Trump just recognized Jerusalem as Israel's Capital

[Wysten]

So a strike against some poor farmer in Kabul is now Trump's fault?

No, but it will alleniate many muslim citizens in Western countries. They will be vulnarable to further radicalisation.

So a farmer getting killed in Kabul by Taliban is now going to alienate Muslims? Might want to change word choice.

[Soviet-mongol]

No, but it will alleniate many muslim citizens in Western countries. They will be vulnarable to further radicalisation.

So a farmer getting killed in Kabul by Taliban is now going to alienate Muslims? Might want to change word choice.

What does this have to do with anything I said? I am speaking about the West not Afganistan.

[Kramania]

So a strike against some poor farmer in Kabul is now Trump's fault?

No, but it will alleniate many muslim citizens in Western countries. They will be vulnarable to further radicalisation.

So the poor Muslims can't help but become radicalized because Trump chose to acknowledge reality?

[Aureumterra]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/06/world/middleeast/trump-jerusalem-israel-capital.html
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-jerusalem-israel-capital-turkey-organization-islamic-cooperation/

Yup. Trump did it. The madman did it. He's caused another unnecessary crisis, just like Yemen and Qatar.
Yes I am aware of the argument for doing it, but this will cause another diplomatic crisis even if they stay our allies, it will strain ties further.
I personally think one of 4 things will happen:

1: Diplomatic crisis that makes USA be seen as enemy of Islam by many people but still an ally of many Muslim governments.(Most likely)
2: Cause a holy war(Extremely unlikely but possible if things get bad enough. Not impossible, but quite implausible.).
3: Many Muslim states cut off all ties with USA(Still pretty unlikely but more likely than the Holy War.)
4: Some Muslim states limit access to oil and use that as leverage(Unsure of this, it is a major Saud money-maker and they may be quite hesitant to do it, but it's not impossible realistically. Could still happen. Slightly but not much more likely than the Holy War.)
Either way, this is going to cause issue with the Israel-Palestinian peace process, in my personal opinion and result in another unneeded crisis, even if you support Israel strongly, you gotta agree this is another headache not worth creating.
To me he f*cked up, I’d have said this of any President, whether I liked Muslims or not this is strategically a poor move.

These are obviously biased sources, and clearly, this guy hates Trump.
Check out the other side
FOX News
One America News

[Wysten]

So a farmer getting killed in Kabul by Taliban is now going to alienate Muslims? Might want to change word choice.

What does this have to do with anything I said? I am speaking about the West not Afganistan.

You said elsewhere elsewhere is the rest of the planet in this case next time say the west.

[Yeffin]

I see no problem with this. North Korea says their capital is Pyongyang. The world accepts this as a fact. Jerusalem is no different.
I will will continue to support Israel and Trump just as I have been against a Palestinian controlled Jerusalem.

[United Blue Capitalist]

I have a way more important question. Who. The Hell. Cares??? like fr, are we in that much of a sensitive time where moving an embacy to a more popular city is a damn world crisis? Fuck outta here with that stupid shit. "Wahhhhh he moved an embacy wahhhhhhhhhh" get your boohoo ass outta my face...

[Aureumterra]

I have a way more important question. Who. The Hell. Cares??? like fr, are we in that much of a sensitive time where moving an embacy to a more popular city is a damn world crisis? Fuck outta here with that stupid shit. “Wahhhhh he moved an embacy wahhhhhhhhhh" get your boohoo ass outta my face...

If you do not fully understand the severity of this, please refrain from posting.

[Bombadil]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/06/world/middleeast/trump-jerusalem-israel-capital.html
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-jerusalem-israel-capital-turkey-organization-islamic-cooperation/

Yup. Trump did it. The madman did it. He's caused another unnecessary crisis, just like Yemen and Qatar.
Yes I am aware of the argument for doing it, but this will cause another diplomatic crisis even if they stay our allies, it will strain ties further.
I personally think one of 4 things will happen:

1: Diplomatic crisis that makes USA be seen as enemy of Islam by many people but still an ally of many Muslim governments.(Most likely)
2: Cause a holy war(Extremely unlikely but possible if things get bad enough. Not impossible, but quite implausible.).
3: Many Muslim states cut off all ties with USA(Still pretty unlikely but more likely than the Holy War.)
4: Some Muslim states limit access to oil and use that as leverage(Unsure of this, it is a major Saud money-maker and they may be quite hesitant to do it, but it's not impossible realistically. Could still happen. Slightly but not much more likely than the Holy War.)
Either way, this is going to cause issue with the Israel-Palestinian peace process, in my personal opinion and result in another unneeded crisis, even if you support Israel strongly, you gotta agree this is another headache not worth creating.
To me he f*cked up, I’d have said this of any President, whether I liked Muslims or not this is strategically a poor move.

These are obviously biased sources, and clearly, this guy hates Trump.
Check out the other side
FOX News
One America News

Neither of those are exactly glowing approvals, and both note the likely reaction of violence to the announcement, the FOX report ends by noting Kushner's peace talks aren't exactly going anywhere.

But I did love this comment..

If anyone would bother to read chapter 16. Most Arabs are the sons of Ishmael and they cannot be tamed. Anyone who knows this and believes it as I do, is exasperated with the constant attempts to make peace with them. It is not possible, it is foretold by the Lord and we see the truth of it everyday.

See, God predicted all this so diplomacy is pointless..

[The Portland Territory]

1. I don't get the outrage? Isn't Jeruslam Israel capital?

2.Why is this not in the Trump thread?

1) Because Jerusalem is occupied territory and not recognized as part of Israel by international law.

I presume the Alt Right will now circumcise themselves and convert to Judaism in honor of "based Donald" and the "based Jews".

Nope. Most NatSocs and the "Alt-Right" on RWA and /pol/ are against the move.

[Bombadil]

Neither of those are exactly glowing approvals, and both note the likely reaction of violence to the announcement, the FOX report ends by noting Kushner's peace talks aren't exactly going anywhere.

But I did love this comment..

If anyone would bother to read chapter 16. Most Arabs are the sons of Ishmael and they cannot be tamed. Anyone who knows this and believes it as I do, is exasperated with the constant attempts to make peace with them. It is not possible, it is foretold by the Lord and we see the truth of it everyday.

See, God predicted all this so diplomacy is pointless..

Are you joking about liking that comment?
That sounds pretty Racist to me.

I 'love' it for its ridiculousness.. but any reading of the OT should make one realise that God is, indeed, pretty racist.

[Longweather]

The next time if a terrorist attack happens somewhere in London or elsewhere, people should remember who fueled it.

Muslim leaders riling up people?

[Aureumterra]

What president Trump did was strengthen relations with our key allies. It might cause violence, yes, and I highly oppose this violence, but this shows that America actually cares about it’s allies.

[New Mecedonian]

Since Jerusalem was the historical capital of Israel I do not what the problem is. Also the Israelites had a claim on that land centuries before Muhammad was born.

[United Blue Capitalist]

guarantee y'all that nothing happens out of this. we keep going back to our 10$ an hour job while shoveling big macs. idk what's the "applications" of moving a damned building butttttttt i dont really care either. #SnowflakesMELT

[The Portland Territory]

Nope. Most NatSocs and the "Alt-Right" on RWA and /pol/ are against the move.

You would know(Not insulting, just saying you are openly alt-right/natsoc/fascist last time I checked, not political nicknaming you), so, this is great, I get to watch this and eat my popcorn.

I prefer the term "Reactionary"

*snaps fingers*

[Aureumterra]

guarantee y'all that nothing happens out of this. we keep going back to our 10$ an hour job while shoveling big macs. idk what's the "applications" of moving a damned building butttttttt i dont really care either. #SnowflakesMELT

I request a mod to take a look at this guy.

[The Portland Territory]

What president Trump did was strengthen relations with our key allies. It might cause violence, yes, and I highly oppose this violence, but this shows that America actually cares about it’s allies.

> allies
> Israel

keek

[Grand Britannia]

What president Trump did was strengthen relations with our key allies. It might cause violence, yes, and I highly oppose this violence, but this shows that America actually cares about it’s allies.

> allies
> Israel

keek

Israel is America's petite, manipulative gf no bully.

[Aureumterra]

> allies
> Israel

keek

Israel is America’s petite, manipulative gf no bully.

Well said

[VoVoDoCo]

What president Trump did was strengthen relations with our key allies. It might cause violence, yes, and I highly oppose this violence, but this shows that America actually cares about it’s allies.

Good to know he cares about his allies.

Also good to know that he has gone out of his way to hurt and insult allies like Mexico, Iran, Australia, the UK, Germany, France, and China.

But he draws the line at Israel... because... Muslims?

[The Portland Territory]

> allies
> Israel

keek

Israel is America's petite, manipulative gf no bully.

Yknow, you honestly aint wrong.

[Nakena]

1. I don't get the outrage? Isn't Jeruslam Israel capital?

2.Why is this not in the Trump thread?

1) Because Jerusalem is occupied territory and not recognized as part of Israel by international law.

I presume the Alt Right will now circumcise themselves and convert to Judaism in honor of "based Donald" and the "based Jews".

Wrong. Ever since the strike on Syria things were not anymore what they used to be, especially amongst the hardline NatSoc part of the movement.

[Aureumterra]

What president Trump did was strengthen relations with our key allies. It might cause violence, yes, and I highly oppose this violence, but this shows that America actually cares about it’s allies.

Good to know he cares about his allies.

Also good to know that he has gone out of his way to hurt and insult allies like Mexico, Iran, Australia, the UK, Germany, France, and China.

But he draws the line at Israel... because... Muslims?

Iran? China? They're not allies.
He never insulted Mexico, just said he’ll keep the illegals out
The rest are cherry-picked conversations by leftist huffington post, they never mentioned the other coneversations and good agreements with these nations.

[VoVoDoCo]

Good to know he cares about his allies.

Also good to know that he has gone out of his way to hurt and insult allies like Mexico, Iran, Australia, the UK, Germany, France, and China.

But he draws the line at Israel... because... Muslims?

Iran? China? They're not allies.
He never insulted Mexico, just said he’ll keep the illegals out
The rest are cherry-picked conversations by leftist huffington post, they never mentioned the other coneversations and good agreements with these nations.

Iran: Key to fighting ISIS.
China: Key, according to your president, to dealing with North Korea. Also huge trade partner. Hesitant allies at best, but it's not far fetched to call them allies.
Mexico: Fair enough. He threatened to send the military to deal with their drug dealers. That is not technically an insult.
"Leftist Huffington Post": That is called the Genetic Fallacy. It's not valid.