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Is it wrong to pull this prank?

Postby Australian rePublic » Sat Dec 16, 2017 5:54 am

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GLBvXnGo8fw

THIS IS AN ETHICAL DISCUSSION, NOT A LEGAL ONE
There was a prank where somebody left a bike ready to be stolen, and removed the brakes from that bike, leaving the theift to tumble down the hill and get serverly injured. The their was left to tumble down the hill and get very injured in the process. Do you think it is unethical to pull such a prank. I do. I know the thieves have committed a crime, but no matter how harsh the crime committed Is, nobody deserves to cop that kind of injury. The riders of the stolen bikes could have potentionally gotten really injured and badly hurt themselves. Regardless of crime, no human being deserves such treatment. What do you think NSG?
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Postby The Batavia » Sat Dec 16, 2017 5:56 am

Australian Republic wrote:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GLBvXnGo8fw

THIS IS AN ETHICAL DISCUSSION, NOT A LEGAL ONE
There was a prank where somebody left a bike ready to be stolen, and removed the brakes from that bike, leaving the theift to tumble down the hill and get serverly injured. The their was left to tumble down the hill and get very injured in the process. Do you think it is unethical to pull such a prank. I do. I know the thieves have committed a crime, but no matter how harsh the crime committed Is, nobody deserves to cop that kind of injury. The riders of the stolen bikes could have potentionally gotten really injured and badly hurt themselves. Regardless of crime, no human being deserves such treatment. What do you think NSG?

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Postby Dominatus (Ancient) » Sat Dec 16, 2017 5:56 am

If he steals something that isn't his, he deserves it. If you break into someone's home and steal all their stuff, but the owner shoots you dead... Tough shit. You committed a crime, you got what you deserved.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:11 am

Dominatus wrote:If he steals something that isn't his, he deserves it. If you break into someone's home and steal all their stuff, but the owner shoots you dead... Tough shit. You committed a crime, you got what you deserved.

What is it with you Americans and your guns? Either case, you should never shoot anyone unless it's a last minute absolutely necessary only way out situation where you beleive your life and/or the life of others is in immediate danger and there are no other options
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Postby Dominatus (Ancient) » Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:17 am

Australian Republic wrote:
Dominatus wrote:If he steals something that isn't his, he deserves it. If you break into someone's home and steal all their stuff, but the owner shoots you dead... Tough shit. You committed a crime, you got what you deserved.

What is it with you Americans and your guns? Either case, you should never shoot anyone unless it's a last minute absolutely necessary only way out situation where you beleive your life and/or the life of others is in immediate danger and there are no other options


I never said either case. If the guy steals your bike and breaks his leg, that's his problem. If someone trespasses on your property, tell them to get away or you'll call the cops. But if someone tries to kidnap your son, you should be able to shoot the guy.
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Postby Alanis Star » Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:18 am

Doesn't seem right. Some people should be punished for stealing a bike, but as the title suggests, this is baiting in the sense that it is bringing the bad side of a person. It could have gone worse, like a broken bone, fracture... death.
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Postby Kenmoria » Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:20 am

Australian Republic wrote:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GLBvXnGo8fw

THIS IS AN ETHICAL DISCUSSION, NOT A LEGAL ONE
There was a prank where somebody left a bike ready to be stolen, and removed the brakes from that bike, leaving the theift to tumble down the hill and get serverly injured. The their was left to tumble down the hill and get very injured in the process. Do you think it is unethical to pull such a prank. I do. I know the thieves have committed a crime, but no matter how harsh the crime committed Is, nobody deserves to cop that kind of injury. The riders of the stolen bikes could have potentionally gotten really injured and badly hurt themselves. Regardless of crime, no human being deserves such treatment. What do you think NSG?

At the end of the day, the thief committed a crime and deserves to have punishment. Even if they did get badly hurt, they brought it upon themselves by stealing their bike in the first place.
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Postby The Foxes Swamp » Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:20 am

its not a prank, its criminal negligence.
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Postby Dominatus (Ancient) » Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:24 am

Alanis Star wrote:Doesn't seem right. Some people should be punished for stealing a bike, but as the title suggests, this is baiting in the sense that it is bringing the bad side of a person. It could have gone worse, like a broken bone, fracture... death.


I don't get it. One night, I saw a car with its doors wide open at like 8:00pm and I closed the doors without taking anything. Just because it's there doesn't mean the person who left the bike unlocked is at fault for "bringing the worst out of someone". That can also be related to sexual assault cases. Just because the woman is wearing a tight dress doesn't mean you rape her. Prank or not, the thief had no clue that it was a prank and did it knowingly that it was a crime.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:25 am

The Foxes Swamp wrote:its not a prank, its criminal negligence.


I could actually see this argument winning in court depending on a number of things tbh.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:26 am

I mean yes, it is against a thief, and thiefs are assholes but:

A: This may or may not be assault.

B: It would strain medical systems.

C: Pranks are meant to be harmless funny things, not whatever it's been corrupted to today.

Pranks should be, Surprise Snowball / water gun/water ballon attacks,whoopie cushions, pies to the face, bunny ears in photos, surprise perfume spray (if victim isn't allergic of course) , ect.

Not hurting people. This is just more unfunny corruption. Sad.


We need to Make Pranks Great Again.

Stop the corruption, drain the swamp of bad hurtful pranks.

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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:31 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:I mean yes, it is against a thief, and thiefs are assholes but:

A: This may or may not be assault.

B: It would strain medical systems.

C: Pranks are meant to be harmless funny things, not whatever it's been corrupted to today.

Pranks should be, Surprise Snowball / water gun/water ballon attacks,whoopie cushions, pies to the face, bunny ears in photos, surprise perfume spray (if victim isn't allergic of course) , ect.

Not hurting people. This is just more unfunny corruption. Sad.


We need to Make Pranks Great Again.

Stop the corruption, drain the swamp of bad hurtful pranks.

I'm being both serious and jokeing at the same time.

Pranks should be harmless.
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Postby Great Nepal » Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:33 am

Meh... I'm going with "let the thief beware" - there is no reasonable expectation that something you steal will be safe for use.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:36 am

Kenmoria wrote:
Australian Republic wrote:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GLBvXnGo8fw

THIS IS AN ETHICAL DISCUSSION, NOT A LEGAL ONE
There was a prank where somebody left a bike ready to be stolen, and removed the brakes from that bike, leaving the theift to tumble down the hill and get serverly injured. The their was left to tumble down the hill and get very injured in the process. Do you think it is unethical to pull such a prank. I do. I know the thieves have committed a crime, but no matter how harsh the crime committed Is, nobody deserves to cop that kind of injury. The riders of the stolen bikes could have potentionally gotten really injured and badly hurt themselves. Regardless of crime, no human being deserves such treatment. What do you think NSG?

At the end of the day, the thief committed a crime and deserves to have punishment. Even if they did get badly hurt, they brought it upon themselves by stealing their bike in the first place.

The person should be punished, but server physical torture is not the answer. Server physical torture is never the answer in any circumstance, ever. Prison isn't even that harsh, and rightly so, prison shouldn't be that harsh
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Postby Gyrenaica » Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:36 am

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Postby Gyrenaica » Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:39 am

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Postby Annihitor the Incred » Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:40 am

So, the perpetrator got onto someone else's bike without checking for usability, thus getting wrecked due to his own actions. I do not see why the reason for the brakes' absence should matter here. They may just as easily have been removed two years ago by another thief, still leading to the same result. They may have broken due to age. The person deciding to do the deed bears the full responsibility for the deed's direct result.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:52 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:I mean yes, it is against a thief, and thiefs are assholes but:

A: This may or may not be assault.

B: It would strain medical systems.

C: Pranks are meant to be harmless funny things, not whatever it's been corrupted to today.

Pranks should be, Surprise Snowball / water gun/water ballon attacks,whoopie cushions, pies to the face, bunny ears in photos, surprise perfume spray (if victim isn't allergic of course) , ect.

Not hurting people. This is just more unfunny corruption. Sad.


We need to Make Pranks Great Again.

Stop the corruption, drain the swamp of bad hurtful pranks.

I'm being both serious and jokeing at the same time.

Pranks should be harmless.

They should.

Youtube turned them into "Just a prank bro" and child abuse like Daddy of 5 was doing.

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:55 am

I am not responsible for other people's stupidity and maliciousness. This is OK.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:01 am

Not seeing an issue with it. Sometimes a painful learned lesson is a long lasting learned lesson.

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Postby Purpelia » Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:46 am

All pranks are evil by definition. It is literally deliberately setting out to cheat someone. Therefore the act of pranking alone should already be a crime in the same rank as forgery or embezzlement.

In this particular case I would also add premeditated attempted murder to the list.
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Postby The Federation of Kendor » Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:53 am

Purpelia wrote:All pranks are evil by definition. It is literally deliberately setting out to cheat someone. Therefore the act of pranking alone should already be a crime in the same rank as forgery or embezzlement.

In this particular case I would also add premeditated attempted murder to the list.

Does that mean that if you do any pranks, like dropping a water bucket on top of a person, will get the offender some months to years in prison (I saw that people punished by embezzlement and forgery got some years of prison time)
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The Federation of Kendor wrote:
Purpelia wrote:All pranks are evil by definition. It is literally deliberately setting out to cheat someone. Therefore the act of pranking alone should already be a crime in the same rank as forgery or embezzlement.

In this particular case I would also add premeditated attempted murder to the list.

Does that mean that if you do any pranks, like dropping a water bucket on top of a person, will get the offender some months to years in prison (I saw that people punished by embezzlement and forgery got some years of prison time)

Nah. Those pranks aren't about tricking people but about hurting them. For that sort of think you should get sued for assault.
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Postby The Federation of Kendor » Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:58 am

Purpelia wrote:
The Federation of Kendor wrote:Does that mean that if you do any pranks, like dropping a water bucket on top of a person, will get the offender some months to years in prison (I saw that people punished by embezzlement and forgery got some years of prison time)

Nah. Those pranks aren't about tricking people but about hurting them. For that sort of think you should get sued for assault.

So, any pranks are crimes to you. Does that mean people who do that kind of pranks deserved to be sentence for some months in the prison (I also saw that offenders who committed assault got sentenced to some months of imprisonment to years)
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