The State of the Democratic Party II

[The Rich Port]

I've got all the friends I need. Thank's for your concern tho...

Yes, yes, you've already informed us about how you're the equivalent of ten SWAT teams busting into your house in the middle of the night because you're just such a badass

Hey man. When the liberal SJW army comes knocking on your door, WHO YOU GONNA CALL?

LIB-BUSTERS!

[Telconi]

Yes, yes, you've already informed us about how you're the equivalent of ten SWAT teams busting into your house in the middle of the night because you're just such a badass

Hey man. When the liberal SJW army comes knocking on your door, WHO YOU GONNA CALL?

LIB-BUSTERS!

>Liberal
>SJW

Please pick one, using two mutually exclusive adjectives is confusing.

[The East Marches II]

New Werpland made a post which he deleted as he is so wont to do, unfortunately I saw and had given a reply before he deleted it. It is below.


>Care for the common wealth more

Don't make me laugh, they are just slightly less vicious about it than the Republicans. I'll be sure to remember that phrase on Mr. Trump. At any rate, how can you really expect comments like this go over well with Union members in addition to them getting railed by that Obamacare tax that we keep putting off?

Afterall, I'm sure that "“My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders" is something that all Union members should support as being in their best interests right? :^]]]]]

It's true though open trade and open borders helps everybody and hurts certain people. Those people would be a burden on society if their industries were to be subsidized though. This is an unfortunate truth and there is no alternative unless we want to harm ourselves. There are exceptions to where this is applicable of course, like the steel industry, and those exceptions are never advocated by real members of the GOP in any meaningful way.

The Republicans want to kill unions while the Democrats help them in small ways that slow the decline. Like giving them token representation at trade union negotiation or appointing friendly people at the NLRB. Union members, I suspect, are motivated by identity politics and postmodernism (skepticism of the conventional but true narrative that Democrats are their friends) to vote for the GOP, but unions as institutions continue to support us due to their mechanical will to survive.

Its entirely false that open borders helps everybody, you need only look at the current migrant crisis for that :^] Free trade is another matter. The latter part of your argument as a case in point is why you aren't taken seriously among Union members anymore. As for the killing of Unions, in recent times that has proven to be false. The members are motivated by the will to keep their jobs alive, with the Democratic shift to open borders and trade regardless of whether it is equal, you can be sure they will vote against you. They won't support the democrats beyond the political machinations that keep certain people in charge for reasons of corruption as in Chicago. The member base will vote against them, because of that will to survive.

You are merely the decline, with no hope of a future. Who would vote for that?

[The East Marches II]

You know, when people delete their post, they usually deleted it for a reason. I deleted a post a minute ago because I realized I had misread something. I can't say exactly what went through Werp's mind when he decided to delete his post, but if he deleted it, then he probably doesn't want a reply.

He does this when he wants to land a blow but is wanting to avoid the aftermath, it is a consistent pattern.

[Senkaku]

Telconi only cares about unlimited firearm ownership. He's going to be very short of friends, I feel, in the future.

Well at least he'll be prepared to deal with his enemies haha.

Turns out in most situations there's better ways to deal with people you don't like than trying to shoot them.

Realistically you have two choices. Democrats are more my friend than Republicans are.

Telconi only cares about unlimited firearm ownership. He's going to be very short of friends, I feel, in the future.

No no, he's a REAL Dem/American and everyone else will come around anyyyyy second now

>Democrats are my friends.

That's a good one.

"but i'm a democrat ecks dee"- Tel

Because the GOP has a record of supporting the working man right? Us limousine liberals support unions, just without the rhetoric that gets people excited.

Example: More Democratic politicians are supportive of the recent tariffs than Republicans, iirc.

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This President certainly does :^]

The Democratic party killed support for tariffs nearly 30 years ago. You can't even make that little claim anymore. I do however have a nice graphic of what the party and its politicians did to labor

ya link is broken (or maybe my computer) bc I can't see no graphic

You know, when people delete their post, they usually deleted it for a reason. I deleted a post a minute ago because I realized I had misread something. I can't say exactly what went through Werp's mind when he decided to delete his post, but if he deleted it, then he probably doesn't want a reply.

It's a public forum. Someone puts something up and other people can reply to it, even if they later choose to take it down.

[Cekoviu]

Hey man. When the liberal SJW army comes knocking on your door, WHO YOU GONNA CALL?

LIB-BUSTERS!

>Liberal
>SJW

Please pick one, using two mutually exclusive adjectives is confusing.

Lolwut?

[Irona]

>Liberal
>SJW

Please pick one, using two mutually exclusive adjectives is confusing.

Lolwut?

The problem is nobody knows what an 'SJW' is. It means very different things depending upon who you ask.

[Corrian]

I have definitely seen the stereotypical SJW that everyone hates, but I also consider myself a "SJW" because that doesn't exactly sound like a bad thing if you don't take it to the extreme like you always have at least one person do.

[Irona]

I have definitely seen the stereotypical SJW that everyone hates, but I also consider myself a "SJW" because that doesn't exactly sound like a bad thing if you don't take it to the extreme like you always have at least one person do.

This is basically how I see it. But I know plenty of people who think SJW means abandoning economic issues to focus completely on social ones.

[Petrasylvania]

Lolwut?

The problem is nobody knows what an 'SJW' is. It means very different things depending upon who you ask.

And the people who declare hatred of SJWs almost always invoke the image of a loud, obese woman unironically.

[Kramanica]

Russia trying to play all sides for agitprop now means Bernie Sanders is Putin's drinking buddy.

Straw.

[Petrasylvania]

Russia trying to play all sides for agitprop now means Bernie Sanders is Putin's drinking buddy.

Straw.

Sure that wasn't what you were trying to subtly imply. :^]

[Johnson and Reid]

Lolwut?

The problem is nobody knows what an 'SJW' is. It means very different things depending upon who you ask.

To me it means someone who uses a convenient charge of "bigotry" or "privilege" instead of willing to have a nuanced debate on a given topic.

One of the people who participated in the infamous Charlottesville march is actually a student at my university. There were vehement calls among the progressive community on campus for his expulsion, and termination from the job he held with the school. Now, I think the cause he involved himself in was disgusting and evil. I'm a person of color and son of immigrants. But I am deeply uncomfortable with the notion someone can be removed from a college for having participated in a demonstration, even if he/she didn't threaten any students or call for violence.

I was happy when the administration refused to expel or fire him. But immediately, placards were placed throughout the university (from classrooms to bathroom stalls) saying that "this school protects racists."

I'm involved with the college Democrats and know others in the progressive community. So I'd hoped to engage some of these folks in a productive conversation about the first amendment and how far it goes. However, anytime the name of the person who went to the march came up, they always went on tirades about how the college was inherently bigoted, with the administration giving tacit support to racists. If a person mentioned free speech rights (even in devil's advocate), they were scoffed at or told "hate speech isn't free speech." No room for dialogue whatsoever.

This is what I would call "social justice warrior" territory. It's frustrating because I believe in things like universal health care, paid leave, LGBTQ+ rights, immigration justice, sensible gun regulations (that respect the 2nd amendment), and religious toleration. I couldn't be a member of the Republican Party in its current state. But I agree with conservatives when it comes to the issue of political correctness and over-sensitivity. We need to be able to debate things openly, without being judged and dismissed.

[Corrian]

Of course the Republican Party are absolute hypocrites on that whole thing as they support the biggest overly sensitive person of them all, Trump, but it isn't like this is a surprise.

[MERIZoC]

The Senate has blocked a motion that would end US involvement in the destruction of Yemen, a move only made possible with the help of 10 democrats. Scum of the earth....

[Valrifell]

The Senate has blocked a motion that would end US involvement in the destruction of Yemen, a move only made possible with the help of 10 democrats. Scum of the earth....

Perish the thought.

[Petrasylvania]

The Senate has blocked a motion that would end US involvement in the destruction of Yemen, a move only made possible with the help of 10 democrats. Scum of the earth....

And how many of those 10 are in safe blue states?

[Mujahidah]

The Senate has blocked a motion that would end US involvement in the destruction of Yemen, a move only made possible with the help of 10 democrats. Scum of the earth....

I see you back Shia extremists of any stripe, regardless of whether they are useful for ending the occupation of Al-Quds.

[MERIZoC]

The Senate has blocked a motion that would end US involvement in the destruction of Yemen, a move only made possible with the help of 10 democrats. Scum of the earth....

I see you back Shia extremists of any stripe, regardless of whether they are useful for ending the occupation of Al-Quds.

lol Saudi propaganda bullshit

The only extremists are the imperialists trying to destroy a country

[MERIZoC]

The Senate has blocked a motion that would end US involvement in the destruction of Yemen, a move only made possible with the help of 10 democrats. Scum of the earth....

And how many of those 10 are in safe blue states?

Why would that matter? "Oh no, now Joe Manchin can't win moderate voters from the GCC block"

[Collatis]

The Senate has blocked a motion that would end US involvement in the destruction of Yemen, a move only made possible with the help of 10 democrats. Scum of the earth....

I was pleasantly surprised by how close the vote was. Still very disappointing though.

[Bakery Hill]

The Senate has blocked a motion that would end US involvement in the destruction of Yemen, a move only made possible with the help of 10 democrats. Scum of the earth....

And how many of those 10 are in safe blue states?

What's your point?

[Bakery Hill]

The Senate has blocked a motion that would end US involvement in the destruction of Yemen, a move only made possible with the help of 10 democrats. Scum of the earth....

I see you back Shia extremists of any stripe, regardless of whether they are useful for ending the occupation of Al-Quds.

Good to see you back the sensible moderates of the GCC.

[Petrasylvania]

And how many of those 10 are in safe blue states?

What's your point?

That a Blue Dog in a Red State voting for the motion would probably be vulnerable in 2018.

[Bakery Hill]

What's your point?

That a Blue Dog in a Red State voting for the motion would probably be vulnerable in 2018.

I don't see why that needs to be the case. The War in Yemen is not a conservative issue.