Trump just recognized Jerusalem as Israel's Capital

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Jerusalem has only been Israel's capital since the f*cking first century and most likely longer than that! The Palestinian terrorists have no legitimate claim over the holy land whatsoever, they'd have better luck claiming Stockholm as their capital.

and also may I add, at last a US President carrying out his promises. It's been a long time coming.

Disclaimer: Israel technically wasn't a country in the First Century.

[Xenthalia]

Jerusalem has only been Israel's capital since the f*cking first century and most likely longer than that! The Palestinian terrorists have no legitimate claim over the holy land whatsoever, they'd have better luck claiming Stockholm as their capital.

and also may I add, at last a US President carrying out his promises. It's been a long time coming.

Disclaimer: Israel technically wasn't a country in the First Century.

But it was the area in which Jerusalem was the capital, correct me if I'm wrong.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Disclaimer: Israel technically wasn't a country in the First Century.

But it was the area in which Jerusalem was the capital, correct me if I'm wrong.

Actually, IIRC the area was divided between three kingdoms at that time.

[RoyalUKR]

Jerusalem is the Eternal Capital of Israel.

[Socialist Czechia]

Jerusalem is the Eternal Capital of Israel.

There is only one Eternal City in the world, though.

[RoyalUKR]

Jerusalem is the Eternal Capital of Israel.

There is only one Eternal City in the world, though.

Jerusalem is older than Rome.

[Holy Tedalonia]

Jerusalem is the Eternal Capital of Israel.

There is only one Eternal City in the world, though.

Attila and co ruined the eternal city. Nothing is eternal.

[Holy Tedalonia]

There is only one Eternal City in the world, though.

Jerusalem is older than Rome.

Doesn't matter. The Eternal City is Romes nickname whether it's true or not.

[RoyalUKR]

Jerusalem is older than Rome.

Doesn't matter. The Eternal City is Romes nickname whether it's true or not.

Jerusalem was the eternal capital before Rome and still is after Rome.

[Socialist Czechia]

There is only one Eternal City in the world, though.

(Image)

Jerusalem is older than Rome.

And Damascus is older than Jerusalem. Athens too, probably.

But Jerusalem is not called 'eternal'. Probably because what happened to rhe city, after traitor Simon Bar Giora met his end, as his followers, from rightful wrath of Emperor Titus

[Kibbutz Unions]

Jerusalem is older than Rome.

And Damascus is older than Jerusalem. Athens too, probably.

But Jerusalem is not called 'eternal'. Probably because what happened to rhe city, after traitor Simon Bar Giora met his end, as his followers, from rightful wrath of Emperor Titus

What is this, a competition?
Plus, Jericho is probably older than Damascus. I win.

[Tajeria]

Guys, 136 countries recognize Palestine as a NATION. If 136 countries recognize Palestine, that's the majority of the entire world beliving that Palestine is a country, meaning that, for all intents and purposes, it is a nation. If Palestine is a nation, then shouldn't it be illegal to occupy a part of a country and declare it as your capital? See, this is the problem with the current UN system of recognizing countries, because this will just be left unnoticed by the west, which are the countries that do not recognize Palestine, this should technically be a declaration of war. But, it's not because not eveyone has recognized it. It could be that once a majority of the world recognizes it as a country, then it is a country. That way, stuff like this wouldn't just fall under the radar and be seen as insane. It also won;t allow countries that don't reognize a county to misinform the populus. But then again, that would take away some rights from other nations so....

[Ors Might]

Guys, 136 countries recognize Palestine as a NATION. If 136 countries recognize Palestine, that's the majority of the entire world beliving that Palestine is a country, meaning that, for all intents and purposes, it is a nation. If Palestine is a nation, then shouldn't it be illegal to occupy a part of a country and declare it as your capital? See, this is the problem with the current UN system of recognizing countries, because this will just be left unnoticed by the west, which are the countries that do not recognize Palestine, this should technically be a declaration of war. But, it's not because not eveyone has recognized it. It could be that once a majority of the world recognizes it as a country, then it is a country. That way, stuff like this wouldn't just fall under the radar and be seen as insane. It also won;t allow countries that don't reognize a county to misinform the populus. But then again, that would take away some rights from other nations so....

I’m not an expert on international law but is land gained through defensive action against an aggressive power illegal? Provided that the land was taken from said aggressive power, of course.

[Community Values]

Guys, 136 countries recognize Palestine as a NATION. If 136 countries recognize Palestine, that's the majority of the entire world beliving that Palestine is a country, meaning that, for all intents and purposes, it is a nation. If Palestine is a nation, then shouldn't it be illegal to occupy a part of a country and declare it as your capital? See, this is the problem with the current UN system of recognizing countries, because this will just be left unnoticed by the west, which are the countries that do not recognize Palestine, this should technically be a declaration of war. But, it's not because not eveyone has recognized it. It could be that once a majority of the world recognizes it as a country, then it is a country. That way, stuff like this wouldn't just fall under the radar and be seen as insane. It also won;t allow countries that don't reognize a county to misinform the populus. But then again, that would take away some rights from other nations so....

It's a nation to 136 countries. It's illegal occupation to 136 countries. To the remaining countries, it's not a nation, and ergo not illegal occupation. When was nation recognition ever a vote?

[Holy Tedalonia]

Guys, 136 countries recognize Palestine as a NATION. If 136 countries recognize Palestine, that's the majority of the entire world beliving that Palestine is a country, meaning that, for all intents and purposes, it is a nation. If Palestine is a nation, then shouldn't it be illegal to occupy a part of a country and declare it as your capital? See, this is the problem with the current UN system of recognizing countries, because this will just be left unnoticed by the west, which are the countries that do not recognize Palestine, this should technically be a declaration of war. But, it's not because not eveyone has recognized it. It could be that once a majority of the world recognizes it as a country, then it is a country. That way, stuff like this wouldn't just fall under the radar and be seen as insane. It also won;t allow countries that don't reognize a county to misinform the populus. But then again, that would take away some rights from other nations so....

I’m not an expert on international law but is land not gained through defensive action against an aggressive power legal? Provided that the land was taken from said aggressive power, of course.

Palestine was the ones to declare war first, and Isreal occupied the territory in a treaty they begrudgingly agreed to. How I see it, this is the best possible peace solution until Palestinians immigrate peacefully into Isreal fully removing this political issue.

[Holy Tedalonia]

Guys, 136 countries recognize Palestine as a NATION. If 136 countries recognize Palestine, that's the majority of the entire world beliving that Palestine is a country, meaning that, for all intents and purposes, it is a nation. If Palestine is a nation, then shouldn't it be illegal to occupy a part of a country and declare it as your capital? See, this is the problem with the current UN system of recognizing countries, because this will just be left unnoticed by the west, which are the countries that do not recognize Palestine, this should technically be a declaration of war. But, it's not because not eveyone has recognized it. It could be that once a majority of the world recognizes it as a country, then it is a country. That way, stuff like this wouldn't just fall under the radar and be seen as insane. It also won;t allow countries that don't reognize a county to misinform the populus. But then again, that would take away some rights from other nations so....

It's a nation to 136 countries. It's illegal occupation to 136 countries. To the remaining countries, it's not a nation, and ergo not illegal occupation. When was nation recognition ever a vote?

If I don't recognize the UK as a nation, so they can't vote?

Flaws like that might start rising

[Ors Might]

I’m not an expert on international law but is land not gained through defensive action against an aggressive power legal? Provided that the land was taken from said aggressive power, of course.

Palestine was the ones to declare war first, and Isreal occupied the territory in a treaty they begrudgingly agreed to. How I see it, this is the best possible peace solution until Palestinians immigrate peacefully into Isreal fully removing this political issue.

Then Israel is the rightful occupier of the land. Simple enough.

[Socialist Czechia]

First thing MUST BE the tolerance of Jewish state if Muslims truly wants any comprehensive settlement

This could happen, if Arabs were reasonable in 1930s.


This could happen, if Arabs were reasonable in 1940s.


And West Bank and half of Jerusalem would be still realm of Jordanese King, if they didn't start local Arab Axis to destroy Jews once and for all.


Do you Arabs, Iranians, Turks and whatever else worship mostly same deity, understand, that Jewish state WILL exist and NO MAN can alter it?

After so many victorious wars, if I was religious, I'd also claim that existence of Israel is a will of God Try to deny it...

[Greed and Death]

First thing MUST BE the tolerance of Jewish state if Muslims truly wants any comprehensive settlement

This could happen, if Arabs were reasonable in 1930s.
(Image)

This could happen, if Arabs were reasonable in 1940s.
(Image)

And West Bank and half of Jerusalem would be still realm of Jordanese King, if they didn't start local Arab Axis to destroy Jews once and for all.


Do you Arabs, Iranians, Turks and whatever else worship mostly same deity, understand, that Jewish state WILL exist and NO MAN can alter it?

After so many victorious wars, if I was religious, I'd also claim that existence of Israel is a will of God Try to deny it...

Both sides rejected the Peel proposal.

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Zionist_ ... resolution

[Socialist Czechia]

Both sides rejected the Peel proposal.

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Zionist_ ... resolution

Nope.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peel_Commission

While some factions at the Congress supported the Peel Report, arguing that later the borders could be adjusted, others opposed the proposal because the Jewish State would be too small. The Congress decided to reject the specific borders recommended by the Peel Commission, but empowered its executive to negotiate a more favorable plan for a Jewish State in Palestine.[34][35] In the wake of the Peel Commission the Jewish Agency set up committees to begin planning for the state. At the time, it had already created a complete administrative apparatus amounting to "a Government existing side by side with the Mandatory Government."[35]

At the same Zionist Congress, David Ben-Gurion, then chairman of the executive committee of the Jewish Agency for Palestine, told those in attendance that, though "there could be no question...of giving up any part of the Land of Israel,... it was arguable that the ultimate goal would be achieved most quickly by accepting the Peel proposals."[36] University of Arizona professor Charles D. Smith suggests that, "Weizmann and Ben-Gurion did not feel they had to be bound by the borders proposed [by the Peel Commission]. These could be considered temporary boundaries to be expanded in the future."[36] Ben-Gurion saw the plan as only a stage in the realisation of a larger Jewish state.[37]

So, they were actually in favour of that: but Arabs, without any discussion, rejected it, thinking exactly what is above, that Jews will want more anyway and that Jewish state in unthinkable altogether.
But it was Arab mistake: if they accepted, they would have more options in the future, especially in keeping Jews in that small portion of Palestine.


If you want to defend everything, you can lose everything.

[Frostnia]

First thing MUST BE the tolerance of Jewish state if Muslims truly wants any comprehensive settlement

This could happen, if Arabs were reasonable in 1930s.
(Image)

This could happen, if Arabs were reasonable in 1940s.
(Image)

And West Bank and half of Jerusalem would be still realm of Jordanese King, if they didn't start local Arab Axis to destroy Jews once and for all.


Do you Arabs, Iranians, Turks and whatever else worship mostly same deity, understand, that Jewish state WILL exist and NO MAN can alter it?

After so many victorious wars, if I was religious, I'd also claim that existence of Israel is a will of God Try to deny it...

Honestly I kinda wish the Arabs accepted the second proposal. Could’ve been cool to see if Israel evolved into a system like Switzerland with all the different languages and cultures. But nope.

[Sovaal]

First thing MUST BE the tolerance of Jewish state if Muslims truly wants any comprehensive settlement

This could happen, if Arabs were reasonable in 1930s.
(Image)

This could happen, if Arabs were reasonable in 1940s.
(Image)

And West Bank and half of Jerusalem would be still realm of Jordanese King, if they didn't start local Arab Axis to destroy Jews once and for all.


Do you Arabs, Iranians, Turks and whatever else worship mostly same deity, understand, that Jewish state WILL exist and NO MAN can alter it?

After so many victorious wars, if I was religious, I'd also claim that existence of Israel is a will of God Try to deny it...

Honestly I kinda wish the Arabs accepted the second proposal. Could’ve been cool to see if Israel evolved into a system like Switzerland with all the different languages and cultures. But nope.

Eh, the Holy Land is destined for its current state imo.