Gun Control: Shiny Toy Guns

[Paddy O Fernature]

Honestly, I wonder how much sales have increased on ammunition in guns stores since the passing of that law in border cities....

[Germanic Templars]

Honestly, I wonder how much sales have increased on ammunition in guns stores since the passing of that law in border cities....

What sucks worse than rising prices for ammo? Not having the ammo you need in stock. It is not even a measure against gun control, but dammit there should be a law that makes it a criminal offense to run out of ammo.

[Grinning Dragon]

Honestly, I wonder how much sales have increased on ammunition in guns stores since the passing of that law in border cities....

Good question, but I am sure those stores quietly thank those idiot california legislators for the uptick in revenue.

[Vassenor]

My random thought of the day:

Just last week, Congress was calling on Tide to change the design of the Pods so teenagers would stop eating them. This week, teenagers should determine gun policy.

Because apparently all teenagers are stupid?

[Kernen]

My random thought of the day:

Because apparently all teenagers are stupid?

There's a reason teenagers aren't treated like adults.

[Gig em Aggies]

...That's a thing?

Yes, California has done it. It's a blatant attempt to just make it too expensive for people to do anything involving guns.

TBH I think the government in California are trying to price out all the "poor" people so only the rich, tech companies, and celebs can live there. Anyways I found this nifty site that states "While grabbing the most headlines, gun violence is not limited to mass shootings. Gun fatalities include homicides, accidents, and suicides. There were 38,658 firearm deaths in the United States in 2016. Of those fatalities, 22,938 were suicides, and 14,415 were homicides." so if that were to include deaths in mass shootings that means its 37.29% of all deaths in 2016 involving guns while suicides account for 62.71% source: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/states ... A1#image=1
now for 2017 the data shows that 15,593 people died by guns of those deaths only 346 were in mass shootings which is 2.21% of all gun related deaths last year. only source I could find with good numbers: http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/past-tolls

I could have wrong numbers could fix it if you like.

[Gig em Aggies]

My random thought of the day:

Because apparently all teenagers are stupid?

well yeah teenagers are stupid did you see the tide pod challenge how is that someone you want deciding your future?

[Washington Resistance Army]

My random thought of the day:

Because apparently all teenagers are stupid?

The extremely vast majority are.

[Vassenor]

Because apparently all teenagers are stupid?

well yeah teenagers are stupid did you see the tide pod challenge how is that someone you want deciding your future?

So who is actually getting the survivors to write policy?

Also this whole thing reeks of ad hominem. Rather than attacking what is being called for you attack the people calling for it?

[Kramanica]

well yeah teenagers are stupid did you see the tide pod challenge how is that someone you want deciding your future?

So who is actually getting the survivors to write policy?

Their parents.

[Kernen]

well yeah teenagers are stupid did you see the tide pod challenge how is that someone you want deciding your future?

So who is actually getting the survivors to write policy?

Hopefully nobody. They lack the expertise to direct or write policy.

[Sovaal]

...That's a thing?

Yes, California has done it. It's a blatant attempt to just make it too expensive for people to do anything involving guns.

Does the Californian government just like being a bag of dicks?

[Arlenton]

My random thought of the day:

Because apparently all teenagers are stupid?

The vast majority, it seems.

[Vassenor]

Yes, California has done it. It's a blatant attempt to just make it too expensive for people to do anything involving guns.

Does the Californian government just like being a bag of dicks?

How dare they not consider guns the most important thing in the universe.

[Arlenton]

Does the Californian government just like being a bag of dicks?

How dare they not consider guns the most important thing in the universe.

Guns > most issues California seems to care about.

Didn't they want to limit plastic straws because dumb ass sea turtles?

[Sovaal]

Does the Californian government just like being a bag of dicks?

How dare they not consider guns the most important thing in the universe.

How dare they they not just commit at this point and ban all guns instead of torturing legal gun owners.

But nah I obviously need to find common ground with these people and ‘compromise’.

[Kramanica]

Does the Californian government just like being a bag of dicks?

How dare they not consider guns the most important thing in the universe.

S H A L L

[Washington Resistance Army]

How dare they not consider guns the most important thing in the universe.

How dare they they not just commit at this point and ban all guns instead of torturing legal gun owners.

But nah I obviously need to find common forums with these people and ‘compromise’.

The guy most likely to be their next governor has stated he wants to make the state gun free.

[Grinning Dragon]

My random thought of the day:

Because apparently all teenagers are stupid?

If I say yes, you'll let this go?

[Arlenton]

How dare they they not just commit at this point and ban all guns instead of torturing legal gun owners.

But nah I obviously need to find common forums with these people and ‘compromise’.

The guy most likely to be their next governor has stated he wants to make the state gun free.

I think some Chicago Democrat said something that years ago. They were also blaming the non-shit neighbor states (Wisconsin, Indiana, Iowa, Missouri, Kentucky) for Chicago gun crime.

Thank God I moved out of Illinois and to Texas! Guns everywhere I love it!

[Sovaal]

How dare they they not just commit at this point and ban all guns instead of torturing legal gun owners.

But nah I obviously need to find common forums with these people and ‘compromise’.

The guy most likely to be their next governor has stated he wants to make the state gun free.

Never knew that God was running for California.

[Gig em Aggies]

The guy most likely to be their next governor has stated he wants to make the state gun free.

Never knew that God was running for California.

I think even God stays away from California to liberal for him.

[Dylar]

The guy most likely to be their next governor has stated he wants to make the state gun free.

I think some Chicago Democrat said something that years ago. They were also blaming the non-shit neighbor states (Wisconsin, Indiana, Iowa, Missouri, Kentucky) for Chicago gun crime.

Thank God I moved out of Illinois and to Texas! Guns everywhere I love it!

Well...I mean, Gary, Indiana...or maybe they get their gun problem from Chicago?

[Sir Cumberbun of Gloucester]

Gun Control? Use both hands when shooting...


In all seriousness, it's hilarious how Americans act over this issue. One side thinks guns sprout legs and just kill people on their own. The other thinks every reasonable attempt to ensure a firearm doesn't fall into the wrong hands will lead to a Venezuelan dictatorship.

Look people, Switzerland and Iceland (for some reason) are swimming with guns. How many mass shootings do they have on a regular basis? Practically none. Meanwhile Japan and Australia have made it nearly impossible to own a firearm, and not only do they have low crime rates (and very few mass shootings, if at all) but their citizens enjoy a full banquet of civil and social rights!

So since this is "Nationstates" and not "'Murica-States" let's take a global perspective on this issue. The problem clearly isn't simply the presence of a firearm, nor it some nebulous concept like "Violent video games" or "moral decadence." It's a deep American social problem with violence-at least, that's what I think it is. But really, I don't know-who really does? We might know if the CDC or somebody was allowed to investigate the problem...

And since this thread as well as the first gun control thread are primarily about the American gun culture and the laws trying to control it I see no reason to talk about other countries gun measures unless it directly impacts American Gun legislation or its gun culture.

With all due respect, these kind of problems don't exist in a vacuum,and in our globally connected world it's quite wise to examine other similar nations and see what they have/have not done to address similar issues. Pretending like all pro/anti gun arguments only exist in the United States, or are only relevant to the United States, is incorrect sire.

[Sir Cumberbun of Gloucester]

Gun Control? Use both hands when shooting...


In all seriousness, it's hilarious how Americans act over this issue. One side thinks guns sprout legs and just kill people on their own. The other thinks every reasonable attempt to ensure a firearm doesn't fall into the wrong hands will lead to a Venezuelan dictatorship.

Look people, Switzerland and Iceland (for some reason) are swimming with guns. How many mass shootings do they have on a regular basis? Practically none. Meanwhile Japan and Australia have made it nearly impossible to own a firearm, and not only do they have low crime rates (and very few mass shootings, if at all) but their citizens enjoy a full banquet of civil and social rights!

So since this is "Nationstates" and not "'Murica-States" let's take a global perspective on this issue. The problem clearly isn't simply the presence of a firearm, nor it some nebulous concept like "Violent video games" or "moral decadence." It's a deep American social problem with violence-at least, that's what I think it is. But really, I don't know-who really does? We might know if the CDC or somebody was allowed to investigate the problem...

*Deep social problem where the people that claim to want to lower the causes of violent crime rather just ban guns than to address the source directly.

Not sure what you are getting at. What do you think this root cause (or causes) is/are?