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by The Batavia » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:43 pm
by Neutraligon » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:44 pm
The Parkus Empire wrote:Neutraligon wrote:Depends, please define morality. So far even if the Christian god or the bible existed my own morals would be in opposition to that god. Depending on how morality is defined, I think objective morality is a contradiction in terms.
Morality is a system and practice of belief in moral truth.
by The Batavia » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:45 pm
by Genivaria » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:46 pm
The Parkus Empire wrote:Genivaria wrote:You know that supernatural 'objective morality' and cultural relativism aren't the only two options right?
I've repeatedly condemned cultural relativism as both asinine and cowardly.
In fact I used to have a sig to that effect...let me see if I can find the quote.
Ah here it is.
---Charles James Napier
You are saying this practice is bad based on your personal sensibilities, or something else?
by Jormengand » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:46 pm
Jormengand wrote:It would be really meta if I sigged this.
by Neutraligon » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:47 pm
by The Parkus Empire » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:48 pm
by Jormengand » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:48 pm
Jormengand wrote:It would be really meta if I sigged this.
by The Parkus Empire » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:49 pm
by Neutraligon » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:50 pm
by The Batavia » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:50 pm
by Neutraligon » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:51 pm
by The Parkus Empire » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:53 pm
Neutraligon wrote:The Parkus Empire wrote:
The principle(s) determing the virtue of an act.
Morality is the system and practice of the principle(s) determining the virtue of an act. I will keep going, what do you mean by the principles determining the virtue of an act. How do you determine said principles.
by Jormengand » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:53 pm
Neutraligon wrote:The Parkus Empire wrote:
The principle(s) determing the virtue of an act.
Morality is the system and practice of the principle(s) determining the virtue of an act. I will keep going, what do you mean by the principles determining the virtue of an act. How do you determine said principles.
Jormengand wrote:It would be really meta if I sigged this.
by The Parkus Empire » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:54 pm
by The Batavia » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:55 pm
by Genivaria » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:56 pm
The Batavia wrote:So, I just got an ad that said "Meet other Atheists/Agonists", I barely even look up things related to atheism...
This is fuckin' creepy.
by Neutraligon » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:56 pm
by Valrifell » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:56 pm
Jormengand wrote:Valrifell wrote:
I'm not quite sure what a Westerner's idea of objective Truth has to do with two American bike makers going "oh shit dude you what'd be cool?"
The only reason that two American bike makers could, well, for a start make bikes and in the second instance make planes is because a bunch of scientists got their calculations and understanding of physics and engineering right - the aeroplane relies on quite a lot of objective truths such as "Newtonian mechanics is mostly accurate at the kinds of speeds at which an aeroplane travels" in order to function. If you go "Well sure, but the Wordijustmadeuppian Sect believes that actually, the forwards velocity of an object is based on the magnetic attraction provided by crystals (and they also believe that crystals do that)", and then insist that because there's no Objective Truth, neither of these beliefs is intrinsically better than the other, the only useful thing I'll have learned from you is not to get in any aeroplane made by the Wordijustmadeuppian Sect. That, and that you don't really understand the difference between objectivity and subjectivity.
by The Batavia » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:58 pm
Genivaria wrote:The Batavia wrote:So, I just got an ad that said "Meet other Atheists/Agonists", I barely even look up things related to atheism...
This is fuckin' creepy.
Yes the ads read your browser history.
I once spent alot of time on the Christian thread and I started getting Christian Mingle ads.
by Neutraligon » Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:00 pm
Jormengand wrote:Neutraligon wrote:Morality is the system and practice of the principle(s) determining the virtue of an act. I will keep going, what do you mean by the principles determining the virtue of an act. How do you determine said principles.
10 more posts until the singularity, until we're trying to explain what "Good" and "Bad" mean monosyllabically.
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