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Am I Right?

Yeah, mostly, seems agreeable.
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22%
Dunno/Not sure/Not American and I think that matters
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6%
Nah, you're crazy. Guns should be more restricted.
187
26%
Nah, you're crazy. Guns should be less restricted.
287
40%
JC Christ CM come back when the meds wear off
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Postby Ors Might » Mon Dec 25, 2017 3:08 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:No. Why do you keep suggesting ridiculous things that make no legal sense? The Supreme Court already interprets the Constitution, there is no need for such a commission.


The Supreme court is politically biased. This commission would not be biased.

When several people of different political beliefs, economic backgrounds, and nationalities think your proposals are insane, do you think for a moment that you might be wrong?
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Mon Dec 25, 2017 3:25 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:No. Why do you keep suggesting ridiculous things that make no legal sense? The Supreme Court already interprets the Constitution, there is no need for such a commission.


The Supreme court is politically biased. This commission would not be biased.

Everyone's opinions are bias. I don't agree with your views which means I'm more likely to disregard what you say, even if you somehow say something I'd agree with. Biasness.
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Postby Herzegovenia » Mon Dec 25, 2017 3:30 pm

As many citzens has possible should recieve military training and own a firearm.
With very few exceptions, my nation has compulsory gun ownership.

So long has the populance is smart and well trained, this greatly decreases crime rates.
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Postby Telconi » Mon Dec 25, 2017 3:31 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:No. Why do you keep suggesting ridiculous things that make no legal sense? The Supreme Court already interprets the Constitution, there is no need for such a commission.


The Supreme court is politically biased. This commission would not be biased.


How foolish do you have to be to expect people to buy that?

"Commission assembled by known human rights hating bigot is not biased in any way"

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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Mon Dec 25, 2017 3:33 pm

Telconi wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
The Supreme court is politically biased. This commission would not be biased.


How foolish do you have to be to expect people to buy that?

"Commission assembled by known human rights hating bigot is not biased in any way"

:eyebrow:

Your to kind, Bigot is to friendly :p

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Postby Sovaal » Mon Dec 25, 2017 4:30 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:We need an independent commission that is made up of 1 democrat 1 republican 1 libertarian 1 green party 1 liberal independent and 1 conservative independent to rule on the 2nd amendment that must have a unanimous agreement on its interpretation. This is the fairest way. I hope we can all agree on this.

So the 2nd stays then. Alright, I’ll agreee with following the Constitution. But that means you do too Keshi.
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Dec 25, 2017 4:37 pm

Sovaal wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:We need an independent commission that is made up of 1 democrat 1 republican 1 libertarian 1 green party 1 liberal independent and 1 conservative independent to rule on the 2nd amendment that must have a unanimous agreement on its interpretation. This is the fairest way. I hope we can all agree on this.

So the 2nd stays then. Alright, I’ll agreee with following the Constitution. But that means you do too Keshi.

Nope. I smell some ulterior motive here. Judging by past examples of wanting to engage in underhandedness on their part, there is probably some ridiculous scheme in the works, whereby the "independent commission" would all miraculously agree that the 2nd Amendment applies to militias bearing arms only. It would probably involve the members of the commission all being secretly replaced with gun control advocates via face transplants or some ridiculous thing.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Mon Dec 25, 2017 4:43 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:We need an independent commission that is made up of 1 democrat 1 republican 1 libertarian 1 green party 1 liberal independent and 1 conservative independent to rule on the 2nd amendment that must have a unanimous agreement on its interpretation. This is the fairest way. I hope we can all agree on this.

Then your dream fails cause libertarians will never give up on rights and will cling to how things are done as of right now.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Mon Dec 25, 2017 4:53 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:We need an independent commission that is made up of 1 democrat 1 republican 1 libertarian 1 green party 1 liberal independent and 1 conservative independent to rule on the 2nd amendment that must have a unanimous agreement on its interpretation. This is the fairest way. I hope we can all agree on this.

The Greens and Libertarians never won a single seat at the federal level, why the fuck should they have a say in anything?
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Dec 25, 2017 4:56 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:We need an independent commission that is made up of 1 democrat 1 republican 1 libertarian 1 green party 1 liberal independent and 1 conservative independent to rule on the 2nd amendment that must have a unanimous agreement on its interpretation. This is the fairest way. I hope we can all agree on this.

The Greens and Libertarians never won a single seat at the federal level, why the fuck should they have a say in anything?

Exactly. Using this logic, why not source one of the commission members from the Communist Party USA as well(?)
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Postby Telconi » Mon Dec 25, 2017 5:09 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:The Greens and Libertarians never won a single seat at the federal level, why the fuck should they have a say in anything?

Exactly. Using this logic, why not source one of the commission members from the Communist Party USA as well(?)


Why should the CIA get a seat?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Dec 25, 2017 5:11 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:The Greens and Libertarians never won a single seat at the federal level, why the fuck should they have a say in anything?

Exactly. Using this logic, why not source one of the commission members from the Communist Party USA as well(?)


Shit we have all other sorts of parties too if we're gonna be all inclusive. What about the Constitution Party? American Nazi Party? Reform Party? Prohibition Party? We need it to unanimous after all.
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Postby Muengzhuo dynasty » Mon Dec 25, 2017 5:11 pm

Telconi wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Exactly. Using this logic, why not source one of the commission members from the Communist Party USA as well(?)


Why should the CIA get a seat?
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Postby Muengzhuo dynasty » Mon Dec 25, 2017 5:12 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Exactly. Using this logic, why not source one of the commission members from the Communist Party USA as well(?)


Shit we have all other sorts of parties too if we're gonna be all inclusive. What about the Constitution Party? American Nazi Party? Reform Party? Prohibition Party? We need it to unanimous after all.

Very true, awesome flag btw!
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Postby Bulls Bay » Mon Dec 25, 2017 5:13 pm

There should be mandatory drug tests for anyone that wants to buy a gun. There should also be a very thorough background check and if the owner has been jailed for a serious offense, they should not e able to buy a gun. People also need to remember that people kill people gun or not.

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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Dec 25, 2017 6:23 pm

Bulls Bay wrote:There should be mandatory drug tests for anyone that wants to buy a gun.

Why? For what purpose? So if a drugs test showed the person had THC in their system, which would indicate cannabis use, they would be barred from owning a gun? Doesn't that seem like a bit of an overreaction to something that is relatively benign? I really don't see the purpose of a drugs test in relation to gun ownership. If you are going to argue along the lines of "it impairs judgment", then you could say exactly the same for drinking alcohol. Hell, even some allergy meds can impair judgment...
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Postby Kernen » Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:39 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:No. Why do you keep suggesting ridiculous things that make no legal sense? The Supreme Court already interprets the Constitution, there is no need for such a commission.


The Supreme court is politically biased. This commission would not be biased.


Party representatives are biased. Judges are not. Swing and a miss, Keshi. Stop pretending you understand how the law works or why we do things the way we do.
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Postby Kernen » Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:42 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Sovaal wrote:A strategic win for the anti gunners tho!/s


It is a win because it was the Supreme court saying that we are going to let the states handle the gun issue. Las Vegas might have finally been the straw that broke the camels back!

If this was true, they would have written an opinion to that effect. Denial of certs mean that the court isn't willing to make a determination at that time, and nothing else.
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Postby Gun Manufacturers » Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:45 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Didn’t know that’s Mexico want a free country. Or that China and North Korea where free countries either. It’s almost as if that doesn’t really matter.


We are less free because we have allowed ourselves to become slaves of the gun. Seriously gun supporters would vote against making the cure to cancer free/legal if the opposition was pro gun


Pro gun people would vote against something because their opposition was pro gun? What the fuck are you on about?
Gun control is like trying to solve drunk driving by making it harder for sober people to own cars.

Any accident you can walk away from is one I can laugh at.

DOJ's interpretation of the 2nd Amendment: http://www.justice.gov/sites/default/fi ... -p0126.pdf

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Auraelius wrote:If you take the the TITANIC, and remove the letters T, T, and one of the I's, and add the letters C,O,S,P,R, and Y you get CONSPIRACY. oOooOooooOOOooooOOOOOOoooooooo


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Postby Gig em Aggies » Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:57 pm

Gun Manufacturers wrote:
Republic of Keshiland wrote:
We are less free because we have allowed ourselves to become slaves of the gun. Seriously gun supporters would vote against making the cure to cancer free/legal if the opposition was pro gun


Pro gun people would vote against something because their opposition was pro gun? What the fuck are you on about?

he maybe on some "Mistletoe" if you know what I mean.
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Postby Gun Manufacturers » Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:01 pm

Republic of Keshiland wrote:We need an independent commission that is made up of 1 democrat 1 republican 1 libertarian 1 green party 1 liberal independent and 1 conservative independent to rule on the 2nd amendment that must have a unanimous agreement on its interpretation. This is the fairest way. I hope we can all agree on this.


No.
Gun control is like trying to solve drunk driving by making it harder for sober people to own cars.

Any accident you can walk away from is one I can laugh at.

DOJ's interpretation of the 2nd Amendment: http://www.justice.gov/sites/default/fi ... -p0126.pdf

Natapoc wrote:...You should post more in here so I don't seem like the extremist...


Auraelius wrote:If you take the the TITANIC, and remove the letters T, T, and one of the I's, and add the letters C,O,S,P,R, and Y you get CONSPIRACY. oOooOooooOOOooooOOOOOOoooooooo


Maineiacs wrote:Give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and he'll sit in a boat and get drunk all day.


Luw wrote:Politics is like having two handfuls of shit - one that smells bad and one that looks bad - and having to decide which one to put in your mouth.

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Postby Gun Manufacturers » Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:07 pm

Gig em Aggies wrote:
Gun Manufacturers wrote:
Pro gun people would vote against something because their opposition was pro gun? What the fuck are you on about?

he maybe on some "Mistletoe" if you know what I mean.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bdc8U8X_p18
Gun control is like trying to solve drunk driving by making it harder for sober people to own cars.

Any accident you can walk away from is one I can laugh at.

DOJ's interpretation of the 2nd Amendment: http://www.justice.gov/sites/default/fi ... -p0126.pdf

Natapoc wrote:...You should post more in here so I don't seem like the extremist...


Auraelius wrote:If you take the the TITANIC, and remove the letters T, T, and one of the I's, and add the letters C,O,S,P,R, and Y you get CONSPIRACY. oOooOooooOOOooooOOOOOOoooooooo


Maineiacs wrote:Give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and he'll sit in a boat and get drunk all day.


Luw wrote:Politics is like having two handfuls of shit - one that smells bad and one that looks bad - and having to decide which one to put in your mouth.

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Postby Gig em Aggies » Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:09 pm

Gun Manufacturers wrote:
Gig em Aggies wrote:he maybe on some "Mistletoe" if you know what I mean.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bdc8U8X_p18

lol i didn't think about that clip at all until you linked it very nice meme :clap:
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:35 pm

i found this an interesting read about Californians and Big Californian Government. PS even though it did come from Brightbart

Jones Fort manager Patrick Jones suggests that the January 1, 2018, effective date for new ammunition controls in California will be complimented by residents determined to get around “tyrannical” gun controls.
Jones Fort is located in Redding, California.

On December 12, 2017, Breitbart News reported that California’s war on guns would be broadening to a war on ammunition beginning January 1. That translates into a ban on purchasing ammunition outside the state by a requiring that all ammo must be purchased from a licensed California dealer. Moreover, any ammunition ordered online must be sent to a licensed dealer within the state and the buyer then pays a processing fee when he picks it up.

In other words, the supply of ammunition shrinks by state mandate beginning January 1, thereby driving up the cost, and in some cases a processing fee for sales is added, thereby driving the cost even higher.

Pat Jones singled out the law requiring that residents purchase all their ammunition in California, saying, “It’s a tyrannical law and they simply will not do it.”

The Record Searchlight reports Jones’ conviction that Californians will simply buy their ammunition out-of-state at a lower cost, then drive across the state line.

Rich Howell manages Olde West Gun & Loan in Redding and he predicts a similar response to the requirement that AR-15s with “bullet buttons” be registered with the state. He pointed out that there are numerous ways to legally circumvent the registration requirement and he expects California gun owners will do just that.

He said state lawmakers “can pass all the laws they want, and I can guarantee you we are going to find a way around them.
“One of the serious problems of planning against Aggie doctrine is that the Aggies do not read their manuals nor do they feel any obligations to follow their doctrine.”
“The reason that the Aggies does so well in wartime, is that war is chaos, and the Aggies practices chaos on a daily basis.”
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Postby Telconi » Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:40 pm

Gig em Aggies wrote:i found this an interesting read about Californians and Big Californian Government. PS even though it did come from Brightbart

Jones Fort manager Patrick Jones suggests that the January 1, 2018, effective date for new ammunition controls in California will be complimented by residents determined to get around “tyrannical” gun controls.
Jones Fort is located in Redding, California.

On December 12, 2017, Breitbart News reported that California’s war on guns would be broadening to a war on ammunition beginning January 1. That translates into a ban on purchasing ammunition outside the state by a requiring that all ammo must be purchased from a licensed California dealer. Moreover, any ammunition ordered online must be sent to a licensed dealer within the state and the buyer then pays a processing fee when he picks it up.

In other words, the supply of ammunition shrinks by state mandate beginning January 1, thereby driving up the cost, and in some cases a processing fee for sales is added, thereby driving the cost even higher.

Pat Jones singled out the law requiring that residents purchase all their ammunition in California, saying, “It’s a tyrannical law and they simply will not do it.”

The Record Searchlight reports Jones’ conviction that Californians will simply buy their ammunition out-of-state at a lower cost, then drive across the state line.

Rich Howell manages Olde West Gun & Loan in Redding and he predicts a similar response to the requirement that AR-15s with “bullet buttons” be registered with the state. He pointed out that there are numerous ways to legally circumvent the registration requirement and he expects California gun owners will do just that.

He said state lawmakers “can pass all the laws they want, and I can guarantee you we are going to find a way around them.


>Californians are going to circumvent tyrannical garbage.

Am Californian, can confirm.
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-Labor Unions
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ANTI:
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-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

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