The State of the Democratic Party II

by **Post War America** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:11 pm

Johnson and Reid wrote:I'll be voting Democratic regardless of nominee, but I am really hoping Biden gets the nomination. He has years of legislative/executive branch experience and has the ability to connect with Obama-turned-Trump voters in the Rust Belt states. Plus, he seems like a fundamentally decent human being.

He's a bit old though, which tbf, is a huge problem for Democrats in general that I'd hope gets resolved soon.

by **Ngelmish** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:45 pm

Post War America wrote:
Johnson and Reid wrote:I'll be voting Democratic regardless of nominee, but I am really hoping Biden gets the nomination. He has years of legislative/executive branch experience and has the ability to connect with Obama-turned-Trump voters in the Rust Belt states. Plus, he seems like a fundamentally decent human being.

He's a bit old though, which tbf, is a huge problem for Democrats in general that I'd hope gets resolved soon.

Warren, Biden and Sanders are the only people likely to run (I'll worry about less likely prospects if they actually, y'know, do run) who would plausibly run into the age problem. And they may not even all run. I'm not yet convinced that it's something Democrats should be worried about. It's not clear that Biden or Sanders current prominence in polls is more a reflection of name recognition or of genuine enthusiasm. They get mentioned a lot, because a lot of people in the country already know who they are and have opinions on them. That front-runner status might actually reflect a general openness to somebody new.

by **Eibenland** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:45 pm

Bakery Hill wrote:
Johnson and Reid wrote:I'll be voting Democratic regardless of nominee, but I am really hoping Biden gets the nomination. He has years of legislative/executive branch experience and has the ability to connect with Obama-turned-Trump voters in the Rust Belt states. Plus, he seems like a fundamentally decent human being.

How does he have this ability out of interest?

He's originally from an industrial city in Pennsylvania.

by **Bakery Hill** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:53 pm

Eibenland wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:How does he have this ability out of interest?

He's originally from an industrial city in Pennsylvania.

And?

by **Freezic Vast** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:04 pm

Eibenland wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:How does he have this ability out of interest?

He's originally from an industrial city in Pennsylvania.

And that city of Scranton has been Democratic leaning for decades, I should know, I live about 30 minutes from Scranton.

by **Mujahidah** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:10 pm

Freezic Vast wrote:
Eibenland wrote:He's originally from an industrial city in Pennsylvania.

And that city of Scranton has been Democratic leaning for decades, I should know, I live about 30 minutes from Scranton.

Which is why we were talking about Obama --> Trump voters - Blue Collar Dems who flipped red.

by **Improved werpland** » Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:27 pm

Very interesting read on Tulsi Gabbard's cultist links.

Curiously, this reporter also learned last month that D.C. publicist Chris Cooper of The Potomac Square Group was hired to write a letter on Rep. Gabbard’s behalf in July 2017 to a mainstream news editor here in Hawai'i. The apparent intent of the letter was to discredit this reporter and prevent this series from being published in Hawai'i's mainstream news media.

Incidentally, in 2016, the same Chris Cooper was hired by Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya’s Human Rights Accountability Global Initiative Foundation (HRAGIF) to promote a Russian docudrama aimed at reversing U.S. sanctions against Putin and his associates. (Veselnitskaya and HRAGIF also happen to be at the heart of the U.S. Justice Department’s current Special Counsel investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 Presidential election.)

So apparently she and that Russian lawyer who met with Trump hired the same person to do questionable things.

by **Kramanica** » Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:39 pm

MERIZoC wrote:
Kramanica wrote:Sanders silent on claim that Russia backed him in 2016
Oh, Bernie...

lmao talk about a leading headline

"Kramanica silent on claim that he's a rapist and a serial killer. Why won't he acknowledge this?? What's he hiding??"

The indictment revealed that the efforts included “operations primarily intended to communicate derogatory information about Hillary Clinton, to denigrate other candidates such as Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, and to support Bernie Sanders and then-candidate Donald Trump.”

by **Kramanica** » Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:39 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Kramanica wrote:Sanders silent on claim that Russia backed him in 2016
Oh, Bernie...

Talk about assuming your conclusion there Kram.

The indictment revealed that the efforts included “operations primarily intended to communicate derogatory information about Hillary Clinton, to denigrate other candidates such as Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, and to support Bernie Sanders and then-candidate Donald Trump.”

by **Petrasylvania** » Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:49 pm

Kramanica wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Talk about assuming your conclusion there Kram.

The indictment revealed that the efforts included “operations primarily intended to communicate derogatory information about Hillary Clinton, to denigrate other candidates such as Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, and to support Bernie Sanders and then-candidate Donald Trump.”

Russia trying to play all sides for agitprop now means Bernie Sanders is Putin's drinking buddy.

by **MERIZoC** » Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:55 am

https://twitter.com/_saeen_/status/971277315945717760

What a disgusting individual. The party needs a fucking purge

by **Mujahidah** » Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:58 am

MERIZoC wrote:https://twitter.com/_saeen_/status/971277315945717760

What a disgusting individual. The party needs a fucking purge

Thats not even true. Muslims most certainly do believe in the Torah - its just that its revelation is subordinate to that of the Holy Qur'an.

Last.FM · by **Corrian** » Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:01 am

MERIZoC wrote:https://twitter.com/_saeen_/status/971277315945717760

What a disgusting individual. The party needs a fucking purge

For multiple reasons

by **Ism** » Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:03 am

Corrian wrote:
MERIZoC wrote:https://twitter.com/_saeen_/status/971277315945717760

What a disgusting individual. The party needs a fucking purge

For multiple reasons

Ironically, Schumer’s on the right side of that one.

by **USS Monitor** » Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:15 pm

MERIZoC wrote:https://twitter.com/_saeen_/status/971277315945717760

What a disgusting individual. The party needs a fucking purge

Is he being serious? Cos calling that "insightful" is something I would do sarcastically and stick an eyeroll on the end. :blink:

by **Improved werpland** » Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:06 pm

Bakery Hill wrote:
Eibenland wrote:He's originally from an industrial city in Pennsylvania.

And?

Labor unions support him.

by **Geilinor** » Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:11 pm

Corrian wrote:
MERIZoC wrote:https://twitter.com/_saeen_/status/971277315945717760

What a disgusting individual. The party needs a fucking purge

For multiple reasons

His name is on the list of people who voted against.

Last.FM · by **Corrian** » Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:13 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Corrian wrote:For multiple reasons

His name is on the list of people who voted against.

I wasn't talking about Schumer here. I was referring to the "party needs a fucking purge".

by **Telconi** » Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:14 pm

Improved werpland wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:And?

Labor unions support him.

Labor unions support Trump too...

by **Geilinor** » Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:16 pm

Telconi wrote:
Improved werpland wrote:Labor unions support him.

Labor unions support Trump too...

No, they don't. http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/business-a-lobbying/370289-afl-cio-president-trump-has-been-a-disappointment

by **Telconi** » Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:17 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Labor unions support Trump too...

No, they don't. http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/business-a-lobbying/370289-afl-cio-president-trump-has-been-a-disappointment

Muh hive mind...

by **Geilinor** » Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:18 pm

Telconi wrote:
Geilinor wrote:No, they don't. http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/business-a-lobbying/370289-afl-cio-president-trump-has-been-a-disappointment

Muh hive mind...

The fact is that most unions are not fans of Trump, especially after the tax bill.

by **Telconi** » Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:21 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Muh hive mind...

The fact is that most unions are not fans of Trump, especially after the tax bill.

Trust me, the AFL-CIO's president hardly reflects the feelings of the millions of organized workers accross the country. The union voting bloc is defecting in large numbers, and breaking up.

by **Improved werpland** » Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:36 pm

Telconi wrote:
Geilinor wrote:The fact is that most unions are not fans of Trump, especially after the tax bill.

Trust me, the AFL-CIO's president hardly reflects the feelings of the millions of organized workers accross the country. The union voting bloc is defecting in large numbers, and breaking up.

Labor unions as institutions support Democrats. Some union members do not have their best interests on mind.

by **The East Marches II** » Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:37 pm

Improved werpland wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Trust me, the AFL-CIO's president hardly reflects the feelings of the millions of organized workers accross the country. The union voting bloc is defecting in large numbers, and breaking up.

Labor unions as institutions support Democrats. Some union members do not have their best interests on mind.

Of course, the Union guys at top know better than the members :^]

Your sort of course New Werpland, with their track record of success for the working man, do right?

The State of the Democratic Party II

Who are your preferred potential 2020 Democratic contenders?

Who is online