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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Sat Jan 06, 2018 8:05 am

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Pax Nerdvana wrote:One drawback to gas is they can cause a gas explosion.


I was also gonna comment that not every house is connected to gas network, but then I realized that cooking gas is probably delivered in pressurized barrels, like gas grills have. And our gas stove/oven at cottage has.

Still, gas explosions.
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Postby USS Monitor » Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:47 am

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Immoren wrote:
I was also gonna comment that not every house is connected to gas network, but then I realized that cooking gas is probably delivered in pressurized barrels, like gas grills have. And our gas stove/oven at cottage has.

Still, gas explosions.


That's why they add a smell to the gas, so that you can tell when it's leaking and do something about it BEFORE you blow your house up.
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Postby Katganistan » Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:48 am

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Katganistan wrote:Well, if it's proper natural casing, you're eating intestine.

You say that as if it was a bad thing. As if you've newer eaten intestine cooked or fried.

As said, what sets MC-vomit apart from the rest is that they wash it out in chemicals like hydrogen peroxide. That thing don't go in your sausage.

I never said I haven't eaten it. I prefer natural casing hot dogs -- not that they are easy to find. I've also eaten haggis, thanks, which is a stuffed sheep's stomach, and tripe is lovely too. I'm saying some people don't know what is in the food they eat -- and that yes, insect bits and rat hairs are allowed in food prep.

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Postby Katganistan » Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:52 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Risottia wrote:Gas all the way. Electric fires cost way too much here.
Electric ovens are better, tho.


Powdered garlic is bloody blasphemy. Thou shalt use fresh garlic ir none at all.

One drawback to gas is they can cause a gas explosion.


In 43 years of cooking with gas, (yes, I helped when I was seven) I have never had a gas explosion.

Well, anywhere but in the bathroom, after a heavy meal.

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Postby Katganistan » Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:53 am

Immoren wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:One drawback to gas is they can cause a gas explosion.


I was also gonna comment that not every house is connected to gas network, but then I realized that cooking gas is probably delivered in pressurized barrels, like gas grills have. And our gas stove/oven at cottage has.


Where I live, natural gas is pumped into people's homes for the purposes of heating and cooking.

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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Jan 06, 2018 11:05 am

Katganistan wrote:
Immoren wrote:
I was also gonna comment that not every house is connected to gas network, but then I realized that cooking gas is probably delivered in pressurized barrels, like gas grills have. And our gas stove/oven at cottage has.


Where I live, natural gas is pumped into people's homes for the purposes of heating and cooking.

Same. Gas heat is wonderful
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Postby USS Monitor » Sat Jan 06, 2018 11:06 am

And gas stoves are good for cooking in a wok.
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Postby Katganistan » Sat Jan 06, 2018 11:10 am

USS Monitor wrote:And gas stoves are good for cooking in a wok.

Indeed. Do you have one with the ring that suspends your wok above the gas, or do you use a mostly-rounded flat bottom pan that sits on the hob?

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Postby USS Monitor » Sat Jan 06, 2018 11:29 am

Katganistan wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:And gas stoves are good for cooking in a wok.

Indeed. Do you have one with the ring that suspends your wok above the gas, or do you use a mostly-rounded flat bottom pan that sits on the hob?


I actually have an electric stove at my current place, but I've had gas stoves at other places I lived, and those ones that suspend the wok above the gas are great.
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Postby Risottia » Sat Jan 06, 2018 11:29 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Risottia wrote:Gas all the way. Electric fires cost way too much here.
Electric ovens are better, tho.


Powdered garlic is bloody blasphemy. Thou shalt use fresh garlic ir none at all.

One drawback to gas is they can cause a gas explosion.

With methane that's basically impossible, unless your home is perfectly airtight. One of the basic (and mandatory) safety features for methane is having ventilation slots in the wall or windows, so eventual leakages just seep away and can never reach the concentration needed for an explosion.
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Sat Jan 06, 2018 12:00 pm

Risottia wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:One drawback to gas is they can cause a gas explosion.

With methane that's basically impossible, unless your home is perfectly airtight. One of the basic (and mandatory) safety features for methane is having ventilation slots in the wall or windows, so eventual leakages just seep away and can never reach the concentration needed for an explosion.

There are other kinds of gas too.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Jan 06, 2018 12:04 pm

Risottia wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:One drawback to gas is they can cause a gas explosion.

With methane that's basically impossible, unless your home is perfectly airtight. One of the basic (and mandatory) safety features for methane is having ventilation slots in the wall or windows, so eventual leakages just seep away and can never reach the concentration needed for an explosion.


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Postby Risottia » Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:44 pm

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Risottia wrote:With methane that's basically impossible, unless your home is perfectly airtight. One of the basic (and mandatory) safety features for methane is having ventilation slots in the wall or windows, so eventual leakages just seep away and can never reach the concentration needed for an explosion.

There are other kinds of gas too.

Well, if you use gaseous hydrazine, that's your problem. And your neighbours'.

Seriously, who does still use propane in homes?


Did they have ventilation slots?
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Postby Al-Ismailiyya » Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:50 pm

Risottia wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:There are other kinds of gas too.

Well, if you use gaseous hydrazine, that's your problem. And your neighbours'.

Seriously, who does still use propane in homes?

Basically everyone around where I live. According to the EIA, 10% of US homes use propane.

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Postby Risottia » Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:58 pm

Al-Ismailiyya wrote:
Risottia wrote:Well, if you use gaseous hydrazine, that's your problem. And your neighbours'.

Seriously, who does still use propane in homes?

Basically everyone around where I live. According to the EIA, 10% of US homes use propane.

Weird. :blink:

Anyway, back to topic, I tried induction fires while abroad, but I'm not too keen on them. I'm just too used to the kind of heat propagation you get with actual fires.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:03 pm

Risottia wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:There are other kinds of gas too.

Well, if you use gaseous hydrazine, that's your problem. And your neighbours'.

Seriously, who does still use propane in homes?


Did they have ventilation slots?



some rural locations here will use propane heat
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Postby Katganistan » Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:16 pm

Yes, I agree -- actual cloves of garlic, Risottia.

And yes -- I can tell by looking at the height of the flames if it's at the right heat to cook whatever I am cooking. I don't care for electric burners because I can't "see" how hot it is and have to trust in the numbers on the knobs being properly calibrated.

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Postby Purpelia » Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:21 pm

Katganistan wrote:Yes, I agree -- actual cloves of garlic, Risottia.

And yes -- I can tell by looking at the height of the flames if it's at the right heat to cook whatever I am cooking. I don't care for electric burners because I can't "see" how hot it is and have to trust in the numbers on the knobs being properly calibrated.

On the other hand electric burners have the benefit of staying hot even after they are shut down. So you can heat something up to a boil and turn the burner off and it will still keep burning and slowly simmer down over a much longer period of time than with a gas fire (And you can get a similar effect by turning the button down once you heat the burner up). This technique is indispensable for my cooking.
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Postby Katganistan » Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:23 pm

Risottia wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:One drawback to gas is they can cause a gas explosion.

With methane that's basically impossible, unless your home is perfectly airtight. One of the basic (and mandatory) safety features for methane is having ventilation slots in the wall or windows, so eventual leakages just seep away and can never reach the concentration needed for an explosion.


They also add a sulfurous smell to it here, so if there is a leak, you KNOW it. You're to leave the house -- leaving the door open -- and call from outside to avoid a spark, so that they can cut the gas and fix the leak.

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Postby Purpelia » Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:27 pm

Katganistan wrote:
Risottia wrote:With methane that's basically impossible, unless your home is perfectly airtight. One of the basic (and mandatory) safety features for methane is having ventilation slots in the wall or windows, so eventual leakages just seep away and can never reach the concentration needed for an explosion.


They also add a sulfurous smell to it here, so if there is a leak, you KNOW it. You're to leave the house -- leaving the door open -- and call from outside to avoid a spark, so that they can cut the gas and fix the leak.

How does that not make your food smell bad?
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:28 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Katganistan wrote:
They also add a sulfurous smell to it here, so if there is a leak, you KNOW it. You're to leave the house -- leaving the door open -- and call from outside to avoid a spark, so that they can cut the gas and fix the leak.

How does that not make your food smell bad?


It burns off. It doesn't affect the food, even if you cook something directly over the flame.

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Postby Purpelia » Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:30 pm

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Purpelia wrote:How does that not make your food smell bad?


It burns off. It doesn't affect the food, even if you cook something directly over the flame.

But you must still sense it while cooking.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:32 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
It burns off. It doesn't affect the food, even if you cook something directly over the flame.

But you must still sense it while cooking.


Nope. If you did then it would be useless. The point of the smell is to detect leaking gas, not gas burning as it should.
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Postby Purpelia » Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:37 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Purpelia wrote:But you must still sense it while cooking.


Nope. If you did then it would be useless. The point of the smell is to detect leaking gas, not gas burning as it should.

Either way I'd rather deal with an electrical fire than a chemical explosion. If for no other reason than because I already have so many electrical appliances in my home that can start a fire that adding another won't change much.
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:38 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Nope. If you did then it would be useless. The point of the smell is to detect leaking gas, not gas burning as it should.

Either way I'd rather deal with an electrical fire than a chemical explosion. If for no other reason than because I already have so many electrical appliances in my home that can start a fire that adding another won't change much.

That makes sense.
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