The State of the Democratic Party II

[Improved werpland]

Also:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/world/2018/3/20/17144332/senate-yemen-saudi-arabia-sanders-lee-murphy

Scott Paul, a Yemen expert at the humanitarian group Oxfam America, was unhappy with the news, telling me that “today should have been the day that the Senate moved to end US involvement in this catastrophe.” But Paul noted that some senators may have voted against the measure because the Senate Foreign Relations Committee may soon take up the issue. “We expect Congress to take decisive action soon,” he said.

[Kramanica]

Straw.

Sure that wasn't what you were trying to subtly imply. :^]

nope

[The East Marches II]

No, not really. Statewide popular elections require much more pandering because they need massive campaign machines

So they’d be less supportive of unpopular stuff like this when they aren’t subject to actual voters? I think the original reason we got rid of the old system hasn’t changed. This is just an anti-democratic pipe dream for Republicans who got excited about the number of states they control

Rather, a desire to control the excesses of the people. The 17th was a terrible error. We'd be better off under the old system. The original reason we got rid of the old system is the same garbage spewed for making other places get rid of checks :^)

[MERIZoC]

lol Saudi propaganda bullshit

The only extremists are the imperialists trying to destroy a country

Do you have any talking points that don't sound like they came straight from the mouth of the Ayatollah?

The Ayatollah can blow me. Tudeh forever, baby.

[MERIZoC]

Why would that matter? "Oh no, now Joe Manchin can't win moderate voters from the GCC block"

West Virginians seem to prefer his Saudi-supporting politics.

Prove it

[Improved werpland]

West Virginians seem to prefer his Saudi-supporting politics.

Prove it

They vote for him. Saudi-supporting politics is conservative politics (hostility toward Iran) not corruption.

[MERIZoC]

Prove it

They vote for him. Saudi-supporting politics is conservative politics (hostility toward Iran) not corruption.

No. Prove they voted for him for that.

I guarantee you 90% of West Virginians don't know we're involved in a war in Yemen and 50% of them don't know what the fuck a yemen is

[Telconi]

They vote for him. Saudi-supporting politics is conservative politics (hostility toward Iran) not corruption.

No. Prove they voted for him for that.

I guarantee you 90% of West Virginians don't know we're involved in a war in Yemen and 50% of them don't know what the fuck a yemen is

In such a case they aren't opposed to it either.

[Collatis]

Ah yes, because supporting Saudi Arabia is so popular in this country.

It is popular with the powerful Jewish Lobby, who are making common cause with the house of Saud against the Shiites. Israel is aiming at Hezbollah and the Sauds at Iran, but for a while their routes follow the same path

What’s NSG without a healthy dose of antisemitism? It would’ve been much easier to blame George Soros or the Rothschilds, you know.

No. Prove they voted for him for that.

I guarantee you 90% of West Virginians don’t know we’re involved in a war in Yemen and 50% of them don’t know what the fuck a yemen is

In such a case they aren’t opposed to it either.

So how Manchin votes on the issue has no bearing on his reelection. Glad that’s been settled.

[Pope Joan]

Also:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/world/2018/3/20/17144332/senate-yemen-saudi-arabia-sanders-lee-murphy

Scott Paul, a Yemen expert at the humanitarian group Oxfam America, was unhappy with the news, telling me that “today should have been the day that the Senate moved to end US involvement in this catastrophe.” But Paul noted that some senators may have voted against the measure because the Senate Foreign Relations Committee may soon take up the issue. “We expect Congress to take decisive action soon,” he said.

Now google "Oxfam scandal"

[Corrian]

Oh yeah, THAT organization..

[USS Monitor]

It is popular with the powerful Jewish Lobby, who are making common cause with the house of Saud against the Shiites. Israel is aiming at Hezbollah and the Sauds at Iran, but for a while their routes follow the same path

What’s NSG without a healthy dose of antisemitism? It would’ve been much easier to blame George Soros or the Rothschilds, you know.

Not sure if Joan's comments were motivated by antisemitism there. A lot of antisemites would say stuff like that, but stopped clocks are right twice a day.

[Improved werpland]

They vote for him. Saudi-supporting politics is conservative politics (hostility toward Iran) not corruption.

No. Prove they voted for him for that.

I guarantee you 90% of West Virginians don't know we're involved in a war in Yemen and 50% of them don't know what the fuck a yemen is

They support the ideology behind it.

[Bakery Hill]

No. Prove they voted for him for that.

I guarantee you 90% of West Virginians don't know we're involved in a war in Yemen and 50% of them don't know what the fuck a yemen is

They support the ideology behind it.

Salafism?

[Petrasylvania]

They support the ideology behind it.

Salafism?

Enemy of My Enemy. All they have to hear about Yemen is that the Saudis are fighting Iranian supported rebels and they're sold.

[Improved werpland]

They support the ideology behind it.

Salafism?

Conservatism. The ideology against Iran and for Israel.

Personally, I too am for Israel but not so much against Iran.

[Bakery Hill]

if you can't sell not giving weapons to salafists, liberalism really is dead

[Improved werpland]

if you can't sell not giving weapons to salafists, liberalism really is dead

You could, but in West Virginia I don’t know how that would weigh in comparison with other issues. And West Virginia is probably one of the more illiberal (in the broad and cultural sense) states.

[The Rich Port]

if you can't sell not giving weapons to salafists, liberalism really is dead

You could, but in West Virginia I don’t know how that would weigh in comparison with other issues. And West Virginia is probably one of the more illiberal (in the broad and cultural sense) states.

They're also short on money, being a "taxes are gay" state.

https://www.mercatus.org/statefiscalran ... stvirginia

[The House of Petain]

Great nothing says vigor and diversity like Nancy Pelosi, Steve Hoyer, Chuck Schumer, Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders.

[The Rich Port]

Great nothing says vigor and diversity like Nancy Pelosi, Steve Hoyer, Chuck Schumer, Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders.

Hey man. They can do whatever.

They white.

[The East Marches II]

You could, but in West Virginia I don’t know how that would weigh in comparison with other issues. And West Virginia is probably one of the more illiberal (in the broad and cultural sense) states.

They're also short on money, being a "taxes are gay" state.

https://www.mercatus.org/statefiscalran ... stvirginia

Ha! New Jersey is also worse than us in fiscal health. Less corrupt and in better shape financially. Thank God.

[Ism]

They're also short on money, being a "taxes are gay" state.

https://www.mercatus.org/statefiscalran ... stvirginia

Ha! New Jersey is also worse than us in fiscal health. Less corrupt and in better shape financially. Thank God.

We'll get you guys one day, if it's the last thing we do! Which, given the data, it probably will be.

[Telconi]

You could, but in West Virginia I don’t know how that would weigh in comparison with other issues. And West Virginia is probably one of the more illiberal (in the broad and cultural sense) states.

They're also short on money, being a "taxes are gay" state.

https://www.mercatus.org/statefiscalran ... stvirginia

Better off than California, which has no issue with taxes whatsoever.

[Major-Tom]

They're also short on money, being a "taxes are gay" state.

https://www.mercatus.org/statefiscalran ... stvirginia

Ha! New Jersey is also worse than us in fiscal health. Less corrupt and in better shape financially. Thank God.

NJ seems like a low bar to set (sorry Collatis).