Trump just recognized Jerusalem as Israel's Capital

[Kash Island]

At least this proves that he's not a "Nazi".

Btw where was the outrage when every other president since the 1990's said the exact same thing? The difference is they didn't live up to their promises.

yeah they all said it, Republican/Democrat, to cheering masses but now that Trump follows through they get triggered, screw them.

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

The Liberty's colors were flying through the entire engagement. Her identity was never in doubt.
The Jewish insurgency leading up to Israel's establishment cannot be separated from Israeli history - especially when Menachem Begin both ordered the King David Hotel bombing and later became the Prime Minister of Israel. It's blindingly obvious that:
1. Israel was established by and for terrorists.
2. The Jewish people in Israel are complicit in this terrorism by electing terrorists to the position of Prime Minister.

"electing terrorists to the position of prime minister" Are we talking about Palestine now?

Whether or not the Palestinians are terrorists is not relevant to whether or not Israel is.

In fact, they are also terrorists, but it's important to note that historically the Jews in Palestine were the first to use the tactic of bombing civilian centers for a political agenda

I already gave the example of Menachem Begin, if you think he was not a terrorist, you're more than welcome to try making the case.

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

Whether or not the Palestinians are terrorists is not relevant to whether or not Israel is.

In fact, they are also terrorists, but it's important to note that historically the Jews in Palestine were the first to use the tactic of bombing civilian centers for a political agenda

I already gave the example of Menachem Begin, if you think he was not a terrorist, you're more than welcome to try making the case.

Such as the bombing of King David hotel and the such. However, the Jews were being killed in Palestine 20 years prior to Israel even being created, so they could use the "fire with fire" argument.

And if they were to use that argument, it would not excuse them, because they targeted British civilians just as much as Palestinians, and the British had never terrorized Jews in Palestine.
There's other examples too of Israeli terrorism too, of course - the assassination of Gerald Bull by Mossad, for instance.

[Len Hyet]

Such as the bombing of King David hotel and the such. However, the Jews were being killed in Palestine 20 years prior to Israel even being created, so they could use the "fire with fire" argument.

And if they were to use that argument, it would not excuse them, because they targeted British civilians just as much as Palestinians, and the British had never terrorized Jews in Palestine.
There's other examples too of Israeli terrorism too, of course - the assassination of Gerald Bull by Mossad, for instance.

Killing a weapons designer on the verge of making a canon able to strike Israel on behalf of Saddam Hussein doesn't qualify as terrorism by anyone's definition.

[Holy Tedalonia]

Such as the bombing of King David hotel and the such. However, the Jews were being killed in Palestine 20 years prior to Israel even being created, so they could use the "fire with fire" argument.

And if they were to use that argument, it would not excuse them, because they targeted British civilians just as much as Palestinians, and the British had never terrorized Jews in Palestine.
There's other examples too of Israeli terrorism too, of course - the assassination of Gerald Bull by Mossad, for instance.

To be fair, it was before Isreal was founded. Would be considered a Jewish terrorist attack rather than a Isreal one.

[Uxupox]

Most excellent. Always happy to see the United States supporting our greatest ally in the region.

[Petrasylvania]

Most excellent. Always happy to see the United States supporting our greatest ally in the region.

An ally that won't hesitate to stab Uncle Sam in the sphincter if they think it'll be to their own benefit.

[Bakery Hill]

Most excellent. Always happy to see the United States supporting our greatest ally in the region.

An ally that won't hesitate to stab Uncle Sam in the sphincter if they think it'll be to their own benefit.

That's how the real world works son.

[Petrasylvania]

An ally that won't hesitate to stab Uncle Sam in the sphincter if they think it'll be to their own benefit.

That's how the real world works son.

Supporting a state that stabs you in the ass out of convenience. That's called an abusive relationship when applied to people.

[Bakery Hill]

That's how the real world works son.

Supporting a state that stabs you in the ass out of convenience. That's called an abusive relationship when applied to people.

If you think foreign relations are based on loyalty and not sheer national (or rather class) interest I'd probably direct you towards the current state of the world and the length of breadth of human history. Nations don't have friends, only interests.

[Petrasylvania]

Supporting a state that stabs you in the ass out of convenience. That's called an abusive relationship when applied to people.

If you think foreign relations are based on loyalty and not sheer national (or rather class) interest I'd probably direct you towards the current state of the world and the length of breadth of human history. Nations don't have friends, only interests.

Oh yeah, like how Evangelical Christians only support the existence of Israel because they hope it'll burn and send a Bat Signal to Jesus to get the Second Coming started.

[Bakery Hill]

If you think foreign relations are based on loyalty and not sheer national (or rather class) interest I'd probably direct you towards the current state of the world and the length of breadth of human history. Nations don't have friends, only interests.

Oh yeah, like how Evangelical Christians only support the existence of Israel because they hope it'll burn and send a Bat Signal to Jesus to get the Second Coming started.

Yes. That's one of many examples of supporting a nation for your own personal and selfish interests. For people who don't rely upon iron age fables for their foreign policy, Israel also provides a bridgehead for American interests in the Middle East, it buys American arms, and support for the nation's existence at the very least also means a degree support from local Jewish communities when election time comes round.

Israel stands with America for the same sorts of reasons.

[Salus Maior]

And if they were to use that argument, it would not excuse them, because they targeted British civilians just as much as Palestinians, and the British had never terrorized Jews in Palestine.
There's other examples too of Israeli terrorism too, of course - the assassination of Gerald Bull by Mossad, for instance.

To be fair, it was before Isreal was founded. Would be considered a Jewish terrorist attack rather than a Isreal one.

I feel like that's saying Turkey isn't responsible for the Armenian genocide because the Republic of Turkey didn't exist yet.

[Longweather]

To be fair, it was before Isreal was founded. Would be considered a Jewish terrorist attack rather than a Isreal one.

I feel like that's saying Turkey isn't responsible for the Armenian genocide because the Republic of Turkey didn't exist yet.

It's a bit different in that the Government of the Grand National Assembly, one of the parties involved in the genocide, eventually transitioned to a proper Republic of Turkey. Igrun, while a terrorist organization, didn't have a similar relation with the Provisional State Council or the Knesset.

[Bakery Hill]

I feel like that's saying Turkey isn't responsible for the Armenian genocide because the Republic of Turkey didn't exist yet.

It's a bit different in that the Government of the Grand National Assembly, one of the parties involved in the genocide, eventually transitioned to a proper Republic of Turkey. Igrun, while a terrorist organization, didn't have a similar relation with the Provisional State Council or the Knesset.

No Irgun just ended up getting integrated into the IDF, while it's last leader founded the current ruling party and became Israel's Prime Minister.

[Donut section]

This whole situation is stupid the two states solution was accomplished with the foundation of Jordan. There is no such thing as Palestine. There is Israel and Jordan. You can choose to live under Israeli or Arab rule. Jordanian people living in Israel as "Palestinians" are illegally living on Israeli land.

[Baltenstein]

Most excellent. Always happy to see the United States supporting our greatest ally in the region.

An ally that won't hesitate to stab Uncle Sam in the sphincter if they think it'll be to their own benefit.

Uncle Sam isn't exactly squeamish about abandoning its allies either when convenient, as the Kurds, among others, have found out time and time again. That's Realpolitik, pure and simple.

[Magnus Germania]

Don't forget, Trump is literally Hitler because the liberals told us so.

[G-Tech Corporation]

An ally that won't hesitate to stab Uncle Sam in the sphincter if they think it'll be to their own benefit.

Uncle Sam isn't exactly squeamish about abandoning its allies either when convenient, as the Kurds, among others, have found out time and time again. That's Realpolitik, pure and simple.

Poor gorram Kurds.

Down with Erdogan 2018. Rojava for newest independent state.

[Gregicstan]

Jerusalem is a city of the Jewish and Christian religion is should be in their hands. They are one of the most peaceful nations.

[Bakery Hill]

This whole situation is stupid the two states solution was accomplished with the foundation of Jordan. There is no such thing as Palestine. There is Israel and Jordan. You can choose to live under Israeli or Arab rule. Jordanian people living in Israel as "Palestinians" are illegally living on Israeli land.

The law in Israel doesn't even say that, that's a pretty cooked take.

[Senegalboy]

Jerusalem is a city of the Jewish and Christian religion is should be in their hands. They are one of the most peaceful nations.

It is important to Jews,Christians and Muslims not just Jews and Christians

[Holy Tedalonia]

Jerusalem is a city of the Jewish and Christian religion is should be in their hands. They are one of the most peaceful nations.

It is important to Jews,Christians and Muslims not just Jews and Christians

To be fair, they're Muslims in Jerusalem albeit few since most sided with Palestine and left.

[Thermodolia]

It is important to Jews,Christians and Muslims not just Jews and Christians

To be fair, they're Muslims in Jerusalem albeit few since most sided with Palestine and left.

I didn't know that 35% or 281,000 is a few now.

[Thermodolia]

Most excellent. Always happy to see the United States supporting our greatest ally in the region.

An ally that won't hesitate to stab Uncle Sam in the sphincter if they think it'll be to their own benefit.

We would do the same and we have