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Yeah, mostly, seems agreeable.
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Dunno/Not sure/Not American and I think that matters
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Nah, you're crazy. Guns should be more restricted.
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Nah, you're crazy. Guns should be less restricted.
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JC Christ CM come back when the meds wear off
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Postby Pimps Inc » Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:51 am

If I were a billionaire, I’d buy Keshiland his own island so he could pass as many gun laws and etc that he wants and see how fast it all collapsed.

Maybe an island in the Caribbean.
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Postby NewLiberalParty » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:03 am

Pimps Inc wrote:If I were a billionaire, I’d buy Keshiland his own island so he could pass as many gun laws and etc that he wants and see how fast it all collapsed.

Maybe an island in the Caribbean.


Devon island would work. Its big and I could start a gun free utopia

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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:05 am

NewLiberalParty wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:If I were a billionaire, I’d buy Keshiland his own island so he could pass as many gun laws and etc that he wants and see how fast it all collapsed.

Maybe an island in the Caribbean.


Devon island would work. Its big and I could start a gun free utopia

My next-door underwater city will gladly import guns to prop up that sweet black market.
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:15 am

Pimps Inc wrote:If I were a billionaire, I’d buy Keshiland his own island so he could pass as many gun laws and etc that he wants and see how fast it all collapsed.

Maybe an island in the Caribbean.


That's why you arm your own secret police force and a national military, to keep order ;)
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:19 am

Northern Davincia wrote:
NewLiberalParty wrote:
Devon island would work. Its big and I could start a gun free utopia

My next-door underwater city will gladly import guns to prop up that sweet black market.

I'd rather just buy a C-130 and airdrop crates of Freedom RodsTM on the island.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:21 am

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Manokan Republic wrote:
People don't choose to be poor and live in bad cities. >.>

They're born there, most of the time and can't get out, or refuse to leave their families behind if they can. You don't choose to be a victim. This is liberal elitism at it's worst.


Also while you are right in that these few cities have most of the crime, it's more like 10% of the cities have 40% of the violent crimes, rather than 99%. As well it's an irrational fear to be afraid of mass shootings over normal murders, as even in these "safe cities" mass shootings are so statistically rare you are definitely more likely to be killed in a normal murder. You are literally more likely to be struck by lightning, as in according to the most extreme estimates, there are about 300 mass shootings a year that kill about 1.6 and injure 5 people, and 500 lightning strikes. Only about 78 mass shootings between 1983 and 2012 killed over 4 people (Page 2), so less than 1% are the mass shooting that kill lots of people. By this figure of mass shooting, that is kill 4 or more people, the figure is that about 2.5 a year occur, so the chances of a true mass murder killing you is even less.

Then we have to talk about cigarettes, which killed 500,000 people a year, and alcohol which causes drunk driving accidents which kills thousands of people, far more people than guns, let alone mass murders, and other drugs and whatnot. Why the focus on one extremely unlikely cause of death when the money could be better spent on other things, even regular murders?


I have litterally wanted alcohol and cigs banned for the longest time. You know there is a think called moving the whole family out of bad areas. I have moved over 6 times and we are not that rich so its doable. Note I have never been in a bad area but I know that if the place I lived because infested with violence and I had a family I would move out ASAP

Ya so you don’t know shit. It’s not just as easy as selling your home, probably most likely the Home that has been in your family for generations. Because most people won’t buy your home if you live in a bad area. And you do know that’s how people get a new home. By selling their current one and buying a new one. That makes it a bit cheaper than just buying a new house out right
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:24 am

Pimps Inc wrote:If I were a billionaire, I’d buy Keshiland his own island so he could pass as many gun laws and etc that he wants and see how fast it all collapsed.

Maybe an island in the Caribbean.

No don't that would be a waste of your money.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:24 am

Gig em Aggies wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:If I were a billionaire, I’d buy Keshiland his own island so he could pass as many gun laws and etc that he wants and see how fast it all collapsed.

Maybe an island in the Caribbean.

No don't that would be a waste of your money.

And probably a waste of human lives as well.

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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:26 am

NewLiberalParty wrote:
Wysten wrote:What if they can't though?


Surely they can find a job as a full time maid for some rich person for a place to stay in the mansion humiliating yes worth it yes

Live in maids don’t exist anymore. Also you can’t move out of the inner cities on a maid salary especially when many don’t even own a car. And most rich people live as far away from the inner cities as possible
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Postby NewLiberalParty » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:30 am

Gig em Aggies wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:If I were a billionaire, I’d buy Keshiland his own island so he could pass as many gun laws and etc that he wants and see how fast it all collapsed.

Maybe an island in the Caribbean.

No don't that would be a waste of your money.


not when my currency becomes the strongest in the world because the money is backed by gold silver and copper

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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:30 am

NewLiberalParty wrote:
Ors Might wrote:If they live in a shitty neighborhood, why would there be any rich people near them?


Cregs list is a thing. Go find a job that no one would ever want to do that has openings. Its called throwing away pride and helping your family.

It has nothing to do with pride. The poor aren’t lazy. They are working poor. Which means they work jobs that pay jackshit. And as someone who grew up poor I really don’t like what you are insinuating
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:31 am

Thermodolia wrote:
NewLiberalParty wrote:
Surely they can find a job as a full time maid for some rich person for a place to stay in the mansion humiliating yes worth it yes

Live in maids don’t exist anymore. Also you can’t move out of the inner cities on a maid salary especially when many don’t even own a car. And most rich people live as far away from the inner cities as possible

Don't ruin the dream, man.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:34 am

NewLiberalParty wrote:
Gig em Aggies wrote:No don't that would be a waste of your money.


not when my currency becomes the strongest in the world because the money is backed by gold silver and copper

Oh dear lord. The gold standard is a meme there’s a reason why it doesn’t exist anymore
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Postby NewLiberalParty » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:35 am

Thermodolia wrote:
NewLiberalParty wrote:
not when my currency becomes the strongest in the world because the money is backed by gold silver and copper

Oh dear lord. The gold standard is a meme there’s a reason why it doesn’t exist anymore


It does not exist because Nixon. The economy inflated thousands of % thanks to leaving the Gold standared

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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:38 am

NewLiberalParty wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Oh dear lord. The gold standard is a meme there’s a reason why it doesn’t exist anymore


It does not exist because Nixon. The economy inflated thousands of % thanks to leaving the Gold standared

Actually it was FDR. He got rid of the gold standard to help the economy during the Great Depression.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:38 am

Thermodolia wrote:
NewLiberalParty wrote:
not when my currency becomes the strongest in the world because the money is backed by gold silver and copper

Oh dear lord. The gold standard is a meme there’s a reason why it doesn’t exist anymore

Yeesh, you are quite the buzzkill today.
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Postby Wysten » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:39 am

Thermodolia wrote:
NewLiberalParty wrote:
It does not exist because Nixon. The economy inflated thousands of % thanks to leaving the Gold standared

Actually it was FDR. He got rid of the gold standard to help the economy during the Great Depression.

And its almost like he extended the depression or something.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:45 am

Northern Davincia wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Oh dear lord. The gold standard is a meme there’s a reason why it doesn’t exist anymore

Yeesh, you are quite the buzzkill today.

That means he's doing it right. NationStates General was not brought into existence for the purpose of mirth and merriment.

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Postby NewLiberalParty » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:47 am

Wysten wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Actually it was FDR. He got rid of the gold standard to help the economy during the Great Depression.

And its almost like he extended the depression or something.


I bet you find Trickle down economics wonderful right? But hey atleast you still get your gun.

He prevented another one from happening by taxing the rich to help the poor. :O shocking it worked

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Postby Wysten » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:48 am

NewLiberalParty wrote:
Wysten wrote:And its almost like he extended the depression or something.


I bet you find Trickle down economics wonderful right? But hey atleast you still get your gun.

He prevented another one from happening by taxing the rich to help the poor. :O shocking it worked

You sure about that?
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:49 am

NewLiberalParty wrote:
Wysten wrote:And its almost like he extended the depression or something.


I bet you find Trickle down economics wonderful right? But hey atleast you still get your gun.

He prevented another one from happening by taxing the rich to help the poor. :O shocking it worked

>hates trickle down economics
>likes the gold standard
>loves FDR even though FDR got rid of the gold standard

Pick one and only one.

Also the New Deal was more than just taxing the rich to help the poor. It was about investment in our poor communities and putting people to work in the CCC.
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:52 am

Wysten wrote:
NewLiberalParty wrote:
I bet you find Trickle down economics wonderful right? But hey atleast you still get your gun.

He prevented another one from happening by taxing the rich to help the poor. :O shocking it worked

You sure about that?

you know its Funny Keshi talks about trickle down economics when his buddy Obama was a master at trickle down economics
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Postby Pimps Inc » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:53 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Gig em Aggies wrote:No don't that would be a waste of your money.

And probably a waste of human lives as well.

It’d be a great example to point to next time a celebrity on Twitter goes “Gun control now! #Browniepoints”
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No way.

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We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

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Postby Wysten » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:53 am

Gig em Aggies wrote:

you know its Funny Keshi talks about trickle down economics when his buddy Obama was a master at economics at all.

Ftfy
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:55 am

Thermodolia wrote:
NewLiberalParty wrote:
Surely they can find a job as a full time maid for some rich person for a place to stay in the mansion humiliating yes worth it yes

Live in maids don’t exist anymore. Also you can’t move out of the inner cities on a maid salary especially when many don’t even own a car. And most rich people live as far away from the inner cities as possible

Sure they do, I call mine my 'ol lady. :rofl:
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