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Do you approve or disapprove of this action?

Approve(Like Israel)
193
31%
Approve(Dislike Israel)
21
3%
Approve(Neutral)
42
7%
Unsure(Like Israel)
25
4%
Unsure(Dislike Israel)
14
2%
Unsure(Neutral on Israel)
44
7%
Disapprove(Like Israel)
70
11%
Disapprove(Hate Israel)
94
15%
Disapprove(Neutral on Israel)
125
20%
 
Total votes : 628

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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:21 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Wysten wrote:No not really in terms of definition war crime happens during a conflict a crime against humanity can happen in both peaceful and war time.

Yeah, but the military or armed force can be involved, so it's a rather reasonable one.
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Postby Watuhuru » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:29 pm

The Knockout Gun Gals wrote:I'm very surprised to see the poll favors the Approvals and the Likes for Israel.


I know, that is kinda interesting. At least when you consider what the majority of people down here are saying.

Edit: Then again, I just counted and the Disapproval actually hedges out the victory by six votes, it's just that they're more divided by how much they like Israel.
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Postby Zilkia » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:52 pm

I think that this is a despicable move. Israel has committed several war crimes against Palestine, and while I’m unsure about what should happen to the disputed land of Israel and Palestine, but I disapprove of doing this. It’s likely because he wants more support of right wingers

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Postby Wysten » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:58 pm

Zilkia wrote:I think that this is a despicable move. Israel has committed several war crimes against Palestine, and while I’m unsure about what should happen to the disputed land of Israel and Palestine, but I disapprove of doing this. It’s likely because he wants more support of right wingers

By War crimes do you mean trying their hardest to get people out of an area of a strike and the Palestine government using schools and hospitals as meat shields for their rockets?
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:21 pm

The Confederacy of Nationalism wrote:
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“War crimes”

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Never forget the Liberty and the King David Hotel Bombing.


A case of mistaken identity and an action by a terrorist group before the state of Israel even existed?

Oh yes, those both seem like clear war crimes we can lay at the door of those bastard Jews.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:27 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
The Confederacy of Nationalism wrote:Never forget the Liberty and the King David Hotel Bombing.


A case of mistaken identity and an action by a terrorist group before the state of Israel even existed?

Oh yes, those both seem like clear war crimes we can lay at the door of those bastard Jews.


Question. How many passes does Israel get? My personal favourite for them being a rogue nation are the uses of fake western passports for Israeli assassins.

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Postby Sovaal » Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:29 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
A case of mistaken identity and an action by a terrorist group before the state of Israel even existed?

Oh yes, those both seem like clear war crimes we can lay at the door of those bastard Jews.


Question. How many passes does Israel get? My personal favourite for them being a rogue nation are the uses of fake western passports for Israeli assassins.

I mean other nation's spies often assume fake aliases as well...
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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:30 pm

Sovaal wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Question. How many passes does Israel get? My personal favourite for them being a rogue nation are the uses of fake western passports for Israeli assassins.

I mean other nation's spies often assume fake aliases as well...


They don't assume the identities of real people from other, apparently allied, nations.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:33 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
A case of mistaken identity and an action by a terrorist group before the state of Israel even existed?

Oh yes, those both seem like clear war crimes we can lay at the door of those bastard Jews.


Question. How many passes does Israel get? My personal favourite for them being a rogue nation are the uses of fake western passports for Israeli assassins.

Wow, did you not read or something? It's says BEFORE THE STATE EXISTED which means it's impractical to blame them for that. However if you have proof of any other passes then you can surely source them can you not? I mean we ought to know these missgivings you have about them.
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Postby Sovaal » Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:36 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Sovaal wrote:I mean other nation's spies often assume fake aliases as well...


They don't assume the identities of real people from other, apparently allied, nations.

If I where you I wouldn't be so quick to assume that. We're talking about organisations that have no problem making people "disappear" to secret black sites to be tortured for information, a little identity theft is pretty petty under that.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:27 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
A case of mistaken identity and an action by a terrorist group before the state of Israel even existed?

Oh yes, those both seem like clear war crimes we can lay at the door of those bastard Jews.


Question. How many passes does Israel get? My personal favourite for them being a rogue nation are the uses of fake western passports for Israeli assassins.


Passes? As many as are legitimate. I would no more blame the Israeli government for the King David hotel bombing than I would the United States government for the Oklahoma city bombing. To do otherwise would be foolish.

Israeli assassins who killed a lot of people that needed killing at the time. I mean, the States have arguably done far worse in their quest to seek out Bin Laden et al. and those actions should be weighed by their merit.
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Postby Vallermoore » Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:36 pm

Whenever I hear about Palestinians they are either rioting or suffering. Have they ever created anything good at all? They are either victims or causing trouble.

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Postby Proctopeo » Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:03 pm

Vallermoore wrote:Whenever I hear about Palestinians they are either rioting or suffering. Have they ever created anything good at all? They are either victims or causing trouble.

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Postby The Confederacy of Nationalism » Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:50 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
The Confederacy of Nationalism wrote:Never forget the Liberty and the King David Hotel Bombing.


A case of mistaken identity and an action by a terrorist group before the state of Israel even existed?

Oh yes, those both seem like clear war crimes we can lay at the door of those bastard Jews.

The Liberty's colors were flying through the entire engagement. Her identity was never in doubt.
The Jewish insurgency leading up to Israel's establishment cannot be separated from Israeli history - especially when Menachem Begin both ordered the King David Hotel bombing and later became the Prime Minister of Israel. It's blindingly obvious that:
1. Israel was established by and for terrorists.
2. The Jewish people in Israel are complicit in this terrorism by electing terrorists to the position of Prime Minister.
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Postby Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft » Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:06 am

I personally disapprove of Trump recognising Jerusalem as Israel's capital because that would just spark more Israeli/Palestinian violence.

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Postby Baltenstein » Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:53 am

Vallermoore wrote:Whenever I hear about Palestinians they are either rioting or suffering. Have they ever created anything good at all? They are either victims or causing trouble.


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Postby Senegalboy » Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:27 am

This is just reckless behaviour and now the US has resigned as the negotiator of an Israeli-Palestinian peace

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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:39 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
A case of mistaken identity and an action by a terrorist group before the state of Israel even existed?

Oh yes, those both seem like clear war crimes we can lay at the door of those bastard Jews.


Question. How many passes does Israel get?


A lot. Remember, the Jews are the motor behind scientific advancement, medicine and the entertainment industry - while the Palestinians are.. not.
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Postby Senegalboy » Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:42 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Question. How many passes does Israel get?


A lot. Remember, the Jews are the motor behind scientific advancement, medicine and the entertainment industry - while the Palestinians are.. not.

How can an occupied people be like an unoccupied people

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Postby Absentius » Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:43 am

If he was to visit a neighbouring country, we would bring down his plane into one of our airports, shave his head on the red carpet and march him around the capital with special guest invitations to ABC, CNN and all other fake news broadcasters worldwide.
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Postby Wysten » Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:44 am

The Confederacy of Nationalism wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
A case of mistaken identity and an action by a terrorist group before the state of Israel even existed?

Oh yes, those both seem like clear war crimes we can lay at the door of those bastard Jews.

The Liberty's colors were flying through the entire engagement. Her identity was never in doubt.
The Jewish insurgency leading up to Israel's establishment cannot be separated from Israeli history - especially when Menachem Begin both ordered the King David Hotel bombing and later became the Prime Minister of Israel. It's blindingly obvious that:
1. Israel was established by and for terrorists.
2. The Jewish people in Israel are complicit in this terrorism by electing terrorists to the position of Prime Minister.

"electing terrorists to the position of prime minister" Are we talking about Palestine now?
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Postby Nancivania » Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:51 am

Absentius wrote:If he was to visit a neighbouring country, we would bring down his plane into one of our airports, shave his head on the red carpet and march him around the capital with special guest invitations to ABC, CNN and all other fake news broadcasters worldwide.

"Trump did something we don't like, so we're going to detain him, forcibly shave him, and publically humiliate him in front of the entire world's media"

Seems a bit overkill in my opinion, since all he did was state that Israel's capital... Is Israel's capital...
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Postby Nancivania » Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:53 am

Wysten wrote:
The Confederacy of Nationalism wrote:The Liberty's colors were flying through the entire engagement. Her identity was never in doubt.
The Jewish insurgency leading up to Israel's establishment cannot be separated from Israeli history - especially when Menachem Begin both ordered the King David Hotel bombing and later became the Prime Minister of Israel. It's blindingly obvious that:
1. Israel was established by and for terrorists.
2. The Jewish people in Israel are complicit in this terrorism by electing terrorists to the position of Prime Minister.

"electing terrorists to the position of prime minister" Are we talking about Palestine now?

>Inironically complaining about radicals in the Israeli government as the Gaza Strip is literally ran by a semi-government terrorist group that kills civilians in both Israel and Palestine
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:54 am

Nancivania wrote:
Absentius wrote:If he was to visit a neighbouring country, we would bring down his plane into one of our airports, shave his head on the red carpet and march him around the capital with special guest invitations to ABC, CNN and all other fake news broadcasters worldwide.

"Trump did something we don't like, so we're going to detain him, forcibly shave him, and publically humiliate him in front of the entire world's media"

Seems a bit overkill in my opinion, since all he did was state that Israel's capital... Is Israel's capital...

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Postby Wysten » Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:55 am

Absentius wrote:If he was to visit a neighbouring country, we would bring down his plane into one of our airports, shave his head on the red carpet and march him around the capital with special guest invitations to ABC, CNN and all other fake news broadcasters worldwide.

WW3 when?
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