The State of the Democratic Party II

[Telconi]

Trust me, the AFL-CIO's president hardly reflects the feelings of the millions of organized workers accross the country. The union voting bloc is defecting in large numbers, and breaking up.

Labor unions as institutions support Democrats. Some union members do not have their best interests on mind.

And labor unions as institutions don't get to vote. The union can officially endorse the Democratic candidate all they want, if 80% of the membership votes Republican it accomplished fucking nothing.

Also, the emphasized poration is exactly the attitude that is creating this problem.

[Geilinor]

Labor unions as institutions support Democrats. Some union members do not have their best interests on mind.

Of course, the Union guys at top know better than the members :^]

Your sort of course New Werpland, with their track record of success for the working man, do right?

You realize that the union guys at the top are elected?

[Geilinor]

Labor unions as institutions support Democrats. Some union members do not have their best interests on mind.

And labor unions as institutions don't get to vote. The union can officially endorse the Democratic candidate all they want, if 80% of the membership votes Republican it accomplished fucking nothing.

Do you have statistics on how the members voted? I don't mean anecdotes.

[The East Marches II]

Of course, the Union guys at top know better than the members :^]

Your sort of course New Werpland, with their track record of success for the working man, do right?

You realize that the union guys at the top are elected?

They are also politically controlled appointees by those of the Chicago machine. There is no small reason why the gentlemen at the top and those who supposedly voted for them diverged so massively in this last election. I'm sure I've linked you the politico article on the matter before.

[Improved werpland]

Labor unions as institutions support Democrats. Some union members do not have their best interests on mind.

Of course, the Union guys at top know better than the members :^]

Your sort of course New Werpland, with their track record of success for the working man, do right?

Because the GOP has a record of supporting the working man right? Us limousine liberals support unions, just without the rhetoric that gets people excited.

Example: More Democratic politicians are supportive of the recent tariffs than Republicans, iirc.

[The East Marches II]

Of course, the Union guys at top know better than the members :^]

Your sort of course New Werpland, with their track record of success for the working man, do right?

Because the GOP has a record of supporting the working man right? Us limousine liberals support unions, just without the rhetoric that gets people excited.

Example: More Democratic politicians are supportive of the recent tariffs than Republicans, iirc.

This President certainly does :^]

The Democratic party killed support for tariffs nearly 30 years ago. You can't even make that little claim anymore. I do however have a nice graphic of what the party and its politicians did to labor

[Telconi]

And labor unions as institutions don't get to vote. The union can officially endorse the Democratic candidate all they want, if 80% of the membership votes Republican it accomplished fucking nothing.

Do you have statistics on how the members voted? I don't mean anecdotes.

I have polling information, obviously they aren't required to report their vote to the union.

Our local (just shy of 8,000 members) voted by our estimates 84% for Trump or a third partier.

[Geilinor]

Do you have statistics on how the members voted? I don't mean anecdotes.

I have polling information, obviously they aren't required to report their vote to the union.

Our local (just shy of 8,000 members) voted by our estimates 84% for Trump or a third partier.

Can you link to the polling information here then?

[Telconi]

I have polling information, obviously they aren't required to report their vote to the union.

Our local (just shy of 8,000 members) voted by our estimates 84% for Trump or a third partier.

Can you link to the polling information here then?

I cannot.

[The East Marches II]

New Werpland made a post which he deleted as he is so wont to do, unfortunately I saw and had given a reply before he deleted it. It is below.


>Care for the common wealth more

Don't make me laugh, they are just slightly less vicious about it than the Republicans. I'll be sure to remember that phrase on Mr. Trump. At any rate, how can you really expect comments like this go over well with Union members in addition to them getting railed by that Obamacare tax that we keep putting off?

Afterall, I'm sure that "“My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders" is something that all Union members should support as being in their best interests right? :^]]]]]

[USS Monitor]

You know, when people delete their post, they usually deleted it for a reason. I deleted a post a minute ago because I realized I had misread something. I can't say exactly what went through Werp's mind when he decided to delete his post, but if he deleted it, then he probably doesn't want a reply.

[MERIZoC]

https://twitter.com/_saeen_/status/971277315945717760

What a disgusting individual. The party needs a fucking purge

Is he being serious? Cos calling that "insightful" is something I would do sarcastically and stick an eyeroll on the end.

It’s sarcasm

[Improved werpland]

New Werpland made a post which he deleted as he is so wont to do, unfortunately I saw and had given a reply before he deleted it. It is below.


>Care for the common wealth more

Don't make me laugh, they are just slightly less vicious about it than the Republicans. I'll be sure to remember that phrase on Mr. Trump. At any rate, how can you really expect comments like this go over well with Union members in addition to them getting railed by that Obamacare tax that we keep putting off?

Afterall, I'm sure that "“My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders" is something that all Union members should support as being in their best interests right? :^]]]]]

It's true though open trade and open borders helps everybody and hurts certain people. Those people would be a burden on society if their industries were to be subsidized though. This is an unfortunate truth and there is no alternative unless we want to harm ourselves. There are exceptions to where this is applicable of course, like the steel industry, and those exceptions are never advocated by real members of the GOP in any meaningful way.

The Republicans want to kill unions while the Democrats help them in small ways that slow the decline. Like giving them token representation at trade union negotiation or appointing friendly people at the NLRB. Union members, I suspect, are motivated by identity politics and postmodernism (skepticism of the conventional but true narrative that Democrats are their friends) to vote for the GOP, but unions as institutions continue to support us due to their mechanical will to survive.

[Telconi]

New Werpland made a post which he deleted as he is so wont to do, unfortunately I saw and had given a reply before he deleted it. It is below.


>Care for the common wealth more

Don't make me laugh, they are just slightly less vicious about it than the Republicans. I'll be sure to remember that phrase on Mr. Trump. At any rate, how can you really expect comments like this go over well with Union members in addition to them getting railed by that Obamacare tax that we keep putting off?

Afterall, I'm sure that "“My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders" is something that all Union members should support as being in their best interests right? :^]]]]]

It's true though open trade and open borders helps everybody and hurts certain people. Those people would be a burden on society if their industries were to be subsidized though. This is an unfortunate truth and there is no alternative unless we want to harm ourselves. There are exceptions to where this is applicable of course, like the steel industry, and those exceptions are never advocated by real members of the GOP in any meaningful way.

The Republicans want to kill unions while the Democrats help them in small ways that slow the decline. Like giving them token representation at trade union negotiation or appointing friendly people at the NLRB. Union members, I suspect, are motivated by identity politics and postmodernism (skepticism of the conventional but true narrative that Democrats are their friends) to vote for the GOP, but unions as institutions continue to support us due to their mechanical will to survive.

>Democrats are my friends.

That's a good one.

[Mujahidah]

It's true though open trade and open borders helps everybody and hurts certain people. Those people would be a burden on society if their industries were to be subsidized though. This is an unfortunate truth and there is no alternative unless we want to harm ourselves. There are exceptions to where this is applicable of course, like the steel industry, and those exceptions are never advocated by real members of the GOP in any meaningful way.

The Republicans want to kill unions while the Democrats help them in small ways that slow the decline. Like giving them token representation at trade union negotiation or appointing friendly people at the NLRB. Union members, I suspect, are motivated by identity politics and postmodernism (skepticism of the conventional but true narrative that Democrats are their friends) to vote for the GOP, but unions as institutions continue to support us due to their mechanical will to survive.

>Democrats are my friends.

That's a good one.

>Republicans are my friends

That's a good one.

[Telconi]

>Democrats are my friends.

That's a good one.

>Republicans are my friends

That's a good one.

Implying either one is...

[Mujahidah]

>Republicans are my friends

That's a good one.

Implying either one is...

Realistically you have two choices. Democrats are more my friend than Republicans are.

[Telconi]

Implying either one is...

Realistically you have two choices. Democrats are more my friend than Republicans are.

Probably, and as of late Republicans are more my friend than Democrats are, as much as that burns my butt.

[Conserative Morality]

Realistically you have two choices. Democrats are more my friend than Republicans are.

Telconi only cares about unlimited firearm ownership. He's going to be very short of friends, I feel, in the future.

[Improved werpland]

>Republicans are my friends

That's a good one.

Implying either one is...

>Relativism

You are only proving my point!

[Mujahidah]

Realistically you have two choices. Democrats are more my friend than Republicans are.

Telconi only cares about unlimited firearm ownership. He's going to be very short of friends, I feel, in the future.

Well at least he'll be prepared to deal with his enemies haha.

[Telconi]

Implying either one is...

>Relativism

You are only proving my point!

Which is what?

[Telconi]

Realistically you have two choices. Democrats are more my friend than Republicans are.

Telconi only cares about unlimited firearm ownership. He's going to be very short of friends, I feel, in the future.

I've got all the friends I need. Thanks for your concern tho...

[Conserative Morality]

I've got all the friends I need. Thank's for your concern tho...

Yes, yes, you've already informed us about how you're the equivalent of ten SWAT teams busting into your house in the middle of the night because you're just such a badass

[Telconi]

I've got all the friends I need. Thank's for your concern tho...

Yes, yes, you've already informed us about how you're the equivalent of ten SWAT teams busting into your house in the middle of the night because you're just such a badass

Riiiiight...