Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day

[Inter-Universal Republic of Earth]

As many of you know, the US is at a time where tensions between many political sides and factions are soaring higher by the day. But today, at least I believe, we can come together despite our differences and remember those who lost their lives to the surprise attack on Pearl Harbor.

http://www.newsweek.com/pearl-harbor-day-2017-facts-about-attack-japan-united-states-76-years-ago-740973

Seventy-six years ago, the United States was "suddenly and deliberately" attacked by Japan. President Franklin Roosevelt famously described December 7, 1941, as a date that will "live in infamy."

The attack began before 8 a.m. on a Sunday morning, with hundreds of Japanese planes swooping in for a surprise assault on U.S. warships in Pearl Harbor, Hawaii. America had not been expecting an attack, and Pearl Harbor found itself relatively undefended when Japan launched its assault.

The raid left almost 20 U.S. naval vessels, including eight battleships, damaged or destroyed, as well as more than 300 aircraft. More than 2,400 Americans were killed, and about 1,000 were wounded.

As both a historical piece, and one based within American tragedies, I believe this event should be remembered like most other horrific events. What do you think about Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day?

[Tengania]

I, truly, do not know, but I do think it belongs in a list of tragedies that is much too long, including Dieppe, Ypres, 9/11, and many others.

[Shikihara]

I don't really see why it should be considered a "tragedy," any more than any other act of war.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Pearl Harbor was an inside job

#FDRwasatraitor

[Topoliani]

Pearl Harbor was an inside job

#FDRwasatraitor

Sarcasm?

[The Transhuman Union]

I don't really see why it should be considered a "tragedy," any more than any other act of war.

I agree. There's no tragedy in war, because a war is tragedy itself.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Pearl Harbor was an inside job

#FDRwasatraitor

Sarcasm?

Half of it is.

[Valrifell]

I don't really see why it should be considered a "tragedy," any more than any other act of war.

Iirc it's the first and only undeclared attack on US soil by another nation.

[Tengania]

To clarify, I mean "tragedy" as in many people died. I see war as a collection of tragedies that should never have occurred.

[Sovaal]

Pearl Harbor was an inside job

#FDRwasatraitor

#pearlharborwasfilmedinahollywoodstudio

[Sovaal]

Sarcasm?

Half of it is.

Why do you hate America, WRA?/s(?)

[Prumia]

I don't really see why it should be considered a "tragedy," any more than any other act of war.

This. War is war and in the end it helped FDR get what he wanted: a war with Germany. As sad as it may sound, Pearl Harbor was the greatest strategic victory for the Allies in World War 2... And that is without going into the whole "did they know" debate.

[The Ozark Fronteir]

God Bless the Men and Women who lost their lives that fateful day. And Bless the Men and Women who gave and give their lives to fight for America.

[Virginia Confederacy]

Technically the Japs planned on attacking even before that. Right outside of the harbor a few hours before the first wave of planes was launched, a small Ko- hyotekio-class midget sub was sunk by the USS Ward, which was technically the first shot fired during the tragedy at Pearl Harbor.

[Kubumba Tribe]

Technically the Japs planned on attacking even before that. Right outside of the harbor a few hours before the first wave of planes was launched, a small Ko- hyotekio-class midget sub was sunk by the USS Ward, which was technically the first shot fired during the tragedy at Pearl Harbor.

Don't say that, that's a slur

[Kubumba Tribe]

Throughout the United States’ campaign in the Pacific, American soldiers indeed mutilated Japanese corpses and took trophies — not just skulls, but also teeth, ears, noses, even arms

According to James J. Weingartner’s “Trophies of War,” it is clear that the practice was not uncommon.” Similarly, Niall Ferguson writes, in The War of the World, that “boiling the flesh off enemy [Japanese] skulls to make souvenirs was not an uncommon practice. Ears, bones and teeth were also collected.”
And as Simon Harrison puts it in “Skull trophies of the Pacific War, “The collection of body parts on a scale large enough to concern the military authorities had started as soon as the first living or dead Japanese bodies were encountered.”

Congressman Francis E. Walter presented President Franklin Roosevelt with a letter opener made out of a Japanese soldier’s arm bone. In response, Roosevelt reportedly said, “This is the sort of gift I like to get” and “There’ll be plenty more such gifts.”

"As far back as one can go in history, these atrocities have been going on, not only in Germany with its Dachaus and its Buchenwalds and its Camp Doras, but in Russia, in the Pacific, in the riotings and lynchings at home, in the less-publicized uprisings in Central and South America, the cruelties of China, a few years ago in Spain, in pogroms of the past, the burning of witches in New England, tearing people apart on the English racks, burnings at the stake for the benefit of Christ and God. I look down at the pit of ashes….This, I realize, is not a thing confined to any nation or to any people. What the German has done to the Jew in Europe, we are doing to the Jap in the Pacific."

American troops raped 10,000 women on Okinawa alone (with three Marines even staying behind after fighting had stopped so that they could regularly raid villages and rape women). However, historians also universally agree that the vast majority of rapes went unreported, leaving the true total unknowable.

Within just the first ten days in the Kanagawa prefecture alone, 1,336 rapes were reported, with many others likely unreported.

a network of dozens of military brothels catering to Allied troops. These brothels employed tens of thousands of women, some just in their early teens and many “recruited” with force by the police and even the yakuza, to service sometimes dozens of men per day.
With these brothels in place, the number of rapes quickly plummeted. However, when VD rates rose, the government shut the brothels down in early 1946 and rape cases, according to John W. Dower’s Embracing Defeat, instantly ballooned from about 40 per day to about 330 per day.

http://all-that-is-interesting.com/us-w ... rld-war-ii, http://all-that-is-interesting.com/us-w ... d-war-ii/2

[Sovaal]

Throughout the United States’ campaign in the Pacific, American soldiers indeed mutilated Japanese corpses and took trophies — not just skulls, but also teeth, ears, noses, even arms

According to James J. Weingartner’s “Trophies of War,” it is clear that the practice was not uncommon.” Similarly, Niall Ferguson writes, in The War of the World, that “boiling the flesh off enemy [Japanese] skulls to make souvenirs was not an uncommon practice. Ears, bones and teeth were also collected.”
And as Simon Harrison puts it in “Skull trophies of the Pacific War, “The collection of body parts on a scale large enough to concern the military authorities had started as soon as the first living or dead Japanese bodies were encountered.”

Congressman Francis E. Walter presented President Franklin Roosevelt with a letter opener made out of a Japanese soldier’s arm bone. In response, Roosevelt reportedly said, “This is the sort of gift I like to get” and “There’ll be plenty more such gifts.”

"As far back as one can go in history, these atrocities have been going on, not only in Germany with its Dachaus and its Buchenwalds and its Camp Doras, but in Russia, in the Pacific, in the riotings and lynchings at home, in the less-publicized uprisings in Central and South America, the cruelties of China, a few years ago in Spain, in pogroms of the past, the burning of witches in New England, tearing people apart on the English racks, burnings at the stake for the benefit of Christ and God. I look down at the pit of ashes….This, I realize, is not a thing confined to any nation or to any people. What the German has done to the Jew in Europe, we are doing to the Jap in the Pacific."

American troops raped 10,000 women on Okinawa alone (with three Marines even staying behind after fighting had stopped so that they could regularly raid villages and rape women). However, historians also universally agree that the vast majority of rapes went unreported, leaving the true total unknowable.

Within just the first ten days in the Kanagawa prefecture alone, 1,336 rapes were reported, with many others likely unreported.

a network of dozens of military brothels catering to Allied troops. These brothels employed tens of thousands of women, some just in their early teens and many “recruited” with force by the police and even the yakuza, to service sometimes dozens of men per day.
With these brothels in place, the number of rapes quickly plummeted. However, when VD rates rose, the government shut the brothels down in early 1946 and rape cases, according to John W. Dower’s Embracing Defeat, instantly ballooned from about 40 per day to about 330 per day.

http://all-that-is-interesting.com/us-w ... rld-war-ii, http://all-that-is-interesting.com/us-w ... d-war-ii/2

Yep, brutal war,with some barbaric practices on both sides. Would rather have the Americans then the Japanese, however.

[Kubumba Tribe]

Would rather have the Americans then the Japanese, however.

Do you meant that you'd rather have the US win the war than the Japanese?

[Inter-Universal Republic of Earth]

Would rather have the Americans then the Japanese, however.

Do you meant that you'd rather have the US win the war than the Japanese?

Yes.

[Ethel mermania]

Technically the Japs planned on attacking even before that. Right outside of the harbor a few hours before the first wave of planes was launched, a small Ko- hyotekio-class midget sub was sunk by the USS Ward, which was technically the first shot fired during the tragedy at Pearl Harbor.

Don't say that, that's a slur

Nips?

[United Kraven]

I don't really see why it should be considered a "tragedy," any more than any other act of war.

pearl harbor was an unprovoked attack on a neutral nation. japan had not actually declared war on us yet. that makes it a tragedy.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I don't really see why it should be considered a "tragedy," any more than any other act of war.

pearl harbor was an unprovoked attack on a neutral nation. japan had not actually declared war on us yet. that makes it a tragedy.

It was hardly unprovoked. FDR had been trying for some time to join the war.

[Ethel mermania]

pearl harbor was an unprovoked attack on a neutral nation. japan had not actually declared war on us yet. that makes it a tragedy.

It was hardly unprovoked. FDR had been trying for some time to join the war.

What made it perfidious was the negotiations went on till the attack, and the war message was delivered after the attack.

[Avangard]

pearl harbor was an unprovoked attack on a neutral nation. japan had not actually declared war on us yet. that makes it a tragedy.

It was hardly unprovoked. FDR had been trying for some time to join the war.

It was technically unprovoked, because the United States had made no influential intentions of declaring war or joining the war besides lend leasing the Allies. However, I believe that the Japanese did do it because of FDR trying to join the war one way or the other.

[Washington Resistance Army]

We actually need Hiroshima rememberance day and Nagasaki to be fair.
Using nukes is to me a war crime. I won't say it shouldn't or should have been done but it deserves remembrance day regardless due to being two of the worst attacks in history, the Japanese never thought such a devastating weapon would be used on their civilians.
My only worry is Japanese nationalists will use this to claim innocence or that the USA was the bad guy...

The firebombings were worse tbh

It was hardly unprovoked. FDR had been trying for some time to join the war.

It was technically unprovoked, because the United States had made no influential intentions of declaring war or joining the war besides lend leasing the Allies. However, I believe that the Japanese did do it because of FDR trying to join the war one way or the other.

It absolutely was because of FDR and his policies that they attacked us. He'd continually poked and prodded Japan and when we cut off things like oil shipments that pretty much confirmed to them that we were the enemy. He was also quite antagonistic towards Germany.