Bomb explodes in NYC, man wearing wires arrested

[The New California Republic]

Which involves...doing what exactly? Posting on a forum?

I'm coming up with ideas that can be presented to government officials. Cold-hearted, yes, but viable solutions to the terrorism problem.

Yup, that will do precisely nothing, you might as well write the ideas on a toilet stall wall.

[Intelligeneria]

You presume much.

I do? If that doesn't work, I guess mass deportations will have to work. If we deport all of these people and ban any more of them from coming in, it'll stop guaranteed. Would you rather have a real Muslim ban or kill the terrorists and detain their families for long periods of time? Either one will work. That or we suffer more terrorist attacks.

Right. A Muslim ban. Because that makes total sense. Around 3 million people are Muslims. They all pray to roughly the same God, and follow the same book. They often use the same terms. That's about all they all have in common. Out of all the 3 million, there are massive view differences. Do you really believe all 3 million of those human beings are evil terrorists? If so, you're wrong. Muslims are mostly just ordinary Americans, going about their lives.

[Dominatus (Ancient)]

What would you do to stop terrorist attacks? I don't see you coming up with any solutions, and you consider the most viable solution to be "Making people martyrs".

Vassenor never proposed making people martyrs. Straw man. Straw. Man.

You read that wrong.
"Dominatus wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
True but its truly sad how uninformed and mean people can be.


Uninformed? The guy should be shot, not treated. If he's a terrorist, he doesn't deserve rights. It's called common sense. I hope he dies on that table.


So you want to make a martyr of him to inspire others?"

[Soritarius]

What would you do to stop terrorist attacks? I don't see you coming up with any solutions, and you consider the most viable solution to be "Making people martyrs".

So what makes your idea "the most viable solution"?

It makes him feel good cause he finally gets back at those darn brown people

[Vassenor]

Or here's a better question: How will the threat of death deter people from committing acts that they expect to die in the commission of?

[Soritarius]

Or here's a better question: How will the threat of death deter people from committing acts that they expect to die in the commission of?

WE'RE GUNNA TAKE THE TERRERRIST JERBS

[The New California Republic]

Vassenor never proposed making people martyrs. Straw man. Straw. Man.

You read that wrong.

Not really, you made it out as if Vassenor thinks that making people martyrs is a viable solution, but she clearly doesn't.

[Des-Bal]

I'm coming up with ideas that can be presented to government officials. Cold-hearted, yes, but viable solutions to the terrorism problem.

It would solve the problem, I personally think we should use deportation and travel bans as a standard approach. Deport all drug addicts, gun owners, fat people etc. Ideally we can get it down to where it's just me and maybe two or three other people who can act out the apocalypse until it gets boring and we go to mexico.

[Intelligeneria]

Vassenor never proposed making people martyrs. Straw man. Straw. Man.

You read that wrong.

No, you wrote that wrong.

[Dominatus (Ancient)]

I do? If that doesn't work, I guess mass deportations will have to work. If we deport all of these people and ban any more of them from coming in, it'll stop guaranteed. Would you rather have a real Muslim ban or kill the terrorists and detain their families for long periods of time? Either one will work. That or we suffer more terrorist attacks.

Right. A Muslim ban. Because that makes total sense. Around 3 million people are Muslims. They all pray to roughly the same God, and follow the same book. They often use the same terms. That's about all they all have in common. Out of all the 3 million, there are massive view differences. Do you really believe all 3 million of those human beings are evil terrorists? If so, you're wrong. Muslims are mostly just ordinary Americans, going about their lives.

No, not all of them are evil terrorists. The problem is that they don't mix. How many nonwhites do you see conforming to white traditions? Ha, none. Nations weren't made to be melting pots. Humans are tribalistic, which means we're better off with our own subgroups.

[The New California Republic]

No, not all of them are evil terrorists. The problem is that they don't mix. How many nonwhites do you see conforming to white traditions? Ha, none. Nations weren't made to be melting pots. Humans are tribalistic, which means we're better off with our own subgroups.

You are getting dangerously close to sliding into general racism.

[Dominatus (Ancient)]

I'm coming up with ideas that can be presented to government officials. Cold-hearted, yes, but viable solutions to the terrorism problem.

It would solve the problem, I personally think we should use deportation and travel bans as a standard approach. Deport all drug addicts, gun owners, fat people etc. Ideally we can get it down to where it's just me and maybe two or three other people who can act out the apocalypse until it gets boring and we go to mexico.

Drug users should be imprisoned for no less than fifty years.
Gun ownership isn't a problem, it's the people behind it.
Social programs can be enacted to help fat people lose pounds and go to a healthy weight.

I know your point, but it doesn't work in this case.

[Intelligeneria]

Right. A Muslim ban. Because that makes total sense. Around 3 million people are Muslims. They all pray to roughly the same God, and follow the same book. They often use the same terms. That's about all they all have in common. Out of all the 3 million, there are massive view differences. Do you really believe all 3 million of those human beings are evil terrorists? If so, you're wrong. Muslims are mostly just ordinary Americans, going about their lives.

No, not all of them are evil terrorists. The problem is that they don't mix. How many nonwhites do you see conforming to white traditions? Ha, none. Nations weren't made to be melting pots. Humans are tribalistic, which means we're better off with our own subgroups.

Erm...what? I'm not white. I go to a school with mostly white people. I take part in Christmas traditions, I read books written by white people, a lot of my friends are white, etc. That point makes no sense whatsoever. Like, 50% of the people I know are non-whites taking part in so-called, "white traditions". Do you use the numbers 1,2,3,4, etc.? That's a non-white tradition, you'd better stop, otherwise people will think you're leaving your subgroup.

[The New California Republic]

It would solve the problem, I personally think we should use deportation and travel bans as a standard approach. Deport all drug addicts, gun owners, fat people etc. Ideally we can get it down to where it's just me and maybe two or three other people who can act out the apocalypse until it gets boring and we go to mexico.

Drug users should be imprisoned for no less than fifty years.
Gun ownership isn't a problem, it's the people behind it.
Social programs can be enacted to help fat people lose pounds and go to a healthy weight.

I know your point, but it doesn't work in this case.

Um, I hate to break it to you, but I think Des-Bal was being sarcastic...

[Dominatus (Ancient)]

No, not all of them are evil terrorists. The problem is that they don't mix. How many nonwhites do you see conforming to white traditions? Ha, none. Nations weren't made to be melting pots. Humans are tribalistic, which means we're better off with our own subgroups.

You are getting dangerously close to sliding into general racism.

It's not racist. It's human nature. That's the way humanity has always been. We can coexist, just in different countries. We can still have people vacation and stuff, but living in and sucking welfare from a country your people didn't build isn't something I'm fond of.

[Des-Bal]

No, not all of them are evil terrorists. The problem is that they don't mix. How many nonwhites do you see conforming to white traditions? Ha, none. Nations weren't made to be melting pots. Humans are tribalistic, which means we're better off with our own subgroups.

If you just said "pants weren't made for wearing" you couldn't possibly be more wrong. The entire idea of a nation is that you have a culture that supercedes all other cultures, the purpose of a nation is to be a cultural group that respects the boundaries of a territorial state. The reason that the territorial nation-state has survived as the sole relevant system of governance is because tribalism is stupid and the cultures who practice it die in ignominity.

[Vassenor]

You are getting dangerously close to sliding into general racism.

It's not racist. It's human nature. That's the way humanity has always been. We can coexist, just in different countries. We can still have people vacation and stuff, but living in and sucking welfare from a country your people didn't build isn't something I'm fond of.

Everybody take a shot.

[The New California Republic]

You are getting dangerously close to sliding into general racism.

It's not racist. It's human nature. That's the way humanity has always been. We can coexist, just in different countries. We can still have people vacation and stuff, but living in and sucking welfare from a country your people didn't build isn't something I'm fond of.

And the slide continues downward...

[Des-Bal]

Drug users should be imprisoned for no less than fifty years.
Gun ownership isn't a problem, it's the people behind it.
Social programs can be enacted to help fat people lose pounds and go to a healthy weight.

I know your point, but it doesn't work in this case.

My point was that all of you should leave the country so I can touch your things until the infrastructure gives out.

[Dominatus (Ancient)]

Drug users should be imprisoned for no less than fifty years.
Gun ownership isn't a problem, it's the people behind it.
Social programs can be enacted to help fat people lose pounds and go to a healthy weight.

I know your point, but it doesn't work in this case.

Um, I hate to break it to you, but I think Des-Bal was being sarcastic...

Of course he's being sarcastic. He means that just because a few people do something bad and are part of a certain group doesn't mean the group is bad. The problem is, that's a really broad brush he's painting with.

[The New California Republic]

Um, I hate to break it to you, but I think Des-Bal was being sarcastic...

Of course he's being sarcastic. He means that just because a few people do something bad and are part of a certain group doesn't mean the group is bad. The problem is, that's a really broad brush he's painting with.

Hypocrisy! Sheer hypocrisy!

[Des-Bal]

Of course he's being sarcastic. He means that just because a few people do something bad and are part of a certain group doesn't mean the group is bad. The problem is, that's a really broad brush he's painting with.

A more accurate summation would have been "putting aside all arguments against it's efficacy, your solution is worse than the problem." Are we hampered by gun owners, fat people, and drug addicts? Sure. Is mass deportation a worthwhile solution? No. There is nothing to elevate your proposition into actual consideration. It is absurd.

[Dominatus (Ancient)]

Of course he's being sarcastic. He means that just because a few people do something bad and are part of a certain group doesn't mean the group is bad. The problem is, that's a really broad brush he's painting with.

Hypocrisy! Sheer hypocrisy!

Dammit. You got me. XD Almost thought you guys weren't going to figure it out.

[The New California Republic]

Hypocrisy! Sheer hypocrisy!

Dammit. You got me. XD

It really isn't funny...

[Dominatus (Ancient)]

Dammit. You got me. XD

It really isn't funny...

It's just a joke, calm down. Besides, only the thing about killing the terrorists was real.