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Postby Katzenstaat » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:21 pm

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Katzenstaat wrote:So?

Soft power vs hard power. Borat has more destructive capabilities than a thousand high payload warheads.

Stop trolling.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:21 pm

Bakery Hill wrote:It's interesting the way you're presenting this and the last topic, as if these long running issues of racism are just popping up on to your radar. They're as old as the hills in America and they're everywhere. How would you go about fixing this problem OP?

Maybe have training in the police department on not being racist and treating everyone equally under the law and not making assumptions based on someone's race.

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Postby Kramania » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:22 pm

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Kramania wrote:Oh, it's the "you can only be far left if you literally want to gouge the eyes out of the rich and play ping pong with them" spiel again.

If your ideology boils down to "umm maybe we should shop at more black businesses???? #yassqueen" I don't regard you as far left.

Just because their average article is "10 Pictures of Trans-dimensional Nonbinary Beings Using Zer Power to Shatter Gender Norms" doesn't mean they aren't far left.
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Postby Kramania » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:23 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Kramania wrote:I said far left, not radical left.

Are you accusing the media outlet of making up this story?

Yes.
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Postby The Widening Gyre » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:24 pm

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Alliance of Free Planets wrote:Yes, or else it wouldn’t be radical left. Buzzfeed is by no means a far left news outlet. It’s just garbage American college liberalism mush, with a garnish of feminism.

I said far left, not radical left.


Playing the 'guess the synonym' game is just making you look foolish at being called on your generalization by actual leftists.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:24 pm

Kramania wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Are you accusing the media outlet of making up this story?

Yes.

well thats a heck of a long article to simply make up. What would they stand to gain from fabricating it?

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Postby Alliance of Free Planets » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:25 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:It's interesting the way you're presenting this and the last topic, as if these long running issues of racism are just popping up on to your radar. They're as old as the hills in America and they're everywhere. How would you go about fixing this problem OP?

Maybe have training in the police department on not being racist and treating everyone equally under the law and not making assumptions based on someone's race.

Racism is not tolerated in American society as seen by the numerous people who have lost their jobs for saying the “N-word”, so it’s not a societal problem. Everyone is equal under the law as the constitution and its amendments safe guard this for citizens. The last one is very thought police-y, but I do agree that people should identify initial racial prejudice and try to push through it.
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Postby Katzenstaat » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:26 pm

Compared to a global genocide this is tame.
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Postby Kramania » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:26 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Kramania wrote:Yes.

well thats a heck of a long article to simply make up. What would they stand to gain from fabricating it?

Views.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:27 pm

Katzenstaat wrote:Compared to a global genocide this is tame.

Global genocide? What in the world are you talking about?

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Postby The Widening Gyre » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:27 pm

Alliance of Free Planets wrote:Racism is not tolerated in American society as seen by the numerous people who have lost their jobs for saying the “N-word”, so it’s not a societal problem.


'We can't say nigger any more so racism is over!'

That's the litmus test you want to go with? You sure?

Alliance of Free Planets wrote:Everyone is equal under the law as the constitution and its amendments safe guard this for citizens. The last one is very thought police-y, but I do agree that people should identify initial racial prejudice and try to push through it.


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Postby San Lumen » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:27 pm

Kramania wrote:
San Lumen wrote:well thats a heck of a long article to simply make up. What would they stand to gain from fabricating it?

Views.

yeah ok. I guess they have nothing better to do than make up a story about a city I doubt many on this board have even heard of before.

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Postby Kramania » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:28 pm

The Widening Gyre wrote:
Kramania wrote:I said far left, not radical left.


Playing the 'guess the synonym' game is just making you look foolish at being called on your generalization by actual leftists.

I wasn't generalizing all leftists.

Just BuzzFeed.
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Postby Kramania » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:28 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Kramania wrote:Views.

yeah ok. I guess they have nothing better to do than make up a story about a city I doubt many on this board have even heard of before.

Hey, they pushed the Trump dossier story around and that turned out to be bullshit.
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Postby Kramania » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:30 pm

The Widening Gyre wrote:
Alliance of Free Planets wrote:Racism is not tolerated in American society as seen by the numerous people who have lost their jobs for saying the “N-word”, so it’s not a societal problem.


'We can't say nigger any more so racism is over!'

That's the litmus test you want to go with? You sure?

Alliance of Free Planets wrote:Everyone is equal under the law as the constitution and its amendments safe guard this for citizens. The last one is very thought police-y, but I do agree that people should identify initial racial prejudice and try to push through it.


The Three-Fifths Compromise says hi.

The Three-Fifths Compromise is no longer in effect.

That's a real shitty example to cart out if you're talking about racism in modern American society.

Just saying.
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Postby Katzenstaat » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:30 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Katzenstaat wrote:Compared to a global genocide this is tame.

Global genocide? What in the world are you talking about?

This is what will happen within 50 years.

Here is why.

1. Genocides will be cheap to commit due to AI, nanotechnology, ethnic biological weapons and robots.
2. Genocides are profitable.
3. Any action that is profitable and sufficiently feasible can be controlled but not be completely prevented by either laws or morality.
4. Hence genocides will be commited.
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Postby Bakery Hill » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:30 pm

Katzenstaat wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:Soft power vs hard power. Borat has more destructive capabilities than a thousand high payload warheads.

Stop trolling.

I'm not trolling?
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:30 pm

Kramania wrote:
San Lumen wrote:yeah ok. I guess they have nothing better to do than make up a story about a city I doubt many on this board have even heard of before.

Hey, they pushed the Trump dossier story around and that turned out to be bullshit.

Yeah some people on the staff decided lets pick a random city and make up a story about it because we have nothing better to do. What a great argument there.

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Postby Nouveau Yathrib » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:31 pm

Alliance of Free Planets wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Maybe have training in the police department on not being racist and treating everyone equally under the law and not making assumptions based on someone's race.

Racism is not tolerated in American society as seen by the numerous people who have lost their jobs for saying the “N-word”, so it’s not a societal problem. Everyone is equal under the law as the constitution and its amendments safe guard this for citizens. The last one is very thought police-y, but I do agree that people should identify initial racial prejudice and try to push through it.


Legal equality doesn't mean racial prejudice doesn't exist. OP I agree that residential segregation is still a problem in the US, but you aren't helping your side by posting stories from questionable news sources.
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Postby Bakery Hill » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:32 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:It's interesting the way you're presenting this and the last topic, as if these long running issues of racism are just popping up on to your radar. They're as old as the hills in America and they're everywhere. How would you go about fixing this problem OP?

Maybe have training in the police department on not being racist and treating everyone equally under the law and not making assumptions based on someone's race.

Yeah that's not going to do shit. People already know racism is considered unacceptable. How is that going to change anything?
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Postby Kramania » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:33 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Kramania wrote:Hey, they pushed the Trump dossier story around and that turned out to be bullshit.

Yeah some people on the staff decided lets pick a random city and make up a story about it because we have nothing better to do. What a great argument there.

Not my fault the article is shit.
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Postby Kramania » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:34 pm

Katzenstaat wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Global genocide? What in the world are you talking about?

This is what will happen within 50 years.

Here is why.

1. Genocides will be cheap to commit due to AI, nanotechnology, ethnic biological weapons and robots.
2. Genocides are profitable.
3. Any action that is profitable and sufficiently feasible can be controlled but not be completely prevented by either laws or morality.
4. Hence genocides will be commited.

Who is going to commit those genocide and why?
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Postby The Widening Gyre » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:36 pm

Kramania wrote:
The Widening Gyre wrote:
Playing the 'guess the synonym' game is just making you look foolish at being called on your generalization by actual leftists.

I wasn't generalizing all leftists.

Just BuzzFeed.


You called Buzzfeed a 'far left' outlet. It's not, by any stretch of the imagination.There's a whole ecosystem of actual far left papers and magazines and websites out there that make Buzzfeed look like the second coming of Goldwater.

Kramania wrote:The Three-Fifths Compromise is no longer in effect.


Yep. Went through a war and a series of amendments to get there. Which is why appealing to the Constitution as a founding document for equality is silly.

Kramania wrote:That's a real shitty example to cart out if you're talking about racism in modern American society.

Just saying.


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Postby Alliance of Free Planets » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:37 pm

The Widening Gyre wrote:
Alliance of Free Planets wrote:Racism is not tolerated in American society as seen by the numerous people who have lost their jobs for saying the “N-word”, so it’s not a societal problem.


'We can't say nigger any more so racism is over!'

That's the litmus test you want to go with? You sure?

Alliance of Free Planets wrote:Everyone is equal under the law as the constitution and its amendments safe guard this for citizens. The last one is very thought police-y, but I do agree that people should identify initial racial prejudice and try to push through it.


The Three-Fifths Compromise says hi.


In no way is racism found acceptable in American society, considering how Charolettesville went down. No one outside of Neo Nazis and bitter racists thought the rally was a good thing, and Neo Nazis themselves were targeted on social media because they showed their face. You cannot go up to POC and degrade them anymore without facing serious consequences.

I don’t see what a compromise that was struck down BY a constitutional amendment after the civil war devalidates the point that the constitution is there to protect American people. If anything, it shows how the constitution was able to evolve to safeguard the rights of MORE people. Maybe I’m missing the point, please explain!
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Postby Katzenstaat » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:37 pm

Kramania wrote:
Katzenstaat wrote:This is what will happen within 50 years.

Here is why.

1. Genocides will be cheap to commit due to AI, nanotechnology, ethnic biological weapons and robots.
2. Genocides are profitable.
3. Any action that is profitable and sufficiently feasible can be controlled but not be completely prevented by either laws or morality.
4. Hence genocides will be commited.

Who is going to commit those genocide and why?

Many people will probably attempt to commit genocides. For example it may start from some Islamist idiot unleashing nukes or biological weapons on Israel for religious reasons. Then Israel will react by Samson Option and humanity is fucked.

There are also practical reasons why some people may commit genocides. Genocides eliminate competition and increase the amount of resources a race or ethnic group controls.
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