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The State of the Democratic Party II

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Who are your preferred potential 2020 Democratic contenders?

Bernie Sanders
150
29%
Joe Biden
99
19%
Elizabeth Warren
77
15%
Martin O'Malley
32
6%
Cory Booker
34
7%
Kirsten Gillibrand
23
4%
Kamala Harris
42
8%
Andrew Cuomo
15
3%
Chris Murphy
13
3%
Sherrod Brown
28
5%
 
Total votes : 513

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Postby Genivaria » Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:08 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:

In fairness she was hot back in the 90s.

Kinda.
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Postby Crockerland » Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:38 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:

In fairness she was hot back in the 90s.

Evidently not as hot as Monica Lewinsky.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:40 pm

Crockerland wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:In fairness she was hot back in the 90s.

Evidently not as hot as Monica Lewinsky.

Billy Bob Thornton was married to Angelina Jolie and still cheated. Some men just can't have enough.
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Postby The Rich Port » Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:46 pm

Crockerland wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:In fairness she was hot back in the 90s.

Evidently not as hot as Monica Lewinsky.


It is not Bill Clinton's fault that he could talk Nelson Mandela into giving him a handjob.

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Postby USS Monitor » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:22 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Sanctissima wrote:
Oh, maybe it's different in the US.

Did you go to public school? In Canada, parents generally only pay for basic school supplies (paper, pencils, pens, binders, etc.). It usually doesn't cost that much, maybe $100.00 bucks a year.

What did they make your mother pay for?

They don't make you buy the textbooks?


I'm from the US and I never had to buy textbooks in K-12.
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Postby Corrian » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:28 pm

This is somehow the weirdest discussion in this thread.
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:44 pm

USS Monitor wrote:
Genivaria wrote:They don't make you buy the textbooks?


I'm from the US and I never had to buy textbooks in K-12.

My mother had to.

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Postby USS Monitor » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:48 pm

Genivaria wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
I'm from the US and I never had to buy textbooks in K-12.

My mother had to.


Weird. :blink:
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Postby Corrian » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:51 pm

Genivaria wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
I'm from the US and I never had to buy textbooks in K-12.

My mother had to.

Probably Texas' fault.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:53 pm

Genivaria wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
I'm from the US and I never had to buy textbooks in K-12.

My mother had to.


What years did she have to do that? I've never heard of such a thing.
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:54 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Genivaria wrote:My mother had to.


What years did she have to do that? I've never heard of such a thing.

Apologies, I just asked, she simply had to pay if they were lost or damaged.
My mistake.

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Postby Ism » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:54 pm

USS Monitor wrote:
Genivaria wrote:They don't make you buy the textbooks?


I'm from the US and I never had to buy textbooks in K-12.


Same, unless a book was lost/ruined. Then we had to cover cost of replacing it. Other than that textbooks and novels and the like were free.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:55 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
What years did she have to do that? I've never heard of such a thing.

Apologies, I just asked, she simply had to pay if they were lost or damaged.
My mistake.


Ah, that makes more sense. I was about to say that Texas is really bad :lol:
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:56 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Apologies, I just asked, she simply had to pay if they were lost or damaged.
My mistake.


Ah, that makes more sense. I was about to say that Texas is really bad :lol:

You can say that regardless.

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Postby USS Monitor » Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:02 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
What years did she have to do that? I've never heard of such a thing.

Apologies, I just asked, she simply had to pay if they were lost or damaged.
My mistake.


Ah, that's the same as Maryland, then.
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Postby Tyrassueb » Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:40 am

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:42 am

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Postby Corrian » Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:31 am


I am sure it is done out of political convenience, but I don't even care. Anything that gets rid of this shit. Good on them. I hope they stick with it and prove it.
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:48 am



Tbqh, I'm a little shocked Booker did that politically convenient or not.
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Postby Post War America » Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:49 am

USS Monitor wrote:
Genivaria wrote:They don't make you buy the textbooks?


I'm from the US and I never had to buy textbooks in K-12.


You're also from Massachusetts, a Commonwealth that actually spends money on education rather than expecting the Fed to do it all for them.
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:07 am


I think there's going to be alot of pressure from the leftist wing for this to be a litmus test for all the Dem candidates.

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Postby Myrensis » Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:16 am

Genivaria wrote:

I think there's going to be alot of pressure from the leftist wing for this to be a litmus test for all the Dem candidates.


So is the plan just to have all the Democratic candidates tell loud obnoxious offensive lies in the hope that they'll get billions of dollars of free coverage from the media? Otherwise lack of money tends to equal lack of media presence and exposure, and as Trump has spent the last 2 years demonstrating the average voter has the attention span of a particularly dim goldfish.

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Postby Ism » Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:58 am

Myrensis wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I think there's going to be alot of pressure from the leftist wing for this to be a litmus test for all the Dem candidates.


So is the plan just to have all the Democratic candidates tell loud obnoxious offensive lies in the hope that they'll get billions of dollars of free coverage from the media? Otherwise lack of money tends to equal lack of media presence and exposure, and as Trump has spent the last 2 years demonstrating the average voter has the attention span of a particularly dim goldfish.


I guess the expectation is for a Sanders-style funding machine. Not sure how well that will work though, especially if there’s a wide field in 2020.

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Postby Post War America » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:54 am

Myrensis wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I think there's going to be alot of pressure from the leftist wing for this to be a litmus test for all the Dem candidates.


So is the plan just to have all the Democratic candidates tell loud obnoxious offensive lies in the hope that they'll get billions of dollars of free coverage from the media? Otherwise lack of money tends to equal lack of media presence and exposure, and as Trump has spent the last 2 years demonstrating the average voter has the attention span of a particularly dim goldfish.


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Postby USS Monitor » Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:06 pm

Corrian wrote:

I am sure it is done out of political convenience, but I don't even care. Anything that gets rid of this shit. Good on them. I hope they stick with it and prove it.


Doing it now, before it's even clear if they're going to run for president in 2020, means either they sincerely respect the principle of it or, if they are doing it for political convenience, at least they are paying attention and planning ahead.

This actually doesn't change my opinion of Gillibrand or Booker. I still dislike Gillibrand for reasons that have nothing to do with PAC money, and I still think Booker is a decent dude.
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