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Irreligious Discussion Thread: Welcome to the Nonery!

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)

What label do you prefer?

Atheist
54
51%
Agnostic
18
17%
Deist
5
5%
Humanist
10
10%
Spiritual but not religious
3
3%
Other
8
8%
Prefer not to label self
7
7%
 
Total votes : 105

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Ashlak
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Irreligious Discussion Thread: Welcome to the Nonery!

Postby Ashlak » Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:22 pm

I made this thread to talk about things like atheism/agnosticism, criticism of religion, skepticism, separation of church and state issues, living as a non religious person in a religious culture or family, and things of that nature.
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Collatis
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Postby Collatis » Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:49 pm

Kurt Vonnegut wrote:I am a humanist, which means, in part, that I have tried to behave decently without expectations of rewards or punishments after I am dead.

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Postby VoVoDoCo » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:00 pm

I had been a passive atheist for a long time. I didn't believe in god, but I couldn't make myself say it for a long time. I finally worked up the nerve to say it right before the worship session. Almost passed out, but glad I did it. :)
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USS Monitor
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Postby USS Monitor » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:01 pm

Why do we need a thread for this? I'm mostly asking as a personal question rather than as a mod because I am atheist and I don't see the point of it.
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Postby VoVoDoCo » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:03 pm

USS Monitor wrote:Why do we need a thread for this? I'm mostly asking as a personal question rather than as a mod because I am atheist and I don't see the point of it.

There's a certain pride that follows being the OP of a continuously growing thread. I assume that's why anyone starts any thread here.
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Postby Collatis » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:03 pm

USS Monitor wrote:Why do we need a thread for this? I'm mostly asking as a personal question rather than as a mod because I am atheist and I don't see the point of it.

Many irreligious have vastly different views on a variety of issues. I don't see the harm in having a thread to discuss them.

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Postby Bombadil » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:08 pm

USS Monitor wrote:Why do we need a thread for this? I'm mostly asking as a personal question rather than as a mod because I am atheist and I don't see the point of it.


Sort of agree, sort of like ‘discuss not being a hamster, how has not being a hamster affected your life and views’.. and then it just devolves into a hamster bashing thread.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:10 pm

I feel like it's getting together a group of people who don't like golf.
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Postby Sovaal » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:18 pm

Bombadil wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:Why do we need a thread for this? I'm mostly asking as a personal question rather than as a mod because I am atheist and I don't see the point of it.


Sort of agree, sort of like ‘discuss not being a hamster, how has not being a hamster affected your life and views’.. and then it just devolves into a hamster bashing thread.

Damn hamsters, always pushing their hamsterness on others.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

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Winston Churchill, 1947.

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Postby Cetacea » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:29 pm

Bombadil wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:Why do we need a thread for this? I'm mostly asking as a personal question rather than as a mod because I am atheist and I don't see the point of it.


Sort of agree, sort of like ‘discuss not being a hamster, how has not being a hamster affected your life and views’.. and then it just devolves into a hamster bashing thread.


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Postby Bombadil » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:32 pm

Cetacea wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
Sort of agree, sort of like ‘discuss not being a hamster, how has not being a hamster affected your life and views’.. and then it just devolves into a hamster bashing thread.


Whack-a-Hamster!
with bonus rounds vs Mutant Giant Space Hamster

It's Hamster Time!!!!!


Cue MC Hamster in his enormous pants.
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Postby Katzenstaat » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:37 pm

Why can't the irreligious have an irreligious thread?
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Postby Aillyria » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:40 pm

Katzenstaat wrote:Why can't the irreligious have an irreligious thread?

You guys are completely justified in having your own thread. I just wonder what you guys would even discuss, tbh.....
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:42 pm

Katzenstaat wrote:Why can't the irreligious have an irreligious thread?


I don't think anyone's said that you can't.

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Postby Bombadil » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:42 pm

Katzenstaat wrote:Why can't the irreligious have an irreligious thread?


They can, there’s plenty of threads that have nothing to do with religion, just ‘discuss the absence of something’ is a bit odd.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:42 pm

USS Monitor wrote:Why do we need a thread for this? I'm mostly asking as a personal question rather than as a mod because I am atheist and I don't see the point of it.

I'm going to have to agree with monitor. This really seems unnecessary
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:43 pm

I like your punny title.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:43 pm

Aillyria wrote:
Katzenstaat wrote:Why can't the irreligious have an irreligious thread?

You guys are completely justified in having your own thread. I just wonder what you guys would even discuss, tbh.....

How much they aren't religious? Idk
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Postby Sulania » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:49 pm

USS Monitor wrote:Why do we need a thread for this? I'm mostly asking as a personal question rather than as a mod because I am atheist and I don't see the point of it.

I'm inclined to agree here.

While there's nothing wrong with having an irreligious thread, there's very little discuss concerning a lack of belief in something, unless the thread serves as a possible umbrella thread for overall irreligious issues and curiosities, such as:

The Irreligious and Religion itself: There are some who are irreligious who greatly dislike religion, whilst there are those who actively attend churches or religious services as a community or cultural activity, or actively identify with a spiritual side that's not religious.
Religiousness and the law: Take the seven states in the US that have laws that prohibit atheists to run for elected office, or the heavily prevalent religious overtones in greater politics around the world.

Ummm... That's all I got really atm?
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Postby Methodological Individualism » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:50 pm

Aillyria wrote:You guys are completely justified in having your own thread. I just wonder what you guys would even discuss, tbh.....


I used to go to a skeptics group at my university pub. It was mostly discussing the latest Scientific American with a pint.

We could discuss the latest Scientific American without a pint, I suppose.

...

:unsure:

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Postby Methodological Individualism » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:52 pm

Sulania wrote:Religiousness and the law: Take the seven states in the US that have laws that prohibit atheists to run for elected office ...


Presumably these aren't actually enforced, since it should take a court about 2 nanoseconds to straighten this out.

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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:52 pm

Methodological Individualism wrote:
Aillyria wrote:You guys are completely justified in having your own thread. I just wonder what you guys would even discuss, tbh.....


I used to go to a skeptics group at my university pub. It was mostly discussing the latest Scientific American with a pint.

We could discuss the latest Scientific American without a pint, I suppose.

...

:unsure:

But we could create a scientific American thread. We don't need an irreligious thread to discuss that
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Postby Methodological Individualism » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:53 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Methodological Individualism wrote:
I used to go to a skeptics group at my university pub. It was mostly discussing the latest Scientific American with a pint.

We could discuss the latest Scientific American without a pint, I suppose.

...

:unsure:

But we could create a scientific American thread. We don't need an irreligious thread to discuss that


I just want a pint, tbh.

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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:55 pm

Methodological Individualism wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:But we could create a scientific American thread. We don't need an irreligious thread to discuss that


I just want a pint, tbh.

Don't we all?
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:59 pm

Methodological Individualism wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:But we could create a scientific American thread. We don't need an irreligious thread to discuss that


I just want a pint, tbh.

You have your priorities straight, I'll take a Rum and Coke.
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