Gun Control: Shiny Toy Guns

[Kramanica]

Well when said kids wage a campaign of insults and slander then yeah they should be belittled.

Yeah, that sure excuses all the death threats and everything else thrown at survivors of a school shooting!

Every public figure gets death threats. They chose to try and be adults and throw themselves into the public arena. They can deal with the adult consequences.

And some of them weren't even in the same building as the shooter.

Who gives a flappity flying fuck whether or not they were in the same building as the shooter? That's literally as stupid as insinuating a person who lost their parents to a drunk driver shouldn't be outraged at drunk driving because they weren't in the car with their parents when that happened. People they cared about still got fucking murdered by something that could've been prevented with proactive measures but wasn't.

EDIT: Except actually it's worse than that because they were also directly under the threat of death because there was an active fucking shooter!

Really? There were 3,000 students in that school. They were in another fucking building. I doubt they actually knew anyone who died.

[Gig em Aggies]

Yeah, that sure excuses all the death threats and everything else thrown at survivors of a school shooting!

Every public figure gets death threats. They chose to try and be adults and throw themselves into the public arena. They can deal with the adult consequences.

Who gives a flappity flying fuck whether or not they were in the same building as the shooter? That's literally as stupid as insinuating a person who lost their parents to a drunk driver shouldn't be outraged at drunk driving because they weren't in the car with their parents when that happened. People they cared about still got fucking murdered by something that could've been prevented with proactive measures but wasn't.

EDIT: Except actually it's worse than that because they were also directly under the threat of death because there was an active fucking shooter!

Really? There were 3,000 students in that school. They were in another fucking building. I doubt they actually knew anyone who died.

My graduating class in high school was about a quarter of this schools 3,000. Student population and I sure as hell didn't know everyone, heck even the people I did know I didn't know that well, I was too busy on being an actual high school student worrying about getting into college and what type of career I wanted after I got out not peddling "muh emotions are more important then your rights bs"

[Torrocca]

Yeah, that sure excuses all the death threats and everything else thrown at survivors of a school shooting!

Every public figure gets death threats. They chose to try and be adults and throw themselves into the public arena. They can deal with the adult consequences.

Yup, death threats to children that survived a school shooting are sooo good that we should just allow them to be normalized because the kids entered the public arena. :^)

Who gives a flappity flying fuck whether or not they were in the same building as the shooter? That's literally as stupid as insinuating a person who lost their parents to a drunk driver shouldn't be outraged at drunk driving because they weren't in the car with their parents when that happened. People they cared about still got fucking murdered by something that could've been prevented with proactive measures but wasn't.

EDIT: Except actually it's worse than that because they were also directly under the threat of death because there was an active fucking shooter!

Really? There were 3,000 students in that school. They were in another fucking building. I doubt they actually knew anyone who died.

Ah yes, that just miraculously makes it okay.

[Albrenia]

Well, I can't argue people into having sympathy for people touched by school shootings, so I won't try. I'd hope that in a democracy we could be above that but meh.

[Kramanica]

Every public figure gets death threats. They chose to try and be adults and throw themselves into the public arena. They can deal with the adult consequences.

Yup, death threats to children that survived a school shooting are sooo good that we should just allow them to be normalized because the kids entered the public arena. :^)

You're the one who brought up death threats, sport. I was responding to someone who complained about them being belittled. Belittling and death threats are just a wee bit different.

Really? There were 3,000 students in that school. They were in another fucking building. I doubt they actually knew anyone who died.

Ah yes, that just miraculously makes it okay.

[Torrocca]

Every public figure gets death threats. They chose to try and be adults and throw themselves into the public arena. They can deal with the adult consequences.


Really? There were 3,000 students in that school. They were in another fucking building. I doubt they actually knew anyone who died.

My graduating class in high school was about a quarter of this schools 3,000. Student population and I sure as hell didn't know everyone, heck even the people I did know I didn't know that well, I was too busy on being an actual high school student worrying about getting into college and what type of career I wanted after I got out not peddling "muh emotions are more important then your rights bs"

Sounds more like you were too busy being a bit of a machine while everyone else was busy being people and friends to those around them.

Yup, death threats to children that survived a school shooting are sooo good that we should just allow them to be normalized because the kids entered the public arena. :^)

You're the one who brought up death threats, sport. I was responding to someone who complained about them being belittled. Belittling and death threats are just a wee bit different.

You were responding to me, champ. :^)

Ah yes, that just miraculously makes it okay.

It was pretty much implied there, and you know it. :^)))

[Gig em Aggies]

Every public figure gets death threats. They chose to try and be adults and throw themselves into the public arena. They can deal with the adult consequences.

Yup, death threats to children that survived a school shooting are sooo good that we should just allow them to be normalized because the kids entered the public arena. :^)

Really? There were 3,000 students in that school. They were in another fucking building. I doubt they actually knew anyone who died.

Ah yes, that just miraculously makes it okay.

Well that happens all the time to places that are really affected by gun violence such as inner city schools but I don't see those 200,000 people marching for the lives of inner city kids who are threatened almost daily with gun violence from gangs and other kids not in gangs. This country right now is suffering an epidemic of bullshitidous its symptoms include: crying out fictitious theories that the AR is a military murder machine, conveniently forgetting that inner city kids face gun violence daily because it doesn't fit their narrative, and many others.

[Albrenia]

Yup, death threats to children that survived a school shooting are sooo good that we should just allow them to be normalized because the kids entered the public arena. :^)



Ah yes, that just miraculously makes it okay.

Well that happens all the time to places that are really affected by gun violence such as inner city schools but I don't see those 200,000 people marching for the lives of inner city kids who are threatened almost daily with gun violence from gangs and other kids not in gangs. This country right now is suffering an epidemic of bullshitidous its symptoms include: crying out fictitious theories that the AR is a military murder machine, conveniently forgetting that inner city kids face gun violence daily because it doesn't fit their narrative, and many others.

I think we should tackle inner city gun violence too, to be honest. It's not like they are mutually exclusive.

[Torrocca]

Yup, death threats to children that survived a school shooting are sooo good that we should just allow them to be normalized because the kids entered the public arena. :^)



Ah yes, that just miraculously makes it okay.

Well that happens all the time to places that are really affected by gun violence such as inner city schools but I don't see those 200,000 people marching for the lives of inner city kids who are threatened almost daily with gun violence from gangs and other kids not in gangs.

I'm sure you know better what the people marching are really marching for than what the people marching for actually are marching for. :^)

This country right now is suffering an epidemic of bullshitidous its symptoms include: crying out fictitious theories that the AR is a military murder machine,

Seems like thousands of military veterans have been agreeing that it more or less is about the same as an M16.

conveniently forgetting that inner city kids face gun violence daily because it doesn't fit their narrative,

Gonna need some proofs. :^)

[Big Jim P]

Well, I can't argue people into having sympathy for people touched by school shootings, so I won't try. I'd hope that in a democracy we could be above that but meh.

There is a VERY large difference between having sympathy and listening to them spew the drivel they've been coached to spew.

Edit: Let alone allowing that drivel to become policy.

[Wysten]

Well that happens all the time to places that are really affected by gun violence such as inner city schools but I don't see those 200,000 people marching for the lives of inner city kids who are threatened almost daily with gun violence from gangs and other kids not in gangs.

I'm sure you know better what the people marching are really marching for than what the people marching for actually are marching for. :^)

This country right now is suffering an epidemic of bullshitidous its symptoms include: crying out fictitious theories that the AR is a military murder machine,

Seems like thousands of military veterans have been agreeing that it more or less is about the same as an M16.

conveniently forgetting that inner city kids face gun violence daily because it doesn't fit their narrative,

Gonna need some proofs. :^)

Give me numbers on those vets and I don't mean the general on CNN who probably needs a Sgt Maj around him at all times.

[Manokan Republic]

I have sympathy for these people, but when they try and call us child killers and blame us for tragedies, than yes I will take issue with it and respond in kind.

[Albrenia]

Well, I can't argue people into having sympathy for people touched by school shootings, so I won't try. I'd hope that in a democracy we could be above that but meh.

There is a VERY large difference between having sympathy and listening to them spew the drivel they've been coached to spew.

Yeah, but I'm referring to the attitude of 'pfft, it's not like they were actually REALLY in the shooting' bs. Not listening to them is fine, and since many of them are just kids, probably wise to at least take a grain of salt while listening.

[Torrocca]

I'm sure you know better what the people marching are really marching for than what the people marching for actually are marching for. :^)



Seems like thousands of military veterans have been agreeing that it more or less is about the same as an M16.



Gonna need some proofs. :^)

Give me numbers on those vets and I don't mean the general on CNN who probably needs a Sgt Maj around him at all times.

Try here aaand here. (^:

[Torrocca]

Well, I can't argue people into having sympathy for people touched by school shootings, so I won't try. I'd hope that in a democracy we could be above that but meh.

There is a VERY large difference between having sympathy and listening to them spew the drivel they've been coached to spew.

I like how having an opinion on something that's directly affected you is now being coached into speaking out against/for the thing that's directly affected you. :^)

[Gig em Aggies]

My graduating class in high school was about a quarter of this schools 3,000. Student population and I sure as hell didn't know everyone, heck even the people I did know I didn't know that well, I was too busy on being an actual high school student worrying about getting into college and what type of career I wanted after I got out not peddling "muh emotions are more important then your rights bs"

Sounds more like you were too busy being a bit of a machine while everyone else was busy being people and friends to those around them.

You're the one who brought up death threats, sport. I was responding to someone who complained about them being belittled. Belittling and death threats are just a wee bit different.

You were responding to me, champ. :^)

It was pretty much implied there, and you know it. :^)))

Nope it sounds like I didn't give a flying flip about safety since we hardly had anything to worry about plus these kids will have this stigma on them most of the time it will rub off on the wrong way for potential employers or colleges except those in California who could care less about constitutional rights. Plus did you see how students from columbine didn't get all pissy and march to restrict a constitutional right after their school got shot up no some of those who survived grew up and moved on with their lives while others actually did meaningful things such as these people https://www.denverpost.com/2009/04/18/c ... y-are-now/. These teens are dishonor the fallen by rubbing salt in the wounds how many times should they keep retelling how their school mates died before they realize they're doing more harm then good.

[Big Jim P]

I have sympathy for these people, but when they try and call us child killers and blame us for tragedies, than yes I will take issue with it and respond in kind.

Agreed.

[Torrocca]

I have sympathy for these people, but when they try and call us child killers and blame us for tragedies, than yes I will take issue with it and respond in kind.

I pretty sure those kids haven't said that.

But I'm also pretty sure they have received numerous death threats from the right, been called crisis actors among other things numerous times by the right, been slandered as a bald lesbian by a politician on the right, been told to perform CPR on bullet-riddled friends of theirs in school by a politician on the right, and much more.

[Big Jim P]

There is a VERY large difference between having sympathy and listening to them spew the drivel they've been coached to spew.

I like how having an opinion on something that's directly affected you is now being coached into speaking out against/for the thing that's directly affected you. :^)

Thy are being used to push an agenda.

[Kramanica]

My graduating class in high school was about a quarter of this schools 3,000. Student population and I sure as hell didn't know everyone, heck even the people I did know I didn't know that well, I was too busy on being an actual high school student worrying about getting into college and what type of career I wanted after I got out not peddling "muh emotions are more important then your rights bs"

Sounds more like you were too busy being a bit of a machine while everyone else was busy being people and friends to those around them.

You're the one who brought up death threats, sport. I was responding to someone who complained about them being belittled. Belittling and death threats are just a wee bit different.

You were responding to me, champ. :^)

And you threw out a strawman.

Nope.
It was pretty much implied there, and you know it. :^)))

[Big Jim P]

I have sympathy for these people, but when they try and call us child killers and blame us for tragedies, than yes I will take issue with it and respond in kind.

I pretty sure those kids haven't said that.

But I'm also pretty sure they have received numerous death threats from the right, been called crisis actors among other things numerous times by the right, been slandered as a bald lesbian by a politician on the right, been told to perform CPR on bullet-riddled friends of theirs in school by a politician on the right, and much more.

Hogg has said that himself.

[Torrocca]

Sounds more like you were too busy being a bit of a machine while everyone else was busy being people and friends to those around them.



You were responding to me, champ. :^)



It was pretty much implied there, and you know it. :^)))

Nope it sounds like I didn't give a flying flip about safety since we hardly had anything to worry about plus these kids will have this stigma on them most of the time it will rub off on the wrong way for potential employers or colleges except those in California who could care less about constitutional rights. Plus did you see how students from columbine didn't get all pissy and march to restrict a constitutional right after their school got shot up no some of those who survived grew up and moved on with their lives while others actually did meaningful things such as these people https://www.denverpost.com/2009/04/18/c ... y-are-now/. These teens are dishonor the fallen by rubbing salt in the wounds how many times should they keep retelling how their school mates died before they realize they're doing more harm then good.

You do realize the kids from Columbine A) didn't have the means to get their message across the country and the world like the kids from Parkland do today and B) were literally at the time the largest mass school shooting in history, at a time where these sorts of mass-shooting events weren't nearly as common in America, right? Things changed since then.

[Torrocca]

I like how having an opinion on something that's directly affected you is now being coached into speaking out against/for the thing that's directly affected you. :^)

Thy are being used to push an agenda.

People don't speak of their own agency now when it's a point you disagree with, I guess.

I pretty sure those kids haven't said that.

But I'm also pretty sure they have received numerous death threats from the right, been called crisis actors among other things numerous times by the right, been slandered as a bald lesbian by a politician on the right, been told to perform CPR on bullet-riddled friends of theirs in school by a politician on the right, and much more.

Hogg has said that himself.

Proof?

[Gig em Aggies]

I have sympathy for these people, but when they try and call us child killers and blame us for tragedies, than yes I will take issue with it and respond in kind.

I pretty sure those kids haven't said that.

But I'm also pretty sure they have received numerous death threats from the right, been called crisis actors among other things numerous times by the right, been slandered as a bald lesbian by a politician on the right, been told to perform CPR on bullet-riddled friends of theirs in school by a politician on the right, and much more.

Oh and here I was thinking you wanted to save lives my bad. It not like almost adult kids could do something that I don't know would maybe prolong a victims life to the point they could survive but cpr and stopping the bleeding and saving a life that way is for losers, restricting millions of people's rights that won't do anything to stop the next mass shooting is they way to go save someone's life. Bravo good sir bravo

[Wysten]

Give me numbers on those vets and I don't mean the general on CNN who probably needs a Sgt Maj around him at all times.

Try here aaand here. (^:

And all I see is a twitter page with only 14,000 people following which isn't a lot mind you for a group of that size. (^: