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Katzenstaat
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Postby Katzenstaat » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:48 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:You do know that this is extremely similar to the Nazi idea that Ayrans are at the top due to some vague, highly suspect, and pseudoscientific reasoning while everyone else is at the bottom


But white people are the best, we have red headed ladies.

Ashkenazis are white.
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Soldati Senza Confini
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:48 am

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Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Your second and last lines of reasoning are moral views. :)

I will cut off our discussion here because it is bordering on threadjack already. But like I said, you were just going to rationalize and justify your view as right even if I happen to be right, and I wasn't wrong. I'll leave you to reflect on what we discussed, because I just boxed you on your own set of views.

That's not a moral view. Instead it is a pragmatic one. The problem with omnicides is that nobody knows when it will end.


No, you're dressing your moral view as a pragmatic one. Your position about omnicide is also a moral view.

Morality is what you or a society finds right and wrong, that's it. The reasoning is just meant to justify our moral views, but it doesn't mean you don't have a morality, it just means you think about your moral choices. Amoral would be that you don't care about whether or not Ghanans get wiped out the face of the planet. Your rationalization as to why genocide was wrong when I brought it up is telling.
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Liriena
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Postby Liriena » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:52 am

Stojam wrote:
Katzenstaat wrote:Because race realism is real. Israel is awesome because of Jews. Japan is awesome because of Japanese people. Period.

At the very least RR should be the null hypothesis.


As an Israeli, I don't believe it's just because of the Jews and it's about all the awesome people we got here, not just Jews.

Also, automatically assuming that it all boils down to some sort of timeless and natural "racial essence" is a gross, dishonest oversimplification or just plain intellectual laziness. Japan and Israel are the way they are for a wide variety of reasons, which could be said to go back centuries. There are cultural, historical and economic factors at play, many of which are external to the people actually living in both countries. Japan would not be what it is today if Commodore Perry hadn't barged his way in back in 1853, for instance.
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Thermodolia
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:53 am

Katzenstaat wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:You do know that this is extremely similar to the Nazi idea that Ayrans are at the top due to some vague, highly suspect, and pseudoscientific reasoning while everyone else is at the bottom

Nazis banned IQ tests because Jews did so well. Hence antisemitism is absurd while HBD is factual.

Right....

And Abraham Lincoln was actually a ham!!
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Liriena
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Postby Liriena » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:53 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:You do know that this is extremely similar to the Nazi idea that Ayrans are at the top due to some vague, highly suspect, and pseudoscientific reasoning while everyone else is at the bottom


But white people are the best, we have red headed ladies.

But we don't have Idris Elba or Hayao Miyazaki. :/
be gay do crime


I am:
A pansexual, pantheist, green socialist
An aspiring writer and journalist
Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
cynicism


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Thermodolia
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:54 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:You do know that this is extremely similar to the Nazi idea that Ayrans are at the top due to some vague, highly suspect, and pseudoscientific reasoning while everyone else is at the bottom


But white people are the best, we have red headed ladies.

Eh. Brunettes are better
Male, Jewish, lives somewhere in AZ, Disabled US Military Veteran, Oorah!, I'm GAY!
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>The Sons of Adam: I'd crown myself monarch... cuz why not?
>>Dumb Ideologies: Why not turn yourself into a penguin and build an igloo at the centre of the Earth?
Click for Da Funies

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Soldati Senza Confini
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:54 am

Liriena wrote:
Stojam wrote:
As an Israeli, I don't believe it's just because of the Jews and it's about all the awesome people we got here, not just Jews.

Also, automatically assuming that it all boils down to some sort of timeless and natural "racial essence" is a gross, dishonest oversimplification or just plain intellectual laziness. Japan and Israel are the way they are for a wide variety of reasons, which could be said to go back centuries. There are cultural, historical and economic factors at play, many of which are external to the people actually living in both countries. Japan would not be what it is today if Commodore Perry hadn't barged his way in back in 1853, for instance.


Well, nuking them to hell and back also played a role in it :p
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Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

"When it’s a choice of putting food on the table, or thinking about your morals, it’s easier to say you’d think about your morals, but only if you’ve never faced that decision." - Anastasia Richardson

Current Goal: Flesh out nation factbook.

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Thermodolia
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:55 am

Liriena wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
But white people are the best, we have red headed ladies.

But we don't have Idris Elba or Hayao Miyazaki. :/

Id seriously do anything for Idris Elba
Male, Jewish, lives somewhere in AZ, Disabled US Military Veteran, Oorah!, I'm GAY!
I'm agent #69 in the Gaystapo!
>The Sons of Adam: I'd crown myself monarch... cuz why not?
>>Dumb Ideologies: Why not turn yourself into a penguin and build an igloo at the centre of the Earth?
Click for Da Funies

RIP Dya

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Washington Resistance Army
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Founded: Aug 08, 2011
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:55 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
But white people are the best, we have red headed ladies.

Eh. Brunettes are better


I'll fight you Therm
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Liriena
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Postby Liriena » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:55 am

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Liriena wrote:Also, automatically assuming that it all boils down to some sort of timeless and natural "racial essence" is a gross, dishonest oversimplification or just plain intellectual laziness. Japan and Israel are the way they are for a wide variety of reasons, which could be said to go back centuries. There are cultural, historical and economic factors at play, many of which are external to the people actually living in both countries. Japan would not be what it is today if Commodore Perry hadn't barged his way in back in 1853, for instance.


Well, nuking them to hell and back also played a role in it :p

Sounds like Posadists had a point. :P
be gay do crime


I am:
A pansexual, pantheist, green socialist
An aspiring writer and journalist
Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
cynicism


⚧Copy and paste this in your sig
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gender and sex aren't the same thing.⚧

I disown most of my previous posts

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Liriena
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Postby Liriena » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:55 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Liriena wrote:But we don't have Idris Elba or Hayao Miyazaki. :/

Id seriously do anything for Idris Elba

ikr?
be gay do crime


I am:
A pansexual, pantheist, green socialist
An aspiring writer and journalist
Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
cynicism


⚧Copy and paste this in your sig
if you passed biology and know
gender and sex aren't the same thing.⚧

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Thermodolia
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Founded: Oct 07, 2011
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:56 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Eh. Brunettes are better


I'll fight you Therm

Not with your shity guns you won't :p
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>The Sons of Adam: I'd crown myself monarch... cuz why not?
>>Dumb Ideologies: Why not turn yourself into a penguin and build an igloo at the centre of the Earth?
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Washington Resistance Army
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:57 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I'll fight you Therm

Not with your shity guns you won't :p


>implying I don't also have an M16 w/ M203

You're done for kiddo
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Thermodolia
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:58 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Not with your shity guns you won't :p


>implying I don't also have an M16 w/ M203

You're done for kiddo

Who you calling kiddo? You're younger than I am
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I'm agent #69 in the Gaystapo!
>The Sons of Adam: I'd crown myself monarch... cuz why not?
>>Dumb Ideologies: Why not turn yourself into a penguin and build an igloo at the centre of the Earth?
Click for Da Funies

RIP Dya

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Washington Resistance Army
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:59 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
>implying I don't also have an M16 w/ M203

You're done for kiddo

Who you calling kiddo? You're younger than I am


Fake news
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Thermodolia
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Founded: Oct 07, 2011
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:01 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Who you calling kiddo? You're younger than I am


Fake news

Says the soviet sleeper spy. I'm on to you.
Male, Jewish, lives somewhere in AZ, Disabled US Military Veteran, Oorah!, I'm GAY!
I'm agent #69 in the Gaystapo!
>The Sons of Adam: I'd crown myself monarch... cuz why not?
>>Dumb Ideologies: Why not turn yourself into a penguin and build an igloo at the centre of the Earth?
Click for Da Funies

RIP Dya

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Topoliani
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Postby Topoliani » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:04 am

>Buzzfeed

There's your problem OP

Also, as a dark-skinned minority, I can confirm that this is bull (I'm not African, but I am still relatively dark)
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Stojam
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Founded: May 26, 2016
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Postby Stojam » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:06 am

Topoliani wrote:>Buzzfeed

There's your problem OP

Also, as a dark-skinned minority, I can confirm that this is bull (I'm not African, but I am still relatively dark)


>Greentext on a site that's not 4chan
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Topoliani
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Postby Topoliani » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:07 am

Stojam wrote:
Topoliani wrote:>Buzzfeed

There's your problem OP

Also, as a dark-skinned minority, I can confirm that this is bull (I'm not African, but I am still relatively dark)


>Greentext on a site that's not 4chan

I used a different green so it doesn't count
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Stojam
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Postby Stojam » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:08 am

Topoliani wrote:
Stojam wrote:
>Greentext on a site that's not 4chan

I used a different green so it doesn't count


Doesn't matter it's still green.
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Topoliani
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Postby Topoliani » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:08 am

Stojam wrote:
Topoliani wrote:I used a different green so it doesn't count


Doesn't matter it's still green.

no u
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Stojam
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Postby Stojam » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:09 am

Topoliani wrote:
Stojam wrote:
Doesn't matter it's still green.

no u

N o u
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Thermodolia
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:11 am

Stojam wrote:
Topoliani wrote:no u

N o u

All right cut it out
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Katzenstaat
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Postby Katzenstaat » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:24 am

Liriena wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
But white people are the best, we have red headed ladies.

But we don't have Idris Elba or Hayao Miyazaki. :/

Nobody needs Idris Elba.
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Ors Might
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Postby Ors Might » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:31 am

Katzenstaat wrote:
Liriena wrote:But we don't have Idris Elba or Hayao Miyazaki. :/

Nobody needs Idris Elba.

Speak for yourself mate ;)
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