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Postby Summertimequestionswine » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:50 pm

This Major Wildfire seems like quite the disagreeable chap. >:(

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Postby Reploid Productions » Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:23 pm

Summertimequestionswine wrote:This Major Wildfire seems like quite the disagreeable chap. >:(

Bad-tempered too. Prone to explosive outbursts and unpredictable hotheatedness. Goes off on flaming rampages when set off, and just shrugs off the banhammer like its nothin'. :(
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:47 pm

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Summertimequestionswine wrote:This Major Wildfire seems like quite the disagreeable chap. >:(

Bad-tempered too. Prone to explosive outbursts and unpredictable hotheatedness. Goes off on flaming rampages when set off, and just shrugs off the banhammer like its nothin'. :(

Sounds like this fire is acts like some people in Congress
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Reploid Productions wrote:Bad-tempered too. Prone to explosive outbursts and unpredictable hotheatedness. Goes off on flaming rampages when set off, and just shrugs off the banhammer like its nothin'. :(

Sounds like this fire is acts like some people in Congress

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Postby Xmara » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:28 pm

This is why I was not thrilled when my cousin announced that he was moving to Sacramento a few years ago.

Granted, this is all happening in SoCal but earlier this year there was a wildfire that happened very close to where he lives and his house experienced smoke damage.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:29 pm

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Postby Corrian » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:41 pm

Xmara wrote:This is why I was not thrilled when my cousin announced that he was moving to Sacramento a few years ago.

Granted, this is all happening in SoCal but earlier this year there was a wildfire that happened very close to where he lives and his house experienced smoke damage.

Sacramento area itself isn't usually that close to fires, though. You have to go in the hills for any major fire problems, and then you're not in Sacramento or its metropolitan area.
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Postby Xmara » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:55 pm

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Xmara wrote:This is why I was not thrilled when my cousin announced that he was moving to Sacramento a few years ago.

Granted, this is all happening in SoCal but earlier this year there was a wildfire that happened very close to where he lives and his house experienced smoke damage.

Sacramento area itself isn't usually that close to fires, though. You have to go in the hills for any major fire problems, and then you're not in Sacramento or its metropolitan area.


Okay good. I don’t know much about California.
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Postby Corrian » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:58 pm

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Corrian wrote:Sacramento area itself isn't usually that close to fires, though. You have to go in the hills for any major fire problems, and then you're not in Sacramento or its metropolitan area.


Okay good. I don’t know much about California.

I dunno why, but the valley itself doesn't usually burn. Hills to the west and the east do, though. I've never heard a story of a massive fire threatening Sacramento. But there is almost always one outside of LA. Seen one in person actually.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:19 pm

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Corrian wrote:Sacramento area itself isn't usually that close to fires, though. You have to go in the hills for any major fire problems, and then you're not in Sacramento or its metropolitan area.


Okay good. I don’t know much about California.

The main fire danger zones are up in the mountains and the canyons, particularly rural or suburban areas bordering on wilderness. We get a perfect cocktail of steep/inaccessible terrain, low humidity, and extremely high winds (especially in and at the foot of the canyons) that can turn an errant spark into one of these monster wildfires. Conditions up around Sacremento don't tend to get to the same level of dryness as down here in SoCal, and the terrain is much flatter and much more accessible than it is in SoCal, or in the areas of NorCal that got so badly burned in October.

Also, peak fire season is not during the heat of summer, contrary to popular perception. The peak fire danger is actually in the fall, once all the vegetation has dried out from summer. That's when we really tend to get the really bad Santa Ana winds that just suck all the moisture out of everything and can fan the flames of a fire into these insanely fast-moving blazes. For instance, the last time I had to evacuate from a fire, we were clocking sustained 40-50mph winds, with gusts over 80mph. You get that kind of wind force driving a fire, and that's the dangerous part.
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Postby Nouveau Yathrib » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:37 pm

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Okay good. I don’t know much about California.

I dunno why, but the valley itself doesn't usually burn. Hills to the west and the east do, though. I've never heard a story of a massive fire threatening Sacramento. But there is almost always one outside of LA. Seen one in person actually.


The Central Valley has been mostly converted to agriculture, pasture, and built-up areas so there isn't much left there to burn.
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Postby Corrian » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:46 pm

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Corrian wrote:I dunno why, but the valley itself doesn't usually burn. Hills to the west and the east do, though. I've never heard a story of a massive fire threatening Sacramento. But there is almost always one outside of LA. Seen one in person actually.


The Central Valley has been mostly converted to agriculture, pasture, and built-up areas so there isn't much left there to burn.

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Postby Morgantown West Virginia » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:13 pm

Thomas Fire is now at 90,000 acres, still, 0% containment, scared of rapid growth due to Santa Ana winds picking up tonight.
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Postby Greed and Death » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:12 pm

California needs to be declared a permanent dead zone. Just spread the population out among the south east and Midwest. Though don't let them vote until they are acculturated after a generation or two.
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Greed and Death wrote:California needs to be declared a permanent dead zone. Just spread the population out among the south east and Midwest. Though don't let them vote until they are acculturated after a generation or two.

I mean this in the nicest possible way dude, but fuck that noise. Fuck that noise with a red-hot rusty tire iron the wide way. :P I'll still take the occasional wildfire over entire seasons of spinning doom clouds or that cold wet white shit that falls from the sky.
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Greed and Death wrote:California needs to be declared a permanent dead zone. Just spread the population out among the south east and Midwest. Though don't let them vote until they are acculturated after a generation or two.

I mean this in the nicest possible way dude, but fuck that noise. Fuck that noise with a red-hot rusty tire iron the wide way. :P I'll still take the occasional wildfire over entire seasons of spinning doom clouds or that cold wet white shit that falls from the sky.

But you get a gun. I think the tornado will go away if you shoot at it.
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Okay good. I don’t know much about California.

I dunno why, but the valley itself doesn't usually burn. Hills to the west and the east do, though. I've never heard a story of a massive fire threatening Sacramento. But there is almost always one outside of LA. Seen one in person actually.

As someone who was stationed as a firefighter near Oroville, the Sacramento Valley is a tinderbox, with multiple fires breaking out daily in the summer. The terrain isn't harsh though, and we were able to pounce on them pretty quick to ensure they didn't grow to become massive.
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Postby Sovaal » Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:42 am

I think mother nature has a grudge or something against Cali.

And climate change isn't going to help.
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Postby Corrian » Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:48 am

Sovaal wrote:I think mother nature has a grudge or something against Cali.

And climate change isn't going to help.

The fact it is burning is proof climate change isn't helping.

[quote="Kanadorika";p="33039639"As someone who was stationed as a firefighter near Oroville, the Sacramento Valley is a tinderbox, with multiple fires breaking out daily in the summer. The terrain isn't harsh though, and we were able to pounce on them pretty quick to ensure they didn't grow to become massive.[/quote]
Is that all it is? Because I've just never heard of "Massive fire threatens Sacramento area"

And I do know fires happen a fair amount. I've seen them there. Just never anything big.
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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:16 pm

Kanadorika wrote:
Corrian wrote:I dunno why, but the valley itself doesn't usually burn. Hills to the west and the east do, though. I've never heard a story of a massive fire threatening Sacramento. But there is almost always one outside of LA. Seen one in person actually.

As someone who was stationed as a firefighter near Oroville, the Sacramento Valley is a tinderbox, with multiple fires breaking out daily in the summer. The terrain isn't harsh though, and we were able to pounce on them pretty quick to ensure they didn't grow to become massive.


Stay safe fighting those fires, mate.

And I heard the Central Valley wasn't really prone to fires. Guess I was incorrect.

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Postby Reploid Productions » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:04 pm

Corrian wrote:And I do know fires happen a fair amount. I've seen them there. Just never anything big.

Probably because like Kanadorika said, it's easy for crews to get in there to contain and put out the fires before they can get away from crews and turn into something big. Terrain plays a huge role in how easy/difficult a fire is to contain- the easier it is to get crews and gear to it, the faster it can get knocked down and the less likely it is to blow up. Once it blows up, fighting it starts to resemble a military deployment in terms of manpower, sheer scope, and tactical considerations.
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http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/ram ... story.html

Because what SoCal needed was a brand new fire. We’ve been having a wind advisory notice all day (which was so severe that they had to make a new color for the warning system), for the Santa Ana winds, and well. There’s a reason we consider “Santa Ana winds” equivalent to “fire season.”

This new fire is, uh, really quite alarmingly close to home for me. My part of the area doesn’t have evacuation warnings yet, but it’s concerning. I really, REALLY hope this doesn’t into the 2017 version of the Witch Creek fires.
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Essu Beti wrote:http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/ramona-sentinel/news/local-news/sd-cm-ram-lilac-fire-thursday-afternoon-20171207-story.html

Because what SoCal needed was a brand new fire. We’ve been having a wind advisory notice all day (which was so severe that they had to make a new color for the warning system), for the Santa Ana winds, and well. There’s a reason we consider “Santa Ana winds” equivalent to “fire season.”

This new fire is, uh, really quite alarmingly close to home for me. My part of the area doesn’t have evacuation warnings yet, but it’s concerning. I really, REALLY hope this doesn’t into the 2017 version of the Witch Creek fires.

Bloody hell. Stay safe man, and if it's alarmingly close, start organizing and packing your bug-out bag now so if it does turn into Witch Creek Redux you're ready to load up and GTFO!
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Postby Empire of Narnia » Fri Dec 08, 2017 1:15 am


That looks like something out of an alien invasion movie. My thoughts and prayers are with those affected by the fires.

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