Bomb explodes in NYC, man wearing wires arrested

[The New California Republic]

It really isn't funny...

It's just a joke, calm down.

Nah, what you have been saying really isn't a joke.

[Dominatus (Ancient)]

It's just a joke, calm down.

Nah, what you have been saying really isn't a joke.

It's just as much as a goof as my motto.

[Kramania]

What is even going on in this thread now?

[Intelligeneria]

What is even going on in this thread now?

Dominatus spent a few pages pretending to be a racist idiot, then reveals he isn't a racist idiot, expecting us to all laugh and pat him on the back for his excellent satire.

Problem is, Dominatus, satire is only funny when it's obvious. There are individuals here who would hold those views, and you were merely mimicking them. It's not funny. If you're going to satire, make it obvious by exaggerating.

Anyway, now that he's done derailing the thread, let's get back on topic. Have there been any recent updates?

[Dominatus (Ancient)]

What is even going on in this thread now?

No clue. I made a scary joke and then these people are mad at me.
Probably shouldn't post on these kind of things anymore lol

[Ifreann]

And this sort things happens when you keep the borders open, it's better to close all the borders to prevent this things and the terrorist to travel wherever they want to attack

American man planted a bomb at an airport.
American man detonated a bomb in his own car while fleeing the FBI.
American man and former GOP political candidate mailed a pipe bomb to his political enemies.
American man detonated an IED in a parking lot.

But the real problem is the immigrants. Gotta close them borders, get all the Muslims out.

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True but its truly sad how uninformed and mean people can be.

Uninformed? The guy should be shot, not treated. If he's a terrorist, he doesn't deserve rights. It's called common sense. I hope he dies on that table.

This may upset you to learn, but no one can be deprived of their rights in America without due process. You can't kill suspects in custody before there's a trial. That would be murder.

[The Archregimancy]

No, not all of them are evil terrorists. The problem is that they don't mix. How many nonwhites do you see conforming to white traditions? Ha, none. Nations weren't made to be melting pots. Humans are tribalistic, which means we're better off with our own subgroups.

It's not racist. It's human nature. That's the way humanity has always been. We can coexist, just in different countries. We can still have people vacation and stuff, but living in and sucking welfare from a country your people didn't build isn't something I'm fond of.

It really isn't funny...

It's just a joke, calm down. Besides, only the thing about killing the terrorists was real.

*** Warned for trolling ***

This may come as news to you, but writing a series of deliberately provocative posts - of which the above is only a sample - and then trying to handwave them away on the basis of 'it's just a joke', and then telling people to 'calm down' is neither clever nor funny; nor does it excuse you from trolling.

[Kubumba Tribe]

Calling someone a disbeliever is not insulting. It's calling them what they are. A kafir is a disbeliever is a kafir. Same thing, same meaning, different language. The mods might as well ban the word 'disbeliever' in every language since they find it so 'offensive'.

You have complained about this, appealed it, and Final Appealed it. Wikipedia and other online sources disagree with your interpretation. Our ruling isn't going to change. You need to stop using the word in this context, and you definitely need to stop bringing it up like there's some sort of vendetta against you. You lost the ruling. The End.

Wikipedia does not disagree with me

kafir is used especially among political Islam movements to denote someone who does not believe in Islam and therefore also used as a derogatory term.

It says that 'kafir' is used in a pejorative way by those who politicize Al-Islam, and even then, that's not a majority nor is it all.

'Kafir' is not a slur in and of itself. If someone says "You are a kafir because you don't believe in Allah (SWT) and the Last Day" or something similar, that is not actionable. Yet if someone says "You dirty, stupid kafir" or something similar, that is actionable. 'Kafir' being offensive depends on how it's used, not the very fact that it is used.

And also - and this goes mainly to Thermodolia, but it can also be directed at the mods because they ruled in his favor - 'kufr' is not a slur, nor is it a noun. 'Kufr' means 'disbelief', which is referring to a state of mind or a system, it is not and cannot be directed at someone ex: "Atheists and mushrikeen (polytheists [you gonna ban that Arabic word too? Y'all know how scary Arabic can be]) are kufr" is not grammatically correct, but "Atheists and mushrikeen are upon kufr" is grammatically correct. So I was banned for describing a state of mind, not 'insulting' somebody. How does that work?

Also, this makes me think of something, which is hypocritical on the mods' part: Y'all will ban a Arabic word (kufr/kafir), but you won't ban it's English/translated equivalent? Well, actually, y'all technically did, because 'kafir/kufr' and 'disbeliever/disbelief' are the same words, so the mods just banned 'kufr/kafir' and all their equivalents when translated.

I repeat: A kafir is a disbeliever is a kafir, both are the same word, same meaning, different langauge. Kufr is disbelief is kufr, and 'kufr' is a noun, not an adjective.

[Kubumba Tribe]

detain their immediate family and deport the rest.

Group punishment much? What crime did the families do?

Aaand there we go with the casual xenophobia.

Aaand here with go with the "if you want to control immigration you're a xenophobe".

Detaining a criminal's family for a crime they didn't commit is wrong.

You presume much.

I do? If that doesn't work, I guess mass deportations will have to work. If we deport all of these people and ban any more of them from coming in, it'll stop guaranteed. Would you rather have a real Muslim ban or kill the terrorists and detain their families for long periods of time? Either one will work. That or we suffer more terrorist attacks.

Or - and this might be a shock - we deal with the criminal and not harm anyone else?
Seriously, would you arrest and jail a theif's family?

Right. A Muslim ban. Because that makes total sense. Around 3 million people are Muslims. They all pray to roughly the same God, and follow the same book. They often use the same terms. That's about all they all have in common. Out of all the 3 million, there are massive view differences. Do you really believe all 3 million of those human beings are evil terrorists? If so, you're wrong. Muslims are mostly just ordinary Americans, going about their lives.

No, not all of them are evil terrorists. The problem is that they don't mix. How many nonwhites do you see conforming to white traditions? Ha, none.

That's not true.

Of course he's being sarcastic. He means that just because a few people do something bad and are part of a certain group doesn't mean the group is bad. The problem is, that's a really broad brush he's painting with.

Hypocrisy! Sheer hypocrisy!

Agreed.

It really isn't funny...

It's just a joke, calm down. Besides, only the thing about killing the terrorists was real.

Wait what? All this is a joke??? Jokes like that aren't supposed to last 2-3 pages.

[Trumptonium]

Poland?

Poland has closed borders? That is news to me. I can literally cross from Germany into Poland without any obstacles to stop me...

you're going to get ethnically profiled though, and trying to rent out a truck while being a muslim is near enough impossible and nobody will care if you whinge about discrimination

and yes the border is an obstacle since the polish border guard periodically stops vehicles to do a minor or a full check up

[Petrasylvania]

I wonder how many people who say mass shootings can't be stopped by firearms regulation and enforcement also say terrorism can be stopped by telling brown people "Get off my lawn"?

[Katganistan]

You have complained about this, appealed it, and Final Appealed it. Wikipedia and other online sources disagree with your interpretation. Our ruling isn't going to change. You need to stop using the word in this context, and you definitely need to stop bringing it up like there's some sort of vendetta against you. You lost the ruling. The End.

Wikipedia does not disagree with me

kafir is used especially among political Islam movements to denote someone who does not believe in Islam and therefore also used as a derogatory term.

It says that 'kafir' is used in a pejorative way by those who politicize Al-Islam, and even then, that's not a majority nor is it all.

'Kafir' is not a slur in and of itself. If someone says "You are a kafir because you don't believe in Allah (SWT) and the Last Day" or something similar, that is not actionable. Yet if someone says "You dirty, stupid kafir" or something similar, that is actionable. 'Kafir' being offensive depends on how it's used, not the very fact that it is used.

And also - and this goes mainly to Thermodolia, but it can also be directed at the mods because they ruled in his favor - 'kufr' is not a slur, nor is it a noun. 'Kufr' means 'disbelief', which is referring to a state of mind or a system, it is not and cannot be directed at someone ex: "Atheists and mushrikeen (polytheists [you gonna ban that Arabic word too? Y'all know how scary Arabic can be]) are kufr" is not grammatically correct, but "Atheists and mushrikeen are upon kufr" is grammatically correct. So I was banned for describing a state of mind, not 'insulting' somebody. How does that work?

Also, this makes me think of something, which is hypocritical on the mods' part: Y'all will ban a Arabic word (kufr/kafir), but you won't ban it's English/translated equivalent? Well, actually, y'all technically did, because 'kafir/kufr' and 'disbeliever/disbelief' are the same words, so the mods just banned 'kufr/kafir' and all their equivalents when translated.

I repeat: A kafir is a disbeliever is a kafir, both are the same word, same meaning, different langauge. Kufr is disbelief is kufr, and 'kufr' is a noun, not an adjective.

We're done here. Since we've repeatedly made it clear to multiple people multiple times that it is not acceptable, and since people ARE offended, stop using it. Use disbeliever.

Since we've had this discussion multiple times, understand that the next step for continuing to use this contentious term will be a ban.

[Kubumba Tribe]

Wikipedia does not disagree with me

kafir is used especially among political Islam movements to denote someone who does not believe in Islam and therefore also used as a derogatory term.

It says that 'kafir' is used in a pejorative way by those who politicize Al-Islam, and even then, that's not a majority nor is it all.

'Kafir' is not a slur in and of itself. If someone says "You are a kafir because you don't believe in Allah (SWT) and the Last Day" or something similar, that is not actionable. Yet if someone says "You dirty, stupid kafir" or something similar, that is actionable. 'Kafir' being offensive depends on how it's used, not the very fact that it is used.

And also - and this goes mainly to Thermodolia, but it can also be directed at the mods because they ruled in his favor - 'kufr' is not a slur, nor is it a noun. 'Kufr' means 'disbelief', which is referring to a state of mind or a system, it is not and cannot be directed at someone ex: "Atheists and mushrikeen (polytheists [you gonna ban that Arabic word too? Y'all know how scary Arabic can be]) are kufr" is not grammatically correct, but "Atheists and mushrikeen are upon kufr" is grammatically correct. So I was banned for describing a state of mind, not 'insulting' somebody. How does that work?

Also, this makes me think of something, which is hypocritical on the mods' part: Y'all will ban a Arabic word (kufr/kafir), but you won't ban it's English/translated equivalent? Well, actually, y'all technically did, because 'kafir/kufr' and 'disbeliever/disbelief' are the same words, so the mods just banned 'kufr/kafir' and all their equivalents when translated.

I repeat: A kafir is a disbeliever is a kafir, both are the same word, same meaning, different langauge. Kufr is disbelief is kufr, and 'kufr' is a noun, not an adjective.

We're done here. Since we've repeatedly made it clear to multiple people multiple times that it is not acceptable, and since people ARE offended, stop using it. Use disbeliever.

I can't, y'all banned it.

Since we've had this discussion multiple times, understand that the next step for continuing to use this contentious term will be a ban.

ok

[Kramania]

You have complained about this, appealed it, and Final Appealed it. Wikipedia and other online sources disagree with your interpretation. Our ruling isn't going to change. You need to stop using the word in this context, and you definitely need to stop bringing it up like there's some sort of vendetta against you. You lost the ruling. The End.

Wikipedia does not disagree with me

kafir is used especially among political Islam movements to denote someone who does not believe in Islam and therefore also used as a derogatory term.

It says that 'kafir' is used in a pejorative way by those who politicize Al-Islam, and even then, that's not a majority nor is it all.

'Kafir' is not a slur in and of itself. If someone says "You are a kafir because you don't believe in Allah (SWT) and the Last Day" or something similar, that is not actionable. Yet if someone says "You dirty, stupid kafir" or something similar, that is actionable. 'Kafir' being offensive depends on how it's used, not the very fact that it is used.

And also - and this goes mainly to Thermodolia, but it can also be directed at the mods because they ruled in his favor - 'kufr' is not a slur, nor is it a noun. 'Kufr' means 'disbelief', which is referring to a state of mind or a system, it is not and cannot be directed at someone ex: "Atheists and mushrikeen (polytheists [you gonna ban that Arabic word too? Y'all know how scary Arabic can be]) are kufr" is not grammatically correct, but "Atheists and mushrikeen are upon kufr" is grammatically correct. So I was banned for describing a state of mind, not 'insulting' somebody. How does that work?

Also, this makes me think of something, which is hypocritical on the mods' part: Y'all will ban a Arabic word (kufr/kafir), but you won't ban it's English/translated equivalent? Well, actually, y'all technically did, because 'kafir/kufr' and 'disbeliever/disbelief' are the same words, so the mods just banned 'kufr/kafir' and all their equivalents when translated.

I repeat: A kafir is a disbeliever is a kafir, both are the same word, same meaning, different langauge. Kufr is disbelief is kufr, and 'kufr' is a noun, not an adjective.

Are you going to whine and complain every time the mods smack you for using a word that you know isn't allowed on this site? Why don't you just fucking say 'unbeliever'?

[Kramania]

And this sort things happens when you keep the borders open, it's better to close all the borders to prevent this things and the terrorist to travel wherever they want to attack

American man planted a bomb at an airport.
American man detonated a bomb in his own car while fleeing the FBI.
American man and former GOP political candidate mailed a pipe bomb to his political enemies.
American man detonated an IED in a parking lot.

But the real problem is the immigrants. Gotta close them borders, get all the Muslims out.

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Uninformed? The guy should be shot, not treated. If he's a terrorist, he doesn't deserve rights. It's called common sense. I hope he dies on that table.

This may upset you to learn, but no one can be deprived of their rights in America without due process. You can't kill suspects in custody before there's a trial. That would be murder.

"Well I know you lot want to secure you border and stuff but you can't because some Americans will still do stupid shit lol checkmate"

10/10 argument would use again

[Kubumba Tribe]

Wikipedia does not disagree with me

kafir is used especially among political Islam movements to denote someone who does not believe in Islam and therefore also used as a derogatory term.

It says that 'kafir' is used in a pejorative way by those who politicize Al-Islam, and even then, that's not a majority nor is it all.

'Kafir' is not a slur in and of itself. If someone says "You are a kafir because you don't believe in Allah (SWT) and the Last Day" or something similar, that is not actionable. Yet if someone says "You dirty, stupid kafir" or something similar, that is actionable. 'Kafir' being offensive depends on how it's used, not the very fact that it is used.

And also - and this goes mainly to Thermodolia, but it can also be directed at the mods because they ruled in his favor - 'kufr' is not a slur, nor is it a noun. 'Kufr' means 'disbelief', which is referring to a state of mind or a system, it is not and cannot be directed at someone ex: "Atheists and mushrikeen (polytheists [you gonna ban that Arabic word too? Y'all know how scary Arabic can be]) are kufr" is not grammatically correct, but "Atheists and mushrikeen are upon kufr" is grammatically correct. So I was banned for describing a state of mind, not 'insulting' somebody. How does that work?

Also, this makes me think of something, which is hypocritical on the mods' part: Y'all will ban a Arabic word (kufr/kafir), but you won't ban it's English/translated equivalent? Well, actually, y'all technically did, because 'kafir/kufr' and 'disbeliever/disbelief' are the same words, so the mods just banned 'kufr/kafir' and all their equivalents when translated.

I repeat: A kafir is a disbeliever is a kafir, both are the same word, same meaning, different langauge. Kufr is disbelief is kufr, and 'kufr' is a noun, not an adjective.

Are you going to whine and complain every time the mods smack you for using a word that you know isn't allowed on this site? Why don't you just fucking say 'unbeliever'?

No, I'm not, nor have I, 'whined', but I have complained - multiple times - however. Also, why don't I just 'effing' say 'kafir'? They mean the same thing. If the mods ban 'kafir', they automatically ban 'unbeliever' and any other word in another language that means 'kafir'.

[Kramania]

Are you going to whine and complain every time the mods smack you for using a word that you know isn't allowed on this site? Why don't you just fucking say 'unbeliever'?

No, I'm not, nor have I, 'whined', but I have complained - multiple times - however. Also, why don't I just 'effing' say 'kafir'? They mean the same thing. If the mods ban 'kafir', they automatically ban 'unbeliever' and any other word in another language that means 'kafir'.

You are whining.

And they didn't ban the entire word. They banned the Arabic translation of that word. You can still say it in English or French or German or Chinese or whateverthefuck. You just can't say it in Arabic because, as I understand it, a mod from Dubai confirmed that the word is used extensively as a slur in the Arabic-speaking world. And I find it hard to believe that you don't know that. So, please stop fucking complaining and trying to make yourself out to be some sort of victim. It really has grown old quite fast. I've had contentious problems with the mods before, but even I don't whine about this long after the fact. I just move on.

[Kubumba Tribe]

I apologize for any behavior that might be taken as trolling, as in "lol Imma get banned for speaking Arabic", etc. I still disagree with the ruling (maye still might try to fight it), but I apologize for any wrongs against the game. If I have stained the honor and reputation of other Muslims of NSG, I deeply regret this and it was never my intention to do so.