One party states are bad.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:56 pm

Telconi wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Gabbard or Biden or Booker. Sherrod Brown is a maybe but definitely could be VP to one of the three


Gabbard I could get behind. Biden would likely be pretty good too. IDK abut Brown, and I'm not a Booker fan.

Brown is closer to Sanders. He’s basically a nod to that half of the party.

I like Booker he has some great ideas and he’s not really out there in terms of politics. Though my dream ticket would be Gabbard/Brown or Biden/Gabbard
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Postby Telconi » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:00 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Gabbard I could get behind. Biden would likely be pretty good too. IDK abut Brown, and I'm not a Booker fan.

Brown is closer to Sanders. He’s basically a nod to that half of the party.

I like Booker he has some great ideas and he’s not really out there in terms of politics. Though my dream ticket would be Gabbard/Brown or Biden/Gabbard


Booker seems Clinton-ish. Big business wall street type.
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Postby USS Monitor » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:32 pm

San Lumen wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
Why do you think so?

She's smart, competent, an inspiring leader and has experience as state attorney general. That latter part makes her unique. No President has ever served as a state Attorney General.


I haven't seen much evidence that she's smart, competent, or inspiring. I mean... Maybe I'm missing something, but there's been a lot of hype about Harris, and I still don't see why people are so excited.

Thermodolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
So who would your ideal candidate be then?

Gabbard or Biden or Booker. Sherrod Brown is a maybe but definitely could be VP to one of the three


Not Gabbard please. I like Booker. I think his "I love everybody" attitude would be helpful to calm things down. Biden is OK, but I'd prefer someone new.

Telconi wrote:
Booker seems Clinton-ish. Big business wall street type.


Knowing someone gets Wall Street money really doesn't tell you much about their policy positions, temperament, or leadership style.
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Postby Arlenton » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:46 pm

San Lumen wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
Why do you think so?

She's smart, competent, an inspiring leader and has experience as state attorney general. That latter part makes her unique. No President has ever served as a state Attorney General.

Other Dem candidates could be considered smart, competent, and inspiring. What makes Harris special? And I don't think most voters are looking specifically for an attorney general or consider an AG more impressive than a governor or senator.

Harris also doesn't seem like a candidate who will broaden support. Like at all. Black woman from California who "wants to ban guns". Really? No appeal to working class Midwestern/rust belt whites, and the perfect boogeyman to get conservatives to the polls.

Not saying she will lose, because she most definitely can win. I just see her as being far from the best Dem candidate.
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Postby Telconi » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:22 am

USS Monitor wrote:
San Lumen wrote:She's smart, competent, an inspiring leader and has experience as state attorney general. That latter part makes her unique. No President has ever served as a state Attorney General.


I haven't seen much evidence that she's smart, competent, or inspiring. I mean... Maybe I'm missing something, but there's been a lot of hype about Harris, and I still don't see why people are so excited.

Thermodolia wrote:Gabbard or Biden or Booker. Sherrod Brown is a maybe but definitely could be VP to one of the three


Not Gabbard please. I like Booker. I think his "I love everybody" attitude would be helpful to calm things down. Biden is OK, but I'd prefer someone new.

Telconi wrote:
Booker seems Clinton-ish. Big business wall street type.


Knowing someone gets Wall Street money really doesn't tell you much about their policy positions, temperament, or leadership style.


I dont care where people.get their money from. It was more of an issue with perceived policy and leadership. Clinton, to me, represented everything wrong with the Democrat party. She strongly held the bad positions, and was wishy washy at best on the good ones.

Booker simply seems a lot like her at this point.
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Postby Telconi » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:24 am

Arlenton wrote:
San Lumen wrote:She's smart, competent, an inspiring leader and has experience as state attorney general. That latter part makes her unique. No President has ever served as a state Attorney General.

Other Dem candidates could be considered smart, competent, and inspiring. What makes Harris special? And I don't think most voters are looking specifically for an attorney general or consider an AG more impressive than a governor or senator.

Harris also doesn't seem like a candidate who will broaden support. Like at all. Black woman from California who "wants to ban guns". Really? No appeal to working class Midwestern/rust belt whites, and the perfect boogeyman to get conservatives to the polls.

Not saying she will lose, because she most definitely can win. I just see her as being far from the best Dem candidate.


Kamala Harris attack ads pretty much write themselves. She's a "newcomer" to most Democrats, she's been a threat on the radar of Republicans for years now.
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Postby USS Monitor » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:24 am

Telconi wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
I haven't seen much evidence that she's smart, competent, or inspiring. I mean... Maybe I'm missing something, but there's been a lot of hype about Harris, and I still don't see why people are so excited.



Not Gabbard please. I like Booker. I think his "I love everybody" attitude would be helpful to calm things down. Biden is OK, but I'd prefer someone new.



Knowing someone gets Wall Street money really doesn't tell you much about their policy positions, temperament, or leadership style.


I dont care where people.get their money from. It was more of an issue with perceived policy and leadership. Clinton, to me, represented everything wrong with the Democrat party. She strongly held the bad positions, and was wishy washy at best on the good ones.

Booker simply seems a lot like her at this point.


In what way?
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Postby Telconi » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:26 am

USS Monitor wrote:
Telconi wrote:
I dont care where people.get their money from. It was more of an issue with perceived policy and leadership. Clinton, to me, represented everything wrong with the Democrat party. She strongly held the bad positions, and was wishy washy at best on the good ones.

Booker simply seems a lot like her at this point.


In what way?


In what way what? Did Clinton represent the worst aspects of the Democrats? Does Booker seem like Clinton?
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Postby USS Monitor » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:27 am

Telconi wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
In what way?


In what way what? Did Clinton represent the worst aspects of the Democrats? Does Booker seem like Clinton?


In what way does Booker seem like Clinton?
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Postby Bakery Hill » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:30 am

USS Monitor wrote:
San Lumen wrote:She's smart, competent, an inspiring leader and has experience as state attorney general. That latter part makes her unique. No President has ever served as a state Attorney General.


I haven't seen much evidence that she's smart, competent, or inspiring. I mean... Maybe I'm missing something, but there's been a lot of hype about Harris, and I still don't see why people are so excited.

Thermodolia wrote:Gabbard or Biden or Booker. Sherrod Brown is a maybe but definitely could be VP to one of the three


Not Gabbard please. I like Booker. I think his "I love everybody" attitude would be helpful to calm things down. Biden is OK, but I'd prefer someone new.

Telconi wrote:
Booker seems Clinton-ish. Big business wall street type.


Knowing someone gets Wall Street money really doesn't tell you much about their policy positions, temperament, or leadership style.

Well getting Wall Street money usually means your policy positions are actively approved of by Wall Street.
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Postby USS Monitor » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:35 am

Bakery Hill wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
I haven't seen much evidence that she's smart, competent, or inspiring. I mean... Maybe I'm missing something, but there's been a lot of hype about Harris, and I still don't see why people are so excited.



Not Gabbard please. I like Booker. I think his "I love everybody" attitude would be helpful to calm things down. Biden is OK, but I'd prefer someone new.



Knowing someone gets Wall Street money really doesn't tell you much about their policy positions, temperament, or leadership style.

Well getting Wall Street money usually means your policy positions are actively approved of by Wall Street.


It means they're approved of by someone on Wall Street, not necessarily all of Wall Street. Given that Wall Street is not a hivemind, this can cover a pretty wide range.
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Postby Bakery Hill » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:35 am

If Gabbard wasn't so pro-Modi I'd be more enthusiastically in favour of her. I still reckon she'd be a great candidate given the times.
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Postby Bakery Hill » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:38 am

USS Monitor wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:Well getting Wall Street money usually means your policy positions are actively approved of by Wall Street.


It means they're approved of by someone on Wall Street, not necessarily all of Wall Street. Given that Wall Street is not a hivemind, this can cover a pretty wide range.

Naturally, you have people like the Mercers and even people like Buffet. But we can't pretend Finance doesn't have clear material interests, someone that's backed by them in any significant way is probably not going to be in favour of breaking up the banks, tax hikes on the corporate sector and high income earners or economic protectionism.
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Postby Crockerland » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:49 am

Arlenton wrote:
San Lumen wrote:She's smart, competent, an inspiring leader and has experience as state attorney general. That latter part makes her unique. No President has ever served as a state Attorney General.

Other Dem candidates could be considered smart, competent, and inspiring.

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Arlenton wrote:Other Dem candidates could be considered smart, competent, and inspiring.

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Postby Valrifell » Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:57 am

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San Lumen wrote:Id be happy with all three of those.

In any case I want a democrat president a Republican senate and a democratic house. No party should control all of congress and no party should have control of both congress and the presidency.


Be honest, you just want a split government so we can all come back and complain about a government that does nothing.
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Postby Sovaal » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:21 am

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Thermodolia wrote:In any case I want a democrat president a Republican senate and a democratic house. No party should control all of congress and no party should have control of both congress and the presidency.

So the Republican Senate can block everything they do? no thanks.

Heard that China always has one party in control of the government.
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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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