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Dylar
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Postby Dylar » Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:55 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
New Greater Netherlands wrote:
Poland?

Poland has closed borders? That is news to me. I can literally cross from Germany into Poland without any obstacles to stop me...

I think he means the whole "We're not taking any immigrants or refugees."
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Postby Dominatus (Ancient) » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:00 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:They are treating him yes? Then it doesn't matter what the peanut gallery thinks

True but its truly sad how uninformed and mean people can be.


Uninformed? The guy should be shot, not treated. If he's a terrorist, he doesn't deserve rights. It's called common sense. I hope he dies on that table.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:01 pm

Dominatus wrote:
San Lumen wrote:True but its truly sad how uninformed and mean people can be.


Uninformed? The guy should be shot, not treated. If he's a terrorist, he doesn't deserve rights. It's called common sense. I hope he dies on that table.


So you want to make a martyr of him to inspire others?
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:03 pm

Dylar wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Poland has closed borders? That is news to me. I can literally cross from Germany into Poland without any obstacles to stop me...

I think he means the whole "We're not taking any immigrants or refugees."


I could easily migrate to Poland if I want to.
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New Greater Netherlands
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Postby New Greater Netherlands » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:03 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
New Greater Netherlands wrote:
Poland?

Poland has closed borders? That is news to me. I can literally cross from Germany into Poland without any obstacles to stop me...


Why aren't there any terrorists and terrorist attacks then in Poland?
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The New California Republic
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:03 pm

Dominatus wrote:
San Lumen wrote:True but its truly sad how uninformed and mean people can be.


Uninformed? The guy should be shot, not treated. If he's a terrorist, he doesn't deserve rights. It's called common sense. I hope he dies on that table.

Yeah, summarily executing him is not going to change anything, except satiate some misplaced thirst for revenge.
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Kramania
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Postby Kramania » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:05 pm

So, an immigrant who came here through chain migration. Well, I guess this is going to be quietly swept under the rug.
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Dominatus (Ancient)
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Postby Dominatus (Ancient) » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:05 pm

Martyr? Please. We'd be sending a message once we purge everyone involved and deport their families as well. We don't just go for the terrorists, because that would make him a martyr like you suggest.

But after we execute them, we detain their immediate family and deport the rest. They'll back down then. Oh, and close down the damned borders.

Once they realize they aren't the only ones being held accountable for their actions, and their family will pay too, they'll back off.
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:06 pm

New Greater Netherlands wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Poland has closed borders? That is news to me. I can literally cross from Germany into Poland without any obstacles to stop me...


Why aren't there any terrorists and terrorist attacks then in Poland?

Probably because terrorists don't give a shit about Poland?
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They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
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Dominatus (Ancient)
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Postby Dominatus (Ancient) » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:07 pm

Kramania wrote:So, an immigrant who came here through chain migration. Well, I guess this is going to be quietly swept under the rug.

Agreed. We'll forget about this come next week. Something has to give. Something will give. Eventually these migrants won't be welcome here for much longer.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:07 pm

Dominatus wrote:Martyr? Please. We'd be sending a message once we purge everyone involved and deport their families as well. We don't just go for the terrorists, because that would make him a martyr like you suggest.

But after we execute them, we detain their immediate family and deport the rest. They'll back down then. Oh, and close down the damned borders.

Once they realize they aren't the only ones being held accountable for their actions, and their family will pay too, they'll back off.


You presume much.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:07 pm

Aaand there we go with the casual xenophobia.
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Postby Kramania » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:08 pm

Vassenor wrote:Aaand there we go with the casual xenophobia.

Aaand here with go with the "if you want to control immigration you're a xenophobe".
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Postby Dominatus (Ancient) » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:10 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Dominatus wrote:Martyr? Please. We'd be sending a message once we purge everyone involved and deport their families as well. We don't just go for the terrorists, because that would make him a martyr like you suggest.

But after we execute them, we detain their immediate family and deport the rest. They'll back down then. Oh, and close down the damned borders.

Once they realize they aren't the only ones being held accountable for their actions, and their family will pay too, they'll back off.


You presume much.


I do? If that doesn't work, I guess mass deportations will have to work. If we deport all of these people and ban any more of them from coming in, it'll stop guaranteed. Would you rather have a real Muslim ban or kill the terrorists and detain their families for long periods of time? Either one will work. That or we suffer more terrorist attacks.
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Postby Rich and Corporations » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:10 pm

Vassenor wrote:Aaand there we go with the casual xenophobia.

He probably was just an electrician and this is just government overreach and overreaction.
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Postby Dominatus (Ancient) » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:11 pm

Vassenor wrote:Aaand there we go with the casual xenophobia.

I don't care if you call me a xenophobe. It's been said so much, I honestly don't care. Call me what you like, but at the end of the day, I'm doing what is possible to save lives. I'd rather hurt some feelings than allow people to be slaughtered. You support the opposite.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:12 pm

Dominatus wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
You presume much.


I do? If that doesn't work, I guess mass deportations will have to work. If we deport all of these people and ban any more of them from coming in, it'll stop guaranteed. Would you rather have a real Muslim ban or kill the terrorists and detain their families for long periods of time? Either one will work. That or we suffer more terrorist attacks.


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Postby Vassenor » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:13 pm

Dominatus wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Aaand there we go with the casual xenophobia.

I don't care if you call me a xenophobe. It's been said so much, I honestly don't care. Call me what you like, but at the end of the day, I'm doing what is possible to save lives. I'd rather hurt some feelings than allow people to be slaughtered. You support the opposite.


Oh really? Show me where I supported people being slaughtered.
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:13 pm

Dominatus wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Aaand there we go with the casual xenophobia.

I don't care if you call me a xenophobe. It's been said so much, I honestly don't care. Call me what you like, but at the end of the day, I'm doing what is possible to save lives.

Which involves...doing what exactly? Posting on a forum?
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
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They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
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Postby New Greater Netherlands » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:13 pm

Vassenor wrote:Aaand there we go with the casual xenophobia.


No it's not xenophobia
Name: Dave Hagen
Born: February 17, 1997
Gender: Male
Political orientation: Conservative
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Religion: Christianity (Protestant)

Current date: 1 augustus 1918
De Telegraaf: In Brussels there were violent protests against the current government and against the Christian Conservative policy between 19:00 and 21:30. Minister of the Belgian States Kees van der Staaij says he wants to have a talk with the rebels, since this has to be arranged through the House of Representatives and / or the King (with other officials: The Ministers have little to say) van der Staaij  is going to have between 23:00 and 4:00 a debate in the Lower House with Minister-President Dave Hagen and the other Political Parties

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Postby Soritarius » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:14 pm

Dominatus wrote:
San Lumen wrote:True but its truly sad how uninformed and mean people can be.


Uninformed? The guy should be shot, not treated. If he's a terrorist, he doesn't deserve rights. It's called common sense. I hope he dies on that table.

It ain't common sense it's called PATRIOT ACT
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Postby Dominatus (Ancient) » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:15 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Dominatus wrote:I don't care if you call me a xenophobe. It's been said so much, I honestly don't care. Call me what you like, but at the end of the day, I'm doing what is possible to save lives. I'd rather hurt some feelings than allow people to be slaughtered. You support the opposite.


Oh really? Show me where I supported people being slaughtered.

What would you do to stop terrorist attacks? I don't see you coming up with any solutions, and you consider the most viable solution to be "Making people martyrs".
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Postby Dominatus (Ancient) » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:16 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Dominatus wrote:I don't care if you call me a xenophobe. It's been said so much, I honestly don't care. Call me what you like, but at the end of the day, I'm doing what is possible to save lives.

Which involves...doing what exactly? Posting on a forum?


I'm coming up with ideas that can be presented to government officials. Cold-hearted, yes, but viable solutions to the terrorism problem.
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:16 pm

Dominatus wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Oh really? Show me where I supported people being slaughtered.

What would you do to stop terrorist attacks? I don't see you coming up with any solutions, and you consider the most viable solution to be "Making people martyrs".

Vassenor never proposed making people martyrs. Straw man. Straw. Man.
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They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:17 pm

Dominatus wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Oh really? Show me where I supported people being slaughtered.

What would you do to stop terrorist attacks? I don't see you coming up with any solutions, and you consider the most viable solution to be "Making people martyrs".


So what makes your idea "the most viable solution"?
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