Irreligious Discussion Thread: Welcome to the Nonery!

[The Batavia]

I'm an atheist but I don't have a fedora.

Am I doing something wrong?

[Major-Tom]

I'm not particularly religious at all, most likely an agnostic, but having been involved with the Catholic Church so much, most people just assume I'm a Catholic.

[Major-Tom]

I'm an atheist but I don't have a fedora.

Am I doing something wrong?

Get a fedora and grow a fashionable neckbeard, m'gentleman.

[Neutraligon]

Depends, please define morality. So far even if the Christian god or the bible existed my own morals would be in opposition to that god. Depending on how morality is defined, I think objective morality is a contradiction in terms.

Morality is a system and practice of belief in moral truth.

What is moral truth?

[The Batavia]

I'm an atheist but I don't have a fedora.

Am I doing something wrong?

Get a fedora and grow a fashionable neckbeard, m'gentleman.

I wish I could tip back right now.

[Genivaria]

You know that supernatural 'objective morality' and cultural relativism aren't the only two options right?
I've repeatedly condemned cultural relativism as both asinine and cowardly.

In fact I used to have a sig to that effect...let me see if I can find the quote.
Ah here it is.


---Charles James Napier

You are saying this practice is bad based on your personal sensibilities, or something else?

You apparently think that that is the only parameter possible.
In reality that's exactly what you use.

[Jormengand]

I'm an atheist but I don't have a fedora.

Am I doing something wrong?

If you intended to have a fedora, yes. Else, no.

[Neutraligon]

I'm an atheist but I don't have a fedora.

Am I doing something wrong?

So long as you have a baby cookbook you are fine.

[Genivaria]

I'm an atheist but I don't have a fedora.

Am I doing something wrong?

Get a fedora and grow a fashionable neckbeard, m'gentleman.

I'm more of a denim jacket and clean-shaven person.

[The Parkus Empire]

Morality is a system and practice of belief in moral truth.

What is moral truth?

The principle(s) determing the virtue of an act.

[Jormengand]

I'm an atheist but I don't have a fedora.

Am I doing something wrong?

So long as you have a baby cookbook you are fine.

To clarify, is this a book about cooking, designed for babies to read, or a book to aid in the cooking of babies?

Asking for a friend.

[The Parkus Empire]

You are saying this practice is bad based on your personal sensibilities, or something else?

You apparently think that that is the only parameter possible.
In reality that's exactly what you use.

You are avoiding the question.

[Neutraligon]

What is moral truth?

The principle(s) determing the virtue of an act.

Morality is the system and practice of the principle(s) determining the virtue of an act. I will keep going, what do you mean by the principles determining the virtue of an act. How do you determine said principles.

[The Batavia]

I'm an atheist but I don't have a fedora.

Am I doing something wrong?

So long as you have a baby cookbook you are fine.

... Fuck.

[Neutraligon]

So long as you have a baby cookbook you are fine.

To clarify, is this a book about cooking, designed for babies to read, or a book to aid in the cooking of babies?

Asking for a friend.

both, you need to fatten up that baby first.

[Genivaria]

You apparently think that that is the only parameter possible.
In reality that's exactly what you use.

You are avoiding the question.

You are putting a presumption in your 'question'.

[The Parkus Empire]

The principle(s) determing the virtue of an act.

Morality is the system and practice of the principle(s) determining the virtue of an act. I will keep going, what do you mean by the principles determining the virtue of an act. How do you determine said principles.

The Tao

[Jormengand]

The principle(s) determing the virtue of an act.

Morality is the system and practice of the principle(s) determining the virtue of an act. I will keep going, what do you mean by the principles determining the virtue of an act. How do you determine said principles.

10 more posts until the singularity, until we're trying to explain what "Good" and "Bad" mean monosyllabically.

[The Parkus Empire]

You are avoiding the question.

You are putting a presumption in your 'question'.

Incorrect, I did not beg the question.

[The Batavia]

So, I just got an ad that said "Meet other Atheists/Agonistics", I barely even look up things related to atheism...

This is fuckin' creepy.

[Genivaria]

So, I just got an ad that said "Meet other Atheists/Agonists", I barely even look up things related to atheism...

This is fuckin' creepy.

Yes the ads read your browser history.
I once spent alot of time on the Christian thread and I started getting Christian Mingle ads.

[Neutraligon]

Morality is the system and practice of the principle(s) determining the virtue of an act. I will keep going, what do you mean by the principles determining the virtue of an act. How do you determine said principles.

The Tao

Please explain what you mean by this.

[Valrifell]

I'm not quite sure what a Westerner's idea of objective Truth has to do with two American bike makers going "oh shit dude you what'd be cool?"

The only reason that two American bike makers could, well, for a start make bikes and in the second instance make planes is because a bunch of scientists got their calculations and understanding of physics and engineering right - the aeroplane relies on quite a lot of objective truths such as "Newtonian mechanics is mostly accurate at the kinds of speeds at which an aeroplane travels" in order to function. If you go "Well sure, but the Wordijustmadeuppian Sect believes that actually, the forwards velocity of an object is based on the magnetic attraction provided by crystals (and they also believe that crystals do that)", and then insist that because there's no Objective Truth, neither of these beliefs is intrinsically better than the other, the only useful thing I'll have learned from you is not to get in any aeroplane made by the Wordijustmadeuppian Sect. That, and that you don't really understand the difference between objectivity and subjectivity.

My bad, I was working with a different interpretation of "objective Truth" than yours.

[The Batavia]

So, I just got an ad that said "Meet other Atheists/Agonists", I barely even look up things related to atheism...

This is fuckin' creepy.

Yes the ads read your browser history.
I once spent alot of time on the Christian thread and I started getting Christian Mingle ads.

Hmm... Is this where I blame the goverment or something?

[Neutraligon]

Morality is the system and practice of the principle(s) determining the virtue of an act. I will keep going, what do you mean by the principles determining the virtue of an act. How do you determine said principles.

10 more posts until the singularity, until we're trying to explain what "Good" and "Bad" mean monosyllabically.

Definitions are important, right now we do not have a clear definition. Morality tends to have very different meanings to different people. For instance there are those who say that morality is the dictates of a god. At which point i can say that if I use that definition, I can very easily say that objective morality may exist, but depending on the god I have no desire to follow it as my own sense of right and wrong may very well disagree with said dictates.