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Am I Right?

Yeah, mostly, seems agreeable.
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22%
Dunno/Not sure/Not American and I think that matters
40
6%
Nah, you're crazy. Guns should be more restricted.
187
26%
Nah, you're crazy. Guns should be less restricted.
287
40%
JC Christ CM come back when the meds wear off
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Wysten
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Postby Wysten » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:22 am

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Wysten wrote:Now now Hammer I quite like my liver.

Come on, don't you like to get HAMMERED? :P

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Postby Greater Redosia » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:22 am

Sovaal wrote:
Wysten wrote:Dear God, it's the musket argument.
AGAIN

What’s worse is that some antis have been calling for more gun control on muskets as well.


An assault musket, if you are capable of loading it in less than 2 whole minutes it must be destroyed.
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Infinite Coscotlan
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Postby Infinite Coscotlan » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:22 am

Kernen wrote:
Infinite Coscotlan wrote:>what is Europe

The US doesn't have to be like Europe.

Your clique implied gun control leads to dictatorship. I point you and yours to Europe.
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Hammer Britannia
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:23 am

Infinite Coscotlan wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Heh. I’m half tempted to put the ol’ “Freedom is Slavery” quote here.

The thing is that freedom and rights are always under siege by those who care little for them and for peaceful coexistence. As such they have to be defended, slaves don’t have arms for a reason.

>what is Europe

>what is Eastern Europe
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Postby Sovaal » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:24 am

Infinite Coscotlan wrote:
Kernen wrote:The US doesn't have to be like Europe.

Your clique implied gun control leads to dictatorship. I point you and yours to Europe.

And what you’re suggesting isn’t Europe.
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Wysten
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Postby Wysten » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:24 am

Infinite Coscotlan wrote:
Kernen wrote:The US doesn't have to be like Europe.

Your clique implied gun control leads to dictatorship. I point you and yours to Europe.

Considering the fact that all of Europe has been under some sort of dictatorship in some way shape or form without the populace being able to defend themselves against said dictatorship.
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Postby Kernen » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:24 am

Infinite Coscotlan wrote:
Kernen wrote:The US doesn't have to be like Europe.

Your clique implied gun control leads to dictatorship. I point you and yours to Europe.


History has shown a lot more dictatorships in Europe than in the US.
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Postby Wysten » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:26 am

Hammer Britannia wrote:
Infinite Coscotlan wrote:>what is Europe

>what is Eastern Europe

Puny Capitalist dog uses gun but Stronk Slavs use vodka rocket. (Milk Truck Not included.)
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:26 am

Wysten wrote:
Hammer Britannia wrote:>what is Eastern Europe

Puny Capitalist dog uses gun but Stronk Slavs use vodka rocket. (Milk Truck Not included.)


Dylar wrote:
Wysten wrote:Puny Capitalist dog uses gun but Stronk Slavs use vodka rocket. (Milk Truck Not included.)

Stronk Slavs also use trash can artillery


:( Plz no bully Slavs
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Postby Dylar » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:27 am

Wysten wrote:
Hammer Britannia wrote:>what is Eastern Europe

Puny Capitalist dog uses gun but Stronk Slavs use vodka rocket. (Milk Truck Not included.)

Stronk Slavs also use trash can artillery
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Infinite Coscotlan
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Postby Infinite Coscotlan » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:28 am

Dylar wrote:
Wysten wrote:Puny Capitalist dog uses gun but Stronk Slavs use vodka rocket. (Milk Truck Not included.)

Stronk Slavs also use trash can artillery

Untrue. Not even ironclad wooden logs are stable artillery. I would know.
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Montevento wrote:Overview? I feel cheated and betrayed. I actually did click on every factbook expecting to eventually see an overview.

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Postby Wysten » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:29 am

Infinite Coscotlan wrote:
Dylar wrote:Stronk Slavs also use trash can artillery

Untrue. Not even ironclad wooden logs are stable artillery. I would know.

That joke flew over you like a U-2 in Cuba.
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Postby Sovaal » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:29 am

Dylar wrote:
Wysten wrote:Puny Capitalist dog uses gun but Stronk Slavs use vodka rocket. (Milk Truck Not included.)

Stronk Slavs also use trash can artillery

Stronk Slavs use elite gopnik forces with their special squatting techniques.
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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Infinite Coscotlan » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:31 am

"Our votes must go together with our guns. After all, any vote we shall have, shall have been the product of the gun. The gun which produces the vote should remain its security officer - its guarantor. The people's votes and the people's guns are always inseparable twins." -Robert Mugabe
Do your homework. Do it well. That guy over in Tibet will be observing.

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Ramdom state wrote:I wouldn't trust Infinite Coscotlan with a fork. I would definitely get backstabbed, get no help at all, or something even worse that I can't think of.

Silvedania wrote:I suggest you guys check out Infinite Coscotlan's overview factbook. Very detailed.

Comerciante wrote:They have hidden all their special sauces and stuff behind obscurity. Truly a horrifying nation.

Montevento wrote:Overview? I feel cheated and betrayed. I actually did click on every factbook expecting to eventually see an overview.

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Postby Wysten » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:32 am

Infinite Coscotlan wrote:"Our votes must go together with our guns. After all, any vote we shall have, shall have been the product of the gun. The gun which produces the vote should remain its security officer - its guarantor. The people's votes and the people's guns are always inseparable twins." -Robert Mugabe

This is the same guy who lead a group of fighters who thought the numbers on the sights meant how powerful you want your gun to be.
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:33 am

Infinite Coscotlan wrote:"Our votes must go together with our guns. After all, any vote we shall have, shall have been the product of the gun. The gun which produces the vote should remain its security officer - its guarantor. The people's votes and the people's guns are always inseparable twins." -Robert Mugabe

Saying quotes from the dictator president of Rhodesia Zimbabwe knows doesn't make your position true

"You can get much farther with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone."
-Al Capone

Doesn't make anti-gun control's point stronger
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Postby Dylar » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:33 am

Infinite Coscotlan wrote:
Dylar wrote:Stronk Slavs also use trash can artillery

Untrue. Not even ironclad wooden logs are stable artillery. I would know.

Oh yeah?
St. Albert the Great wrote:"Natural science does not consist in ratifying what others have said, but in seeking the causes of phenomena."
Franko Tildon wrote:Fire washes the skin off the bone and the sin off the soul. It cleans away the dirt. And my momma didn't raise herself no dirty boy.

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Postby Sovaal » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:35 am

Infinite Coscotlan wrote:"Our votes must go together with our guns. After all, any vote we shall have, shall have been the product of the gun. The gun which produces the vote should remain its security officer - its guarantor. The people's votes and the people's guns are always inseparable twins." -Robert Mugabe

Even a bastard hypocrite can be right.
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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:36 am

Infinite Coscotlan wrote:"Our votes must go together with our guns. After all, any vote we shall have, shall have been the product of the gun. The gun which produces the vote should remain its security officer - its guarantor. The people's votes and the people's guns are always inseparable twins." -Robert Mugabe

What is the purpose of this quote? It seems completely misplaced in relation to the rest of the conversation.
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Postby Sovaal » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:36 am

Wysten wrote:
Infinite Coscotlan wrote:"Our votes must go together with our guns. After all, any vote we shall have, shall have been the product of the gun. The gun which produces the vote should remain its security officer - its guarantor. The people's votes and the people's guns are always inseparable twins." -Robert Mugabe

This is the same guy who lead a group of fighters who thought the numbers on the sights meant how powerful you want your gun to be.

Wot.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

”Many forms of government have been tried and will be tried in this world of sin and woe.
No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Infinite Coscotlan » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:36 am

Dylar wrote:
Infinite Coscotlan wrote:Untrue. Not even ironclad wooden logs are stable artillery. I would know.

Oh yeah?

Yeah, that's the opposite of stable.
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Ramdom state wrote:I wouldn't trust Infinite Coscotlan with a fork. I would definitely get backstabbed, get no help at all, or something even worse that I can't think of.

Silvedania wrote:I suggest you guys check out Infinite Coscotlan's overview factbook. Very detailed.

Comerciante wrote:They have hidden all their special sauces and stuff behind obscurity. Truly a horrifying nation.

Montevento wrote:Overview? I feel cheated and betrayed. I actually did click on every factbook expecting to eventually see an overview.

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Postby Kramanica » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:37 am

Infinite Coscotlan wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Heh. Like that would solve the problem. All you’re suggesting is to fuck over legal owners. Of course, I can see why, they’re the ones less likely to shoot back at you.

Legal, illegal, all the same. The spirit of disarmament does not differentiate when implemented. When the illusory freedom of weapons is gone, the real extent of freedom is exposed. Enlightening, and calming.

>get weapons confiscated
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:37 am

Infinite Coscotlan wrote:

Yeah, that's the opposite of stable.

It's. A. Meme
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Postby Dylar » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:37 am

Infinite Coscotlan wrote:

Yeah, that's the opposite of stable.

Never said it had to be stable. Reactor No.4 in Chernobyl wasn't stable, and yet it's still called a nuclear reactor.
St. Albert the Great wrote:"Natural science does not consist in ratifying what others have said, but in seeking the causes of phenomena."
Franko Tildon wrote:Fire washes the skin off the bone and the sin off the soul. It cleans away the dirt. And my momma didn't raise herself no dirty boy.

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Against: gun control, abortion, militant atheism
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Postby Sovaal » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:37 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Infinite Coscotlan wrote:"Our votes must go together with our guns. After all, any vote we shall have, shall have been the product of the gun. The gun which produces the vote should remain its security officer - its guarantor. The people's votes and the people's guns are always inseparable twins." -Robert Mugabe

What is the purpose of this quote? It seems completely misplaced in relation to the rest of the conversation.

Probably trying to make a connection between tin pit dictators and guns right supporters.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

”Many forms of government have been tried and will be tried in this world of sin and woe.
No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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