Gun Control: Shiny Toy Guns

[Great Minarchistan]

After thinking about it for a while, I can't really think of any constitutional basis for prohibiting people from owning firearms on the basis of simply having a mental illness. Is there an angle I'm missing?

I could only see an argument for it being justified if the person in question is prevented from functioning safely outside of a mental ward but even then it’s questionable as they’re both a minority among the mentally ill and I don’t imagine they’re given guns anyway.

Plus under an Orwellian scenario the government could start ruling off people from owning a gun by having alleged mental illnesses like ADHD (that is extremely overrated anyway).

[Herzegovenia]

“Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary. The destruction of the bourgeois democrats’ influence over the workers, and the enforcement of conditions which will compromise the rule of bourgeois democracy, which is for the moment inevitable, and make it as difficult as possible – these are the main points which the proletariat and therefore the League must keep in mind during and after the approaching uprising.”
-Karl Marx

Progressive Liberals are literally the only people pushing for gun control.

True Marxist-Leninists like me are always pro-gun.
Arm and teach the poor, comrades!

[Wysten]

“Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary. The destruction of the bourgeois democrats’ influence over the workers, and the enforcement of conditions which will compromise the rule of bourgeois democracy, which is for the moment inevitable, and make it as difficult as possible – these are the main points which the proletariat and therefore the League must keep in mind during and after the approaching uprising.”
-Karl Marx

Progressive Liberals are literally the only people pushing for gun control.

True Marxist-Leninists like me are always pro-gun.
Arm and teach the poor, comrades!

Why can't the middle or upper class have guns oh wait you want to steal shit from them by means of the government the whole reason why we have the 2nd in the first place.

[Ors Might]

Not sure how I feel about being allied with Marxist communists. How about we compromise and eat the rich and the big government politicians? Communist-Capitalist alliance anyone?

[Telconi]

Not sure how I feel about being allied with Marxist communists. How about we compromise and eat the rich and the big government politicians? Communist-Capitalist alliance anyone?

Enemy of my enemy is my friend. I'm perfectly comfortable with fighting gun control with reds.

[Ors Might]

Not sure how I feel about being allied with Marxist communists. How about we compromise and eat the rich and the big government politicians? Communist-Capitalist alliance anyone?

Enemy of my enemy is my friend. I'm perfectly comfortable with fighting gun control with reds.

There’s probably been stranger bedmates in history. I wonder what the headlines would be if the communists and free market libertarians marched on Washington for gun rights.

[Telconi]

Enemy of my enemy is my friend. I'm perfectly comfortable with fighting gun control with reds.

There’s probably been stranger bedmates in history. I wonder what the headlines would be if the communists and free market libertarians marched on Washington for gun rights.

Stranger bedmates...

[Ors Might]

There’s probably been stranger bedmates in history. I wonder what the headlines would be if the communists and free market libertarians marched on Washington for gun rights.

Stranger bedmates...

Hey if nothing else, our movement will get some killer marching songs.

[Wysten]

Stranger bedmates...

Hey if nothing else, our movement will get some killer marching songs.

That's only if the facist join in.

[Ors Might]

Hey if nothing else, our movement will get some killer marching songs.

That's only if the facist join in.

The Soviets has some good tunes. Hmm. Are there fascists for the second amendment? This alliance might be a three-way.

[Hurtful Thoughts]

That's only if the facist join in.

The Soviets has some good tunes. Hmm. Are there fascists for the second amendment? This alliance might be a three-way.

By a fascist definition of a true democracy, the interests of the people should (must) be aligned with that of the state (by force).

A fascist approach would bar foriegn nationals within the country from getting firearms.
A communist-socialist approach would financially disarm the upper-class (and prevent them from arming for counter-revolution).

Followed by everyone else.

Both factions only call for mass-armarment in order to sieze power, followed by prompt and swift demilitarization of the populous as they consolidate their idealogical oligarchy.

Liberal democracies, on the other hand... just let the people keep their gun and focus on doing their job with a minimal of scandal (that or have a clever distraction handy).

[Ors Might]

The Soviets has some good tunes. Hmm. Are there fascists for the second amendment? This alliance might be a three-way.

By a fascist definition of a true democracy, the interests of the people should (must) be aligned with that of the state (by force).

A fascist approach would bar foriegn nationals within the country from getting firearms.
A communist-socialist approach would financially disarm the upper-class (and prevent them from arming for counter-revolution).

Followed by everyone else.

Both factions only call for mass-armarment in order to sieze power, followed by prompt and swift demilitarization of the populous as they consolidate their idealogical oligarchy.

Liberal democracies, on the other hand... just let the people keep their gun and focus on doing their job with a minimal of scandal (that or have a clever distraction handy).

Well there goes our spiffy uniforms.

[The New California Republic]

Not sure how I feel about being allied with Marxist communists. How about we compromise and eat the rich and the big government politicians? Communist-Capitalist alliance anyone?

Enemy of my enemy is my friend. I'm perfectly comfortable with fighting gun control with reds.

To be honest, there have been several points in the course of this thread where both sides have been united around this. For example, I consider myself a moderate Socialist, and I have found myself agreeing with posts on this thread by people who are very right-wing.

[Eukrates the Historian]

I am writing a random post so I can have this thread in my view posts section. Just go ahead and skip.

[Gig em Aggies]

I am writing a random post so I can have this thread in my view posts section. Just go ahead and skip.

this sounds kind of like spam if your tagging for a later reply then good but other wise dont post here just to get more posts to your name

[Grinning Dragon]

GOA recently did a study on the likelihood of a prohibited person buying a firearm online, in which IMO, the study disproves the lies that gets espoused by many gun control fascists.

Government Study Proves How Hard It Is to Buy an Illegal Gun Online
Direct link to study

[Chernoslavia]

GOA recently did a study on the likelihood of a prohibited person buying a firearm online, in which IMO, the study disproves the lies that gets espoused by many gun control fascists.

Government Study Proves How Hard It Is to Buy an Illegal Gun Online
Direct link to study

I’ll save these links Incase some anti gunner tries to make that already disproven argument again.

[Gig em Aggies]

GOA recently did a study on the likelihood of a prohibited person buying a firearm online, in which IMO, the study disproves the lies that gets espoused by many gun control fascists.

Government Study Proves How Hard It Is to Buy an Illegal Gun Online
Direct link to study

I’ll save these links Incase some anti gunner tries to make that already disproven argument again.

Funny you should also keep this and ask the Anti-gunners especially the ones in California how their gonna accomplish these things
Link
My favorite and the most laughable part is this, it's like they don't understand how people who break the law don't care about a new law

Proposition 63, beginning on January 1, 2018, implements a clear, mandatory, and enforceable process for the relinquishment of firearms by prohibited criminal offenders. It provides by far the most detailed, comprehensive, and enforceable state law anywhere in the country to proactively ensure that prohibited criminal offenders comply with existing law and relinquish their firearms after conviction. Defendants convicted of firearm-prohibiting crimes, such as felonies, or misdemeanors involving violence, domestic abuse, or illegal weapon use, must provide proof that they sold or transferred their firearms within specified time periods after conviction. Probation officers and courts must verify that the defendant complied with this requirement before final disposition of the defendant’s case and shall take further enforcement action to recover firearms from offenders who fail to do so.

[The Conez Imperium]

Am waiting for the day that ordinary Americans are allowed to own disintegration rifles for "personal protection" and their constitutional right.

The fallout universe allowed Americans to own laser weapons.

[Holy Tedalonia]

Am waiting for the day that ordinary Americans are allowed to own disintegration rifles for "personal protection" and their constitutional right.

The fallout universe allowed Americans to own laser weapons.

That'd bee cool. I'm still waiting for military grade flash grenades.

[Telconi]

Am waiting for the day that ordinary Americans are allowed to own disintegration rifles for "personal protection" and their constitutional right.

The fallout universe allowed Americans to own laser weapons.

Some day... Hopefully soon...

[Washington Resistance Army]

Am waiting for the day that ordinary Americans are allowed to own disintegration rifles for "personal protection" and their constitutional right.

The fallout universe allowed Americans to own laser weapons.

We can already own railguns and things, though obviously they aren't overly useful yet.

[Great Minarchistan]

Am waiting for the day that ordinary Americans are allowed to own disintegration rifles for "personal protection" and their constitutional right.

The fallout universe allowed Americans to own laser weapons.

We can already own railguns and things, though obviously they aren't overly useful yet.

Are cannons still legally allowed?

[Washington Resistance Army]

We can already own railguns and things, though obviously they aren't overly useful yet.

Are cannons still legally allowed?

If they're muzzle loading cannons you don't even need paperwork.

[The New California Republic]

The fallout universe allowed Americans to own laser weapons.

Real lasers are notoriously inefficient, are prone to overheating, and draw large amounts of power. The large battery would need to be in the form of a backpack, which would likely weigh a lot, and would only give a few shots.

I think we will likely see portable Gauss rifles before we see portable laser weapons, but like lasers there are problems with inefficiency. Another problem would be the significant electromagnetic field that a Gauss rifle would generate, so don't wear an expensive wristwatch when using one, it would likely get fried...