Gun Control: Shiny Toy Guns

[Thermodolia]

first of all if you were self aware you would know the US constitution applies anywhere and every where within the confines of the US only the US Supreme Court, Congress, and the White house can say where the Constitution doesn't apply you don't so tough cheese like we said before you don't get to say which amendments people can or cant use while even on your property despite your convoluted view.

The constitution says what the government can and can't do to you not a private citizen. But please refuse to a security guard or your boss to show them something and then tell me how much of a right you have when your fired or they call 911.

And then I’ll sue them for violating my rights

[Gig em Aggies]

Enjoy never having the internet, or television, or a washing machine. Or a working AC, or literally anything else that requires a worker to come into your home and do something.

Companies don't send armed workers.

but you said you would get them for armed trespassing whether you knew they were armed or not so in effect Telconi is right you would have to do everything on your own w/o help from anyone.

[The New California Republic]

What criticism of my own faults? What on earth are you even talking about? You are talking complete nonsense.

You are the ONLY person I have seen on here use "don't blame the victim" for themselves. Maybe coming up with a counter argument would be better?

That's because you do victim blame a hell of a lot Kesh. Others may not point it out to you, but I most certainly don't have any qualms about pointing it out to you. So yes, just stop blaming the people who are subjected to your butchery of the English language, as if it is somehow bizarrely their fault that your English skills are so bad...

[Kernen]

Enjoy never having the internet, or television, or a washing machine. Or a working AC, or literally anything else that requires a worker to come into your home and do something.

Companies don't send armed workers.

Not true. I was permitted to carry a weapon when I worked as a wetland scientist for energy transmission companies. My work had me in the boonies and had me in the territories of bear, gator, moose, mountain lion, rattlesnake, water moccasin, etc. I encountered a hostile animal about three times a year, and had to use my weapon once.

Part of the deal with having the energy transmission project was permission for surveyors to enter land. Since it was policy to allow certain surveyors to be armed at certain times of the year, ipso facto, the homeowners had to tolerate weapons on their property.

[The New California Republic]

With CC, how would you even know?

Obviously Keshi will stop and frisk everyone he ever meets.

Or get some Stasi goons to do it.

[Thermodolia]

wrong the constitution says both remember the case from Colorado where a baker (private citizen) refused to decorate/bake a cake for a gay couple? well Colorado cited him for violated the constitution while he was in his own shop so if he can get hit with constitutional violations from within the confines of his own business you sure as hell can get hit with constitutional violations from within your own home. plus we already know you suck at law so no matter what you say you wont convince anyone.

That business was PUBLIC private businesses are free to discriminate.

No private business are not allowed to discriminate either. Private clubs on the other hand are.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Obviously Keshi will stop and frisk everyone he ever meets.

Or get some Stasi goons to do it.

They'd be armed, no can do.

[The New California Republic]

Or get some Stasi goons to do it.

They'd be armed, no can do.

Oh yes, I forgot.

[Gig em Aggies]

wrong the constitution says both remember the case from Colorado where a baker (private citizen) refused to decorate/bake a cake for a gay couple? well Colorado cited him for violated the constitution while he was in his own shop so if he can get hit with constitutional violations from within the confines of his own business you sure as hell can get hit with constitutional violations from within your own home. plus we already know you suck at law so no matter what you say you wont convince anyone.

That business was PUBLIC private businesses are free to discriminate.

let me show you a little thing called the

Title II of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 prohibits discrimination because of race, color, religion, or national origin in certain places of public accommodation, such as hotels, restaurants, and places of entertainment. The Department of Justice can bring a lawsuit under Title II when there is reason to believe that a person has engaged in a pattern or practice of discrimination in violation of Title II. The Department can obtain injunctive, but not monetary, relief in such cases. Individuals can also file suit to enforce their rights under Title II and other federal and state statutes may also provide remedies for discrimination in places of public accommodation.

as well as this

Title II of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 -- the federal law which prohibits discrimination by private businesses which are places of public accommodation -- only prevents businesses from refusing service based on race, color, religion, or national origin.

[Telconi]

Companies don't send armed workers.

Not true. I was permitted to carry a weapon when I worked as a wetland scientist for energy transmission companies. My work had me in the boonies and had me in the territories of bear, gator, moose, mountain lion, rattlesnake, water moccasin, etc. I encountered a hostile animal about three times a year, and had to use my weapon once.

Part of the deal with having the energy transmission project was permission for surveyors to enter land. Since it was policy to allow certain surveyors to be armed at certain times of the year, ipso facto, the homeowners had to tolerate weapons on their property.

Telco easements exist as well. We can with notice execute easement rights on private property, and there really isn't anything the property owner can do.

[Gig em Aggies]

They'd be armed, no can do.

Oh yes, I forgot.

so I guess wed have Armless Stasi goons. it would be hard for them to stop and search you w/o arms

[Kernen]

Not true. I was permitted to carry a weapon when I worked as a wetland scientist for energy transmission companies. My work had me in the boonies and had me in the territories of bear, gator, moose, mountain lion, rattlesnake, water moccasin, etc. I encountered a hostile animal about three times a year, and had to use my weapon once.

Part of the deal with having the energy transmission project was permission for surveyors to enter land. Since it was policy to allow certain surveyors to be armed at certain times of the year, ipso facto, the homeowners had to tolerate weapons on their property.

Telco easements exist as well. We can with notice execute easement rights on private property, and there really isn't anything the property owner can do.

Oh yeah. The only time I was told not to carry a weapon was Oklahoma, and that was because the wildlife that was at risk happened to be livestock, and the company was more willing to pay out for Worker's Comp than risk the bad PR of shooting somebody's breeding steer or stallion.

Those telcom easements go all over the place.

[Thermodolia]

That business was PUBLIC private businesses are free to discriminate.

let me show you a little thing called the

Title II of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 prohibits discrimination because of race, color, religion, or national origin in certain places of public accommodation, such as hotels, restaurants, and places of entertainment. The Department of Justice can bring a lawsuit under Title II when there is reason to believe that a person has engaged in a pattern or practice of discrimination in violation of Title II. The Department can obtain injunctive, but not monetary, relief in such cases. Individuals can also file suit to enforce their rights under Title II and other federal and state statutes may also provide remedies for discrimination in places of public accommodation.

as well as this

Title II of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 -- the federal law which prohibits discrimination by private businesses which are places of public accommodation -- only prevents businesses from refusing service based on race, color, religion, or national origin.

However there is a slight loophole. Clubs. If you require all customers to pay a fee for shopping at your establishment you can claim that you are a club and can deny membership to whoever you like

[Gig em Aggies]

Telco easements exist as well. We can with notice execute easement rights on private property, and there really isn't anything the property owner can do.

Oh yeah. The only time I was told not to carry a weapon was Oklahoma, and that was because the wildlife that was at risk happened to be livestock, and the company was more willing to pay out for Worker's Comp than risk the bad PR of shooting somebody's breeding steer or stallion.

could have had a nice burger though with a hint of lead and gun powder seasoning. yum

[Gig em Aggies]

let me show you a little thing called the

Title II of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 prohibits discrimination because of race, color, religion, or national origin in certain places of public accommodation, such as hotels, restaurants, and places of entertainment. The Department of Justice can bring a lawsuit under Title II when there is reason to believe that a person has engaged in a pattern or practice of discrimination in violation of Title II. The Department can obtain injunctive, but not monetary, relief in such cases. Individuals can also file suit to enforce their rights under Title II and other federal and state statutes may also provide remedies for discrimination in places of public accommodation.

as well as this

Title II of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 -- the federal law which prohibits discrimination by private businesses which are places of public accommodation -- only prevents businesses from refusing service based on race, color, religion, or national origin.

However there is a slight loophole. Clubs. If you require all customers to pay a fee for shopping at your establishment you can claim that you are a club and can deny membership to whoever you like

eh I'm not good at finding loopholes wish I was though

[Kernen]

Oh yeah. The only time I was told not to carry a weapon was Oklahoma, and that was because the wildlife that was at risk happened to be livestock, and the company was more willing to pay out for Worker's Comp than risk the bad PR of shooting somebody's breeding steer or stallion.

could have had a nice burger though with a hint of lead and gun powder seasoning. yum

And ten minutes later, the ranch hands would have had a nice human burger with a hint of lead and gunpowder. We mostly stuck to fishing when we were in our home state. The easements always seemed to pass the best fishing spots.

[Republic of Keshiland]

That business was PUBLIC private businesses are free to discriminate.

let me show you a little thing called the

Title II of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 prohibits discrimination because of race, color, religion, or national origin in certain places of public accommodation, such as hotels, restaurants, and places of entertainment. The Department of Justice can bring a lawsuit under Title II when there is reason to believe that a person has engaged in a pattern or practice of discrimination in violation of Title II. The Department can obtain injunctive, but not monetary, relief in such cases. Individuals can also file suit to enforce their rights under Title II and other federal and state statutes may also provide remedies for discrimination in places of public accommodation.

as well as this

Title II of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 -- the federal law which prohibits discrimination by private businesses which are places of public accommodation -- only prevents businesses from refusing service based on race, color, religion, or national origin.

Awesome I can put a sign up saying no gun owners allowed!

[Telconi]

let me show you a little thing called the

Title II of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 prohibits discrimination because of race, color, religion, or national origin in certain places of public accommodation, such as hotels, restaurants, and places of entertainment. The Department of Justice can bring a lawsuit under Title II when there is reason to believe that a person has engaged in a pattern or practice of discrimination in violation of Title II. The Department can obtain injunctive, but not monetary, relief in such cases. Individuals can also file suit to enforce their rights under Title II and other federal and state statutes may also provide remedies for discrimination in places of public accommodation.

as well as this

Title II of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 -- the federal law which prohibits discrimination by private businesses which are places of public accommodation -- only prevents businesses from refusing service based on race, color, religion, or national origin.

Awesome I can put a sign up saying no gun owners allowed!

And literally nobody will care.

[Kernen]

let me show you a little thing called the

Title II of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 prohibits discrimination because of race, color, religion, or national origin in certain places of public accommodation, such as hotels, restaurants, and places of entertainment. The Department of Justice can bring a lawsuit under Title II when there is reason to believe that a person has engaged in a pattern or practice of discrimination in violation of Title II. The Department can obtain injunctive, but not monetary, relief in such cases. Individuals can also file suit to enforce their rights under Title II and other federal and state statutes may also provide remedies for discrimination in places of public accommodation.

as well as this

Title II of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 -- the federal law which prohibits discrimination by private businesses which are places of public accommodation -- only prevents businesses from refusing service based on race, color, religion, or national origin.

Awesome I can put a sign up saying no gun owners allowed!

You could just post No Firearms, but that's subject to other permissions and easements like the telcom or energy transmission easements I pointed out above. In which case, you really can't say No Guns, because there's a contractual or superseding waiver.

Its even worse if you have waterfront property, because regardless of where your property line goes, anything under the high water mark is generally public access easement, guns and all. So somebody could stand ankle deep in the water on your property waving a rifle.

[The New California Republic]

Awesome I can put a sign up saying no gun owners allowed!

Just say "no guns" instead. Saying "no gun owners" targets the person specifically, and is completely unnecessary.

[The New California Republic]

Its even worse if you have waterfront property, because regardless of where your property line goes, anything under the high water mark is generally public access easement, guns and all. So somebody could stand ankle deep in the water on your property waving a rifle.

Well, in some States the guy would get the nasty surprise of an Alligator chomping on his leg...

[Gig em Aggies]

let me show you a little thing called the

Title II of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 prohibits discrimination because of race, color, religion, or national origin in certain places of public accommodation, such as hotels, restaurants, and places of entertainment. The Department of Justice can bring a lawsuit under Title II when there is reason to believe that a person has engaged in a pattern or practice of discrimination in violation of Title II. The Department can obtain injunctive, but not monetary, relief in such cases. Individuals can also file suit to enforce their rights under Title II and other federal and state statutes may also provide remedies for discrimination in places of public accommodation.

as well as this

Title II of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 -- the federal law which prohibits discrimination by private businesses which are places of public accommodation -- only prevents businesses from refusing service based on race, color, religion, or national origin.

Awesome I can put a sign up saying no gun owners allowed!

But then you hit another snag you would have to apply for a business license and run your business out of your home and that's iffy because wherever you move to there will be most likely HOA and they can say as well as the city no businesses can be run out of your home. so there

[Gig em Aggies]

Its even worse if you have waterfront property, because regardless of where your property line goes, anything under the high water mark is generally public access easement, guns and all. So somebody could stand ankle deep in the water on your property waving a rifle.

Well, in some States the guy would get the nasty surprise of an Alligator chomping on his leg...

I'd just go Happy Gilmore on him then take off his head and give him to Chubbs.

[Kernen]

Its even worse if you have waterfront property, because regardless of where your property line goes, anything under the high water mark is generally public access easement, guns and all. So somebody could stand ankle deep in the water on your property waving a rifle.

Well, in some States the guy would get the nasty surprise of an Alligator chomping on his leg...

Thats probably why he's got the rifle.

[Republic of Keshiland]

Awesome I can put a sign up saying no gun owners allowed!

Just say "no guns" instead. Saying "no gun owners" targets the person specifically, and is completely unnecessary.

That's the point I want gun owners to know I or my business does not accept or want them. That way everyone who does not have a gun can feel safe.