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Who are your preferred potential 2020 Democratic contenders?

Bernie Sanders
150
29%
Joe Biden
99
19%
Elizabeth Warren
77
15%
Martin O'Malley
32
6%
Cory Booker
34
7%
Kirsten Gillibrand
23
4%
Kamala Harris
42
8%
Andrew Cuomo
15
3%
Chris Murphy
13
3%
Sherrod Brown
28
5%
 
Total votes : 513

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Telconi
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Postby Telconi » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:42 am

Kramanica wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:The Democrats try to be the grownups in the room and the public makes them pay for it. Biden has the straight talk candor that cultists claim Donnie has without the vulgarity and sordid history.

Oh yah, Maxine Waters is definitely a grownup.


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Postby Kramanica » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:19 am

Valrifell wrote:
Corrian wrote:...This link is 2 months old.


It's always interesting watching Trump supporters scramble to find sources that backup the world view that everything's fine. This is fine, and he's fine

lol okay I don't think everything's fine bruv.

no strawman plz
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Postby Kramanica » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:20 am

Telconi wrote:
Kramanica wrote:Oh yah, Maxine Waters is definitely a grownup.


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"Did the pizza get delivered yet? Sitting on this floor is making me hungry."
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Postby Corrian » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:26 am

MERIZoC wrote:
Corrian wrote:...This link is 2 months old.

just think how shrunk it must be since then!

It went up again since then, so no.

I mean, it may in fact be down again, but alas.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:36 am

Kramanica wrote:
Telconi wrote:
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"Did the pizza get delivered yet? Sitting on this floor is making me hungry."


Pizza made from the shop selling children, you mean? #liberalNWOconspiracy

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Postby Petrasylvania » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:38 am

Mike the Progressive wrote:
Kramanica wrote:"Did the pizza get delivered yet? Sitting on this floor is making me hungry."


Pizza made from the shop selling children, you mean? #liberalNWOconspiracy

Better get some guns to liberate the children from the pizza shop.
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If that was their only policy position, sure.
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-Environmental Protections
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-Government Overreach
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-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

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Postby Nouveau Yathrib » Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:40 pm

I still can't believe that Brazil lost to Germany 1:7. Copy and paste onto your sig if you were alive when this happened.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:41 pm

Nouveau Yathrib wrote:California Is The Future


It's time to destroy civilization I guess.
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Postby Valrifell » Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:42 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Nouveau Yathrib wrote:California Is The Future


It's time to destroy civilization I guess.


California did nothing wrong.
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Postby The East Marches II » Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:46 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
It's time to destroy civilization I guess.


California did nothing wrong.


Then buy our water at the market rate :^)

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Postby Petrasylvania » Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:47 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
California did nothing wrong.


Then buy our water at the market rate :^)

Which after adjusting for all the kickbacks in Illinois is...
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Postby Albrenia » Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:47 pm

Why is one of the guys in the "Immigration and Diversity" picture giving another one a sidelong look like he just shat on his grandma?

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Postby Nouveau Yathrib » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:00 pm

Albrenia wrote:Why is one of the guys in the "Immigration and Diversity" picture giving another one a sidelong look like he just shat on his grandma?


Lol. I haven't read Part IV yet and I'm not sure if I fully agree with their predictions of Democratic dominance in the next party realignment. But I do think they have a point on using California as a benchmark for what kinds of policies the US electorate will favor 10-20 years from now.
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Postby The East Marches II » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:05 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
Then buy our water at the market rate :^)

Which after adjusting for all the kickbacks in Illinois is...


Whoa, whoa. We embezzle our own money quite proudly. I'll have you know the Feds didn't trust us enough to build our own highways this time.

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Postby Cekoviu » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:22 pm

pro: women's rights
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Postby Nouveau Yathrib » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:26 pm



I thought the idea of California setting trends for the rest of the country to follow was interesting.

Why California Politics Is Always 15 Years Ahead

What do we mean by California is the future when applied to politics? Modern California politics has an uncanny knack of prefiguring what happens in the rest of America in about a 15-year timeline. In other words, what happened in California 15 years ago should be studied closely to see how it will play out in America today. And what’s happening now in California will roll out over America in the next 15 years.

California experiences the future earlier than other parts of the country. Californians invent many new technologies, adopt them early and adapt new systems around them relatively quickly. They absorb waves of immigrants at the highest numbers in the country and accommodate them into their society quicker. The state is a magnet for young people, entrepreneurs, and people who want to change the world. Much of the population is unusually open to trying new things in the economy, society, and in politics.

Plus California has an outsized influence over the rest of the United States. It has the largest population of any state, with 40 million people, and its economy compared to all nations would be the sixth largest in the world. It’s the home of Hollywood and the digital media giants and has a huge impact on promoting next generation ideas.

Whatever the reasons, a strong case can be made from the observed facts on the ground that California blazes a political trail about 15 years before America follows.
I still can't believe that Brazil lost to Germany 1:7. Copy and paste onto your sig if you were alive when this happened.

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Postby Cekoviu » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:29 pm

Nouveau Yathrib wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:That's some low-quality propaganda you've got there, bruv.


I thought the idea of California setting trends for the rest of the country to follow was interesting.

Why California Politics Is Always 15 Years Ahead

I meant the picture. It kind of reminds me of one of those memes where it says something like "Why not come to CALIFORNIA? We have:" and lists 6 strange/terrible things.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:44 pm

Nouveau Yathrib wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:That's some low-quality propaganda you've got there, bruv.


I thought the idea of California setting trends for the rest of the country to follow was interesting.

Why California Politics Is Always 15 Years Ahead

What do we mean by California is the future when applied to politics? Modern California politics has an uncanny knack of prefiguring what happens in the rest of America in about a 15-year timeline. In other words, what happened in California 15 years ago should be studied closely to see how it will play out in America today. And what’s happening now in California will roll out over America in the next 15 years.

California experiences the future earlier than other parts of the country. Californians invent many new technologies, adopt them early and adapt new systems around them relatively quickly. They absorb waves of immigrants at the highest numbers in the country and accommodate them into their society quicker. The state is a magnet for young people, entrepreneurs, and people who want to change the world. Much of the population is unusually open to trying new things in the economy, society, and in politics.

Plus California has an outsized influence over the rest of the United States. It has the largest population of any state, with 40 million people, and its economy compared to all nations would be the sixth largest in the world. It’s the home of Hollywood and the digital media giants and has a huge impact on promoting next generation ideas.

Whatever the reasons, a strong case can be made from the observed facts on the ground that California blazes a political trail about 15 years before America follows.

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Postby Corrian » Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:03 pm

California's "future transport" literally picked the slowest bullet train that is also the costliest to build. Bullet trains here would be great, but come on.
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Postby New Emeline » Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:08 pm

What on earth is a digital government? Are they going to elect HAL?

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Postby Western-Ukraine » Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:10 pm

New Emeline wrote:What on earth is a digital government? Are they going to elect HAL?

It's the new pervasive government that can take control of your fingers.
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Postby New Emeline » Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:11 pm

Western-Ukraine wrote:
New Emeline wrote:What on earth is a digital government? Are they going to elect HAL?

It's the new pervasive government that can take control of your fingers.

Nice one :p

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Postby Telconi » Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:11 pm

Corrian wrote:California's "future transport" literally picked the slowest bullet train that is also the costliest to build. Bullet trains here would be great, but come on.


Fuck that thing, like so very hard, with a cactus...
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-3.23 LIBERTARIAN

PRO:
-Weapons Rights
-Gender Equality
-LGBTQ Rights
-Racial Equality
-Religious Freedom
-Freedom of Speech
-Freedom of Association
-Life
-Limited Government
-Non Interventionism
-Labor Unions
-Environmental Protections
ANTI:
-Racism
-Sexism
-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

"The Constitution is NOT an instrument for the government to restrain the people,it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government-- lest it come to dominate our lives and interests." ~ Patrick Henry

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