Gun Control: Shiny Toy Guns

[Sovaal]

Heh. Like that would solve the problem. All you’re suggesting is to fuck over legal owners. Of course, I can see why, they’re the ones less likely to shoot back at you.

Legal, illegal, all the same. The spirit of disarmament does not differentiate when implemented. When the illusory freedom of weapons is gone, the real extent of freedom is exposed. Enlightening, and calming.

Heh. I’m half tempted to put the ol’ “Freedom is Slavery” quote here.

The thing is that freedom and rights are always under siege by those who care little for them and for peaceful coexistence. As such they have to be defended, slaves don’t have arms for a reason.

[Dylar]

Legal, illegal, all the same. The spirit of disarmament does not differentiate when implemented. When the illusory freedom of weapons is gone, the real extent of freedom is exposed. Enlightening, and calming.

Or you could, you know, respect individual freedoms and not screw over people not doing anything wrong?

Now where's the fun in that?

[Greater Gilead]

Well, if the government takes guns, it makes it very hard for the people to fight back against a dictator, which is a good thing, so taking guns isn't a bad idea.

[Hammer Britannia]

Legal, illegal, all the same. The spirit of disarmament does not differentiate when implemented. When the illusory freedom of weapons is gone, the real extent of freedom is exposed. Enlightening, and calming.

Or you could, you know, respect individual freedoms and not screw over people not doing anything wrong?

Well, we need to screw over indivivdual freedoms for the Collective Freedom™

[Greater Gilead]

Or you could, you know, respect individual freedoms and not screw over people not doing anything wrong?

Well, we need to screw over indivivdual freedoms for the Collective Freedom™

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

[Hammer Britannia]

Well, we need to screw over indivivdual freedoms for the Collective Freedom™

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

Yeah, the many

As in, the many men who are starving to death in a gulag

[Dylar]

Well, if the government takes guns, it makes it very hard for the people to fight back against a dictator, which is a good thing, so taking guns isn't a bad idea.

But what if the dictator was tyrannical, and wanted to kill his own people that belong to X ideology/religion/race?

[Ors Might]

Well, if the government takes guns, it makes it very hard for the people to fight back against a dictator, which is a good thing, so taking guns isn't a bad idea.

As a citizen, I would say that it is very much a bad idea.

[Hammer Britannia]

Well, if the government takes guns, it makes it very hard for the people to fight back against a dictator, which is a good thing, so taking guns isn't a bad idea.

What if the Dictator was a genocidal man hater?

[Sovaal]

Well, if the government takes guns, it makes it very hard for the people to fight back against a dictator, which is a good thing, so taking guns isn't a bad idea.

Oh god, an authoritarian. And one with a desecrated American flag no less.

[Sovaal]

Well, we need to screw over indivivdual freedoms for the Collective Freedom™

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

You say that now, but how about when you’re fed to the lions?

That’s the thing about the authoritarians, they never seem to imagine themselves as the ones being fucked over.

[Kernen]

Well, we need to screw over indivivdual freedoms for the Collective Freedom™

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

Not by half. The needs of me will always outweigh the needs of the rest of y'all in my mind.

[Infinite Coscotlan]

Legal, illegal, all the same. The spirit of disarmament does not differentiate when implemented. When the illusory freedom of weapons is gone, the real extent of freedom is exposed. Enlightening, and calming.

Heh. I’m half tempted to put the ol’ “Freedom is Slavery” quote here.

The thing is that freedom and rights are always under siege by those who care little for them and for peaceful coexistence. As such they have to be defended, slaves don’t have arms for a reason.

>what is Europe

[Wysten]

Well, we need to screw over indivivdual freedoms for the Collective Freedom™

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

Mob mentality is a long ass rabbit hole you do no want to go down.

[Spirit of Hope]

Heh. Like that would solve the problem. All you’re suggesting is to fuck over legal owners. Of course, I can see why, they’re the ones less likely to shoot back at you.

Legal, illegal, all the same. The spirit of disarmament does not differentiate when implemented. When the illusory freedom of weapons is gone, the real extent of freedom is exposed. Enlightening, and calming.

Since you are removing a right while having little effect on the underlaying issue, homicide, I don't really see it as enlightening or calming.

Well, we need to screw over indivivdual freedoms for the Collective Freedom™

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

Then people should get to keep firearms. Far more people own firearms and use them legally then are injured or killed by them. Plus getting ride of guns wouldn't stop the homicides, it would just change the method.

[Ors Might]

Heh. I’m half tempted to put the ol’ “Freedom is Slavery” quote here.

The thing is that freedom and rights are always under siege by those who care little for them and for peaceful coexistence. As such they have to be defended, slaves don’t have arms for a reason.

>what is Europe

Shitty?

[Spirit of Hope]

Heh. I’m half tempted to put the ol’ “Freedom is Slavery” quote here.

The thing is that freedom and rights are always under siege by those who care little for them and for peaceful coexistence. As such they have to be defended, slaves don’t have arms for a reason.

>what is Europe

Europeans in a number of countries have the right to own arms without restrictions anywhere near as onerous as you are encouraging.

[Sovaal]

Heh. I’m half tempted to put the ol’ “Freedom is Slavery” quote here.

The thing is that freedom and rights are always under siege by those who care little for them and for peaceful coexistence. As such they have to be defended, slaves don’t have arms for a reason.

>what is Europe

>what is guy being arrested for making a stupid video

Half of Europe can go fuck itself.

And what you’re suggesting is far more restrictive then most European countries have.

[Kernen]

Heh. I’m half tempted to put the ol’ “Freedom is Slavery” quote here.

The thing is that freedom and rights are always under siege by those who care little for them and for peaceful coexistence. As such they have to be defended, slaves don’t have arms for a reason.

>what is Europe

The US doesn't have to be like Europe.

[Tobleste]

Well, if the government takes guns, it makes it very hard for the people to fight back against a dictator, which is a good thing, so taking guns isn't a bad idea.

I think the belief that gun ownership prevents dictatorships is entirely limited to American conservatives. Looking at the rates of gun ownership by country (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimat ... by_country), it doesn't exactly look like a ranking of countries by how democratic they are.

Anyway the whole argument is theoretical. Because America's founding fathers couldn't predict the future, an outdated amendment will prevent any serious gun control which will enrage democrats and state's rights will let blue states pass some small measures that outrage republicans. Mass shootings will continue. There'll be another Las Vegas, another Stoneman Douglas, another Virginia tech, another Orlando, another Columbine and another Sandy Hook. Suicide by guns will continue. Democrats will get angry and try to prevent it and republicans will get angry and try to stop them and the status quo will drag on.

The gun control debate is already over (https://mobile.twitter.com/dpjhodges/st ... 96?lang=en).

[Wysten]

Well, if the government takes guns, it makes it very hard for the people to fight back against a dictator, which is a good thing, so taking guns isn't a bad idea.

I think the belief that gun ownership prevents dictatorships is entirely limited to American conservatives. Looking at the rates of gun ownership by country (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimat ... by_country), it doesn't exactly look like a ranking of countries by how democratic they are.

Anyway the whole argument is theoretical. Because America's founding fathers couldn't predict the future, an outdated amendment will prevent any serious gun control which will enrage democrats and state's rights will let blue states pass some small measures that outrage republicans. Mass shootings will continue. There'll be another Las Vegas, another Stoneman Douglas, another Virginia tech, another Orlando, another Columbine and another Sandy Hook. Suicide by guns will continue. Democrats will get angry and try to prevent it and republicans will get angry and try to stop them and the status quo will drag on.

The gun control debate is already over (https://mobile.twitter.com/dpjhodges/st ... 96?lang=en).

Dear God, it's the musket argument.
AGAIN

[Hammer Britannia]

I think the belief that gun ownership prevents dictatorships is entirely limited to American conservatives. Looking at the rates of gun ownership by country (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimat ... by_country), it doesn't exactly look like a ranking of countries by how democratic they are.

Anyway the whole argument is theoretical. Because America's founding fathers couldn't predict the future, an outdated amendment will prevent any serious gun control which will enrage democrats and state's rights will let blue states pass some small measures that outrage republicans. Mass shootings will continue. There'll be another Las Vegas, another Stoneman Douglas, another Virginia tech, another Orlando, another Columbine and another Sandy Hook. Suicide by guns will continue. Democrats will get angry and try to prevent it and republicans will get angry and try to stop them and the status quo will drag on.

The gun control debate is already over (https://mobile.twitter.com/dpjhodges/st ... 96?lang=en).

Dear God, it's the musket argument.
AGAIN

Take a shot everytime someone makes that false argument

[Wysten]

Dear God, it's the musket argument.
AGAIN

Take a shot everytime someone makes that false argument

Now now Hammer I quite like my liver.

[Sovaal]

I think the belief that gun ownership prevents dictatorships is entirely limited to American conservatives. Looking at the rates of gun ownership by country (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimat ... by_country), it doesn't exactly look like a ranking of countries by how democratic they are.

Anyway the whole argument is theoretical. Because America's founding fathers couldn't predict the future, an outdated amendment will prevent any serious gun control which will enrage democrats and state's rights will let blue states pass some small measures that outrage republicans. Mass shootings will continue. There'll be another Las Vegas, another Stoneman Douglas, another Virginia tech, another Orlando, another Columbine and another Sandy Hook. Suicide by guns will continue. Democrats will get angry and try to prevent it and republicans will get angry and try to stop them and the status quo will drag on.

The gun control debate is already over (https://mobile.twitter.com/dpjhodges/st ... 96?lang=en).

Dear God, it's the musket argument.
AGAIN

What’s worse is that some antis have been calling for more gun control on muskets as well.

[Hammer Britannia]

Take a shot everytime someone makes that false argument

Now now Hammer I quite like my liver.

Come on, don't you like to get HAMMERED?