Kim Davis challenged by man to whom she denied license

[Corrian]

Though I appreciate the irony and hope he gives her a run for her money, I hope he wins for being a better candidate, not for shits and giggles or just because he's gay. People these days get too caught up in politicing and novelty, instead of voting based on merit.

I think the fact he'd automatically do his job makes him a better candidate.

Though not sure versus the others running.

[Ifreann]

Anyone else think it's fucking stupid to be electing civil servants like this?

Like, a country clerk is a bureaucrat, right? The job solely entails processing paperwork, like marriage licenses and what have you, yeah? Why would you elect someone to that position? Why not just hire someone?

Yeah, doesn't seem like a position that needs to be decided on by the people. Seems like the county could just appoint them.

Even appointing someone doesn't make sense. This is just an office job. Hire someone with relevant managerial experience. Or promote someone internally.

[San Lumen]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/06/politics/kim-davis-david-ernold-campaign-trnd/index.html

A gay man who was twice denied a marriage license by Kim Davis has thrown his hat in the ring to run against her for county clerk.

David Ermold, an assistant professor of English at the University of Pikeville, announced his plan to run against Davis for the position of Rowan County Clerk in Kentucky.
Davis made headlines in 2015 when she defied a US Supreme Court ruling that legalized same-sex marriage and refused to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples. She spent five days in jail for refusing to abide by the court's ruling.

Among those who were denied a license was Ermold and his partner of more than 15 years, David Moore.
"This is how gay people are treated in this country, this is what it's like, this is their experience, this is how it feels," Ermold said in an emotional statement after he was denied a license for a second time in 2015.
On Wednesday, Ermold announced his intention to run against Davis on the platform of fairness and integrity, he said in a statement.
In addition to Davis and Ermold, three other candidates plan to run for the seat, according to CNN affiliate WYMT.
The election is on May 22, 2018. Davis was elected to Rowan County Clerk in 2014, and previously worked for her mother, the county clerk for 37 years.
CNN has reached out to Davis for comment.

So Kim Davis has been challenged for her position by a man to whom she refused to grant a marriage license to. She even had to handle his candidate registration herself! I think this is a dose of sweet, sweet irony. I find that things like these have been happening a lot recently; such as trangender woman Danica Roem defeating Delegate Bob Marshall, a self-professed "homophobe" in Virginia.

So what does everyone think about Kim davis facing a taste of irony? what about conservative officials being challenged by people who are directly contradictory to their own way of thinking?

I think its priceless and I wonder how she must have felt when she had to handle his candidate registration. I hope karma strikes her like it did so many others in 2017 and she loses to him.

[San Lumen]

The real question is: what party does he belong to?

The sources I've seen indicate he's a Democrat, and he's challenging Kim Davis (also a Democrat, for some reason) in the Democratic primary.

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out ... on-n819011
Kim Davis has announced she will run for reelection as Republican.

[Nioya]

Well that's great. I hope he wins.

[Thermodolia]

Though I appreciate the irony and hope he gives her a run for her money, I hope he wins for being a better candidate, not for shits and giggles or just because he's gay. People these days get too caught up in politicing and novelty, instead of voting based on merit.

I agree. I'd vote for him not because he's gay but because he's clearly the better candidate

[San Lumen]

Yeah, doesn't seem like a position that needs to be decided on by the people. Seems like the county could just appoint them.

Even appointing someone doesn't make sense. This is just an office job. Hire someone with relevant managerial experience. Or promote someone internally.

On your logic why elect anyone to most positions? Why not for example just hire an Attorney General which is basically an attorney for the state government or do the same for State Comptroller or District Attorney?

[Corrian]

Good on him. Take that self-victimizing douche's place.

Well, I hope she gets Danica Roem'd.

It seems like we're in the middle of a karma wave nowadays, so it's likely. :3

Can you imagine the Karma Wave in 2018 when there are many more elections up? There was already a bunch as is.

[Thermodolia]

The real question is: what party does he belong to?

The sources I've seen indicate he's a Democrat, and he's challenging Kim Davis (also a Democrat, for some reason) in the Democratic primary.

In a very democratic county

[San Lumen]

The sources I've seen indicate he's a Democrat, and he's challenging Kim Davis (also a Democrat, for some reason) in the Democratic primary.

In a very democratic county

Davis has announced she's running for reelection as a Republican.

[Alvecia]

Yeah, doesn't seem like a position that needs to be decided on by the people. Seems like the county could just appoint them.

Even appointing someone doesn't make sense. This is just an office job. Hire someone with relevant managerial experience. Or promote someone internally.

That’s kind of what I was going for, I just can’t english good.

[Corrian]

Even appointing someone doesn't make sense. This is just an office job. Hire someone with relevant managerial experience. Or promote someone internally.

On your logic why elect anyone to most positions? Why not for example just hire an Attorney General which is basically an attorney for the state government or do the same for State Comptroller or District Attorney?

There is a blatant difference between some County Clerk, which just sounds like a normal job, and Attorney General's. Even I agree it seems kinda weird to elect someone to such a position.

[Thermodolia]

Anyone else think it's fucking stupid to be electing civil servants like this?

Like, a country clerk is a bureaucrat, right? The job solely entails processing paperwork, like marriage licenses and what have you, yeah? Why would you elect someone to that position? Why not just hire someone?

Oh iffy if only you knew.

Everyone must be decided by the people, and I mean everyone. Judges are voted into office in some counties as are medical examiners and sheriffs.

Basically it's entirely possible to vote for literally every single possible position in some counties

[Ifreann]

Even appointing someone doesn't make sense. This is just an office job. Hire someone with relevant managerial experience. Or promote someone internally.

On your logic why elect anyone to most positions?

Why indeed? Not every role needs to be elected. Certainly not some of the offices Americans elect people to.

Why not for example just hire an Attorney General which is basically an attorney for the state government or do the same for State Comptroller or District Attorney?

It's reasonable for the state's chief attorneys to be appointed from a pool of candidates with relevant legal experience. The job would be fairly political at that level. Be stupid to elect attorneys general, though. Not really a job that needs to be directly answerable to the public.

[Corrian]

The sources I've seen indicate he's a Democrat, and he's challenging Kim Davis (also a Democrat, for some reason) in the Democratic primary.

In a very democratic county

It voted very solidly Trump

[Farnhamia]

Anyone else think it's fucking stupid to be electing civil servants like this?

Like, a country clerk is a bureaucrat, right? The job solely entails processing paperwork, like marriage licenses and what have you, yeah? Why would you elect someone to that position? Why not just hire someone?

Oh iffy if only you knew.

Everyone must be decided by the people, and I mean everyone. Judges are voted into office in some counties as are medical examiners and sheriffs.

Basically it's entirely possible to vote for literally every single possible position in some counties

Is it even legal to vote against an hereditary County Clerk? Kim Davis' mother was the County Clerk before her and Davis served as her mother's deputy CC. That makes her the heir presumptive, right?

[Thermodolia]

On your logic why elect anyone to most positions? Why not for example just hire an Attorney General which is basically an attorney for the state government or do the same for State Comptroller or District Attorney?

There is a blatant difference between some County Clerk, which just sounds like a normal job, and Attorney General's. Even I agree it seems kinda weird to elect someone to such a position.

In some counties literally every possible position of power is elected, MEs, Judges, clerks of all kind, county DAs, sheriff, the water board, the county commissioners, and the board of education are all elected

[Thermodolia]

In a very democratic county

It voted very solidly Trump

Well it was in 2015

[Corrian]

There is a blatant difference between some County Clerk, which just sounds like a normal job, and Attorney General's. Even I agree it seems kinda weird to elect someone to such a position.

In some counties literally every possible position of power is elected, MEs, Judges, clerks of all kind, county DAs, sheriff, the water board, the county commissioners, and the board of education are all elected

I know I had some board of education candidates here. I didn't vote for any of them because none seemed that interesting, so I figured I'll leave it to people who actually go to school.

Speaking of stuff like that, the other day I saw someone who wrote themselves in to a judge job (A small judge job) in Pennsylvania and won.

[Thermodolia]

On your logic why elect anyone to most positions?

Why indeed? Not every role needs to be elected. Certainly not some of the offices Americans elect people to.

Why not for example just hire an Attorney General which is basically an attorney for the state government or do the same for State Comptroller or District Attorney?

It's reasonable for the state's chief attorneys to be appointed from a pool of candidates with relevant legal experience. The job would be fairly political at that level. Be stupid to elect attorneys general, though. Not really a job that needs to be directly answerable to the public.

You where saying? Its literally a running joke, anything that can be elected will be

[Corrian]

Why indeed? Not every role needs to be elected. Certainly not some of the offices Americans elect people to.

It's reasonable for the state's chief attorneys to be appointed from a pool of candidates with relevant legal experience. The job would be fairly political at that level. Be stupid to elect attorneys general, though. Not really a job that needs to be directly answerable to the public.

You where saying? Its literally a running joke, anything that can be elected will be

Virginia did this too, right?

[Ifreann]

On your logic why elect anyone to most positions? Why not for example just hire an Attorney General which is basically an attorney for the state government or do the same for State Comptroller or District Attorney?

There is a blatant difference between some County Clerk, which just sounds like a normal job, and Attorney General's. Even I agree it seems kinda weird to elect someone to such a position.

The plural of Attorney General is Attorneys General, incidentally.

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Anyone else think it's fucking stupid to be electing civil servants like this?

Like, a country clerk is a bureaucrat, right? The job solely entails processing paperwork, like marriage licenses and what have you, yeah? Why would you elect someone to that position? Why not just hire someone?

Oh iffy if only you knew.

Everyone must be decided by the people, and I mean everyone. Judges are voted into office in some counties as are medical examiners and sheriffs.

Basically it's entirely possible to vote for literally every single possible position in some counties

Oh, I know. I've mentioned it a few times when I've seen people saying that America isn't a democracy.

[Thermodolia]

You where saying? Its literally a running joke, anything that can be elected will be

Virginia did this too, right?

Yup. Most states do it. When it comes to local politics we are very close to direct democracy

[Corrian]

Virginia did this too, right?

Yup. Most states do it. When it comes to local politics we are very close to direct democracy

Now if only that was the case all around...but that is another story.

[Telconi]

Virginia did this too, right?

Yup. Most states do it. When it comes to local politics we are very close to direct democracy

Not really, it's still representative. We elect a DA to decide what crimes to prosecute, and what charges to press. We don't vote on each and every indictment. Same for Sheriffs, Clerks, etc. While not legislators, they are representatives of the people's will.